Dr Gloom 19837 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 rees-mogg looks like a young pop star among that panel of crusty old public school boys tbf, fucking hell. the face of brexit britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, ewerk said: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-to-cbi-19-november-2018 There's here speech. Now what did she say about an Australian trade deal? The last time I’m doing this for you. Clear as day, from 25 minutes talks about free trade deals incl Australia. As I said last week, if you think she’s lying then fine, but according to her, I am still getting free trade deals under her plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: rees-mogg looks like a young pop star among that panel of crusty old public school boys tbf, fucking hell. the face of brexit britain The worst out of the lot, Peter Lilley. One of the most odious politicians in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: The last time I’m doing this for you. Clear as day, from 25 minutes talks about free trade deals incl Australia. As I said last week, if you think she’s lying then fine, but according to her, I am still getting free trade deals under her plan. Her plan is available for you to see. I want you to tell me how she can do any meaningful trade deal without the ability to change our tariffs. So stop trying to deflect and coming up with the 'I trust May' bullshit, answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: Her plan is available for you to see. I want you to tell me how she can do any meaningful trade deal without the ability to change our tariffs. So stop trying to deflect and coming up with the 'I trust May' bullshit, answer the question. No thanks. You’ve said we won’t get trade deals yet the U.K. Prime Minister has stood up in front of Parliament and the CBI and said we will. That’s good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) But yet you don't have the first clue how we'll negotiate any of these free trade deals? You're a liar. Not just are you a liar but you're happy to go along with a plan that is going to make lots of people's lives worse and all for no tangible benefit. I'm sure your family are proud of you. Edited November 20, 2018 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Get a room FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Menage a trois? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17824 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: No thanks. You’ve said we won’t get trade deals yet the U.K. Prime Minister has stood up in front of Parliament and the CBI and said we will. That’s good enough for me. I think with this revelation it's time CT stopped participating in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, ewerk said: But yet you don't have the first clue how we'll negotiate any of these free trade deals? You're a liar. Not just are you a liar but you're happy to go along with a plan that is going to make lots of people's lives worse and all for no tangible benefit. I'm sure your family are proud of you. Fuck me. Started on the Guineas early have we. You’re just coming across as a tit now. You are the one who claims that Mays deal means no free trade deals. She has publicly stood up in parliament and the CBI and said it does mean free trade deals. Im not sure how that makes me a liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, ewerk said: Menage a trois? Je suis occupé ce soir, désolé. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Fuck me. Started on the Guineas early have we. You’re just coming across as a tit now. You are the one who claims that Mays deal means no free trade deals. She has publicly stood up in parliament and the CBI and said it does mean free trade deals. Im not sure how that makes me a liar I’ve already explained. Technically she’s right but in practice she isn’t. We have an incredibly little wiggle room when it comes to trade deals. Most countries will be interested in what goods they can sell us. When we can’t negotiate our tariffs for those goods we have nothing to offer them. But you know all this because I’ve already told you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 4 hours ago, ewerk said: That's utter namby pamby bollocks. To stand by and let the vilification of ordinary decent people continue is absolute cowardice. I saw a longer version of this the other day (which I can't find now) that shows that people who are anti-immigrant largely haven't got anything of substance behind their views. They've simply accepted the line that has been pushed on them for years. I didn't say they had anything of substance. I said that there are so many of them now, and so little desire amongst them to listen to reason, that I'm struggling to think what we can possibly do about them. Beyond what we've already done, which is point out the realities, and which has not worked, what do you propose? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I didn't say they had anything of substance. I said that there are so many of them now, and so little desire amongst them to listen to reason, that I'm struggling to think what we can possibly do about them. Beyond what we've already done, which is point out the realities, and which has not worked, what do you propose? There are a certain amount who will never listen to reason, there are a large amount who will. In the event of remain how about a media campaign promoting immigration and EU membership, counteract the scare stories from the Express and the Daily Mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30450 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, ewerk said: There are a certain amount who will never listen to reason, there are a large amount who will. In the event of remain how about a media campaign promoting immigration and EU membership, counteract the scare stories from the Express and the Daily Mail? Can’t imagine who you might be thinking of with the former Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 8875 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 23 hours ago, Christmas Tree said: Fuck me. Started on the Guineas early have we. Guinea pigs are quite tasty tbh. They also go well with a pint of Guinness. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9241 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I am not sure why anyone would be so willing to give up trade with Europe for a free trade agreement with Oz. Don't get me wrong, love it here, but how much trade is the UK actually going to get from such an agreement. The same with the US, especially with Donnie (AF, MAGA) Trump in charge, not trading with anyone on a free basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 5 hours ago, RobinRobin said: I am not sure why anyone would be so willing to give up trade with Europe for a free trade agreement with Oz. Don't get me wrong, love it here, but how much trade is the UK actually going to get from such an agreement. The same with the US, especially with Donnie (AF, MAGA) Trump in charge, not trading with anyone on a free basis. This is the question that Brexiters have failed to answer. We've been promised loads of great trade deals around the world but not a single one of them has come up with a plan of who we can sell to and what we can sell them. "Planning". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38804 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Once all the manufacturers have moved their factories to China or wherever, we needn’t worry about these pesky “trade deals”. Can’t trade if you don’t make anything … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Sounds like this means that there will be checks on the border after the transition period. Not good for JIT industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17824 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, ewerk said: Sounds like this means that there will be checks on the border after the transition period. Not good for JIT industries. This is very bad, might appease some of the ERG but should confirm Labour have to vote it down. It's fucking disastrous for the NE. Companies will have no choice but to disinvest over the transition period. Might as well risk sudden death with a chance of survival (revoke A50) rather than a slow prolonged death. Fucking hell man. How the fuck has it come to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renton 17824 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: And this is just the WA. Can you imagine the politics of signing a trade deal? Personally i doubt we'd ever get past the backstop and we'd be truly a vassal state. Ironic. Nice one brexiters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30450 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Well, as they love to claim, everyone knew what they were voting for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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