Monkeys Fist 46619 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 24/04/2025 at 11:46, RobinRobin said: qui custodiet ipsos custodes Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4564 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 21/04/2025 at 16:29, ewerk said: And if people feel more threatened by passing a black man in the street at night should we ban black men from being out at night? Expand I was going to leave this alone but this response has been bugging me. Its obviously a facile comparison as women have had centuries of being victims of oppression and violence. Your example is just an extension of racism that Black people have suffered for generations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34405 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 24/04/2025 at 15:20, spongebob toonpants said: I was going to leave this alone but this response has been bugging me. Its obviously a facile comparison as women have had centuries of being victims of oppression and violence. Your example is just an extension of racism that Black people have suffered for generations Expand Both are prejudices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4564 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 24/04/2025 at 15:30, ewerk said: Both are prejudices. Expand Yes it's that simple. My mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34405 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 24/04/2025 at 16:31, spongebob toonpants said: Yes it's that simple. My mistake Expand Do you believe that CIS women are more at risk from a trans woman than a CIS woman? You haven’t said much on the subject but I know you have a trans child so I’m genuinely interested to hear your views on it, if you wish to share them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 2051 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Has anyone ever wondered if this whole trans court case has come about as Armitage Shanks wanted to sell more toilets and the whole thing has got out of hand? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 46619 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 24/04/2025 at 21:19, RobElliott said: Has anyone ever wondered if this whole trans court case has come about as Armitage Shanks wanted to sell more toilets and the whole thing has got out of hand? Expand All a conspiracy by Big Porcelain? Makes you think… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4564 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 24/04/2025 at 15:20, spongebob toonpants said: And if people feel more threatened by passing a black man in the street at night should we ban black men from being out at night? Expand On 24/04/2025 at 17:36, ewerk said: Do you believe that CIS women are more at risk from a trans woman than a CIS woman? You haven’t said much on the subject but I know you have a trans child so I’m genuinely interested to hear your views on it, if you wish to share them. Expand For me these questions are so reductive as to make discussion pointless. You and others in this thread give the impression that they see this question as being simple with an obvious correct answer. That's obviously fair enough but makes trying to bring any nuance redundant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34405 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Well here’s a thought, maybe pipe down if you’ve nothing to offer other than patronising pot shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52962 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Peyp doyn sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4564 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 25/04/2025 at 13:47, ewerk said: Well here’s a thought, maybe pipe down if you’ve nothing to offer other than patronising pot shots. Expand Not my intention, apologies. Not saying you intend it that way but they almost gotcha questions like "can a man have a penis" so I can't see a way of answering that's helpful Here is a question for you. In this scenario I can understand a Cis woman feeling uncomfortable and threatened, and that she shouldn't have to share a safe place. I also understand the other point of view that they don't feel comfortable using the male toilet. What's the answer I don't know Not a perfect example but I can see both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34405 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I agree that’s there’s no absolutely perfect answer. At what point does a man transition to a woman? When they adopt the pronouns? Begin to dress like a woman? Start hormone therapy? Have the reassignment surgery? I genuinely don’t have the answers which is why I’m happy to hear all views. The example you posted above though is obviously an outlier. I tend to take a utilitarian view on most things in life though and the vast majority of the trans community just want to live their lives in the gender of their ‘choosing’ and aren’t out to cause upset or harm to anyone because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34405 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Also, how are CIS women going to feel about sharing a toilet with a trans man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4564 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 25/04/2025 at 14:52, ewerk said: The example you posted above though is obviously an outlier. Expand Very far from uncommon from my position, which believe me makes having cut and dried opinions very hard Hence my reluctance, and very possibly oversensitivity, to what I perceive as over simplified questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24584 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Well done Canada! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6537 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Yep, a victory that wasn't going to happen until Trump basically guaranteed it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 13022 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 29/04/2025 at 11:56, Rayvin said: Yep, a victory that wasn't going to happen until Trump basically guaranteed it. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52962 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 38200 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 30/04/2025 at 11:37, Gemmill said: Expand Honestly man, what the fuck does it say for parts of this country that STILL vote for cretins like him? Whenever I go on holiday I genuinely look down on any (particularly) southern people unless they prove to me that they're not cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52962 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 30/04/2025 at 11:48, Howmanheyman said: Honestly man, what the fuck does it say for parts of this country that STILL vote for cretins like him? Whenever I go on holiday I genuinely look down on any (particularly) southern people unless they prove to me that they're not cunts. Expand Aye I'm the same. You can write off entire swathes of the country based on them voting in idiots like this one or Steve Baker or Christopher Hope. Bill Cash! Just fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 7578 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) Mark Francois is a fucking parody, man. Whilst it's difficult to deny his French ancestry on the paternal side, it's not pointed out enough that his Mam was an Italian au pair. Yet he has an absolute dislike for anything not British! Edited April 30 by Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16866 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Just passed one of these billboards on my way home. Is it any wonder people end up voting for the shit they vote for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12762 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 30/04/2025 at 12:58, Meenzer said: Just passed one of these billboards on my way home. Is it any wonder people end up voting for the shit they vote for? Expand Who the fuck is asking that question anyway? It makes no sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6537 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I had pride in my country right up until Brexit. So my question back to that rag would be, since when did pride in your country become prejudice alone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4428 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I’ve never had pride in my country, it’s fuck all to do with me, what should I be proud of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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