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Thing is, there are millions of "British" people who could potentially do these jobs but won't be able to in practice because for want of a better expression they're a waste of oxygen. The amount of charvers who are young and basically unemployable who will just be a burden on the state their entire lives. A legacy ultimately from the Thatcher years. The only answer now is immigration. Of course FoM was a much better option but we fucked that up too. 

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12 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Hope against hope that this is a prelude to some sort of much improved deal with the EU but probably not. 

Hopefully. It's mad like, I saw a survey this week where 3 times as many people wanted closer ties with the EU compared with the US. The large majority of people want FoM if you explain it to them. Nows the ideal time you cowardly bastards. 

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3 minutes ago, Renton said:

Hopefully. It's mad like, I saw a survey this week where 3 times as many people wanted closer ties with the EU compared with the US. The large majority of people want FoM if you explain it to them. Nows the ideal time you cowardly bastards. 

 

There was something in the Guardian yesterday, a headline saying Starmer was bigging up "much closer ties", but what he calls that and what we would call it are usually miles apart, so we'll see. 

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1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

There's zero chance that this Labour government will introduce climate change into the curriculum, if that's what that teacher is on about. It would be like a red rag to a bull with the right wing press, and they haven't got the balls for. It. 

They just haven't got balls full stop.

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I have lots of experience with carers and that system through my late brother. 
 

They do thankless tasks a lot of the time, for little pay but…

 

The quality of carers in recent years is, and I mean this absolutely and with no misinterpretation possible, fucking SHITE.

 

When my brother came out of hospital 12 years ago his carers were either retired nurses topping up their pension (which shouldn’t be necessary but that’s another matter) or career carers who were well trained (could administer meds/do a bladder wash etc). 
 

Towards the end of his life it was young people who ended up doing carer work as it was less than the specified hours so they could still pick up their benefits.

 

Im glad we got my brother home and we cared for him at home, but it put some much pressure on my parents because the carers were so terrible.
 

 

So even if loads of carers appear overnight, I’m not sure I would trust my loved ones with them.

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