Rayvin 4964 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 @@Rayvin have you read Postcapitalism by Paul Mason. It's bang up your street - Chapter 1 is called "Neoliberalism is dead". That is your kind of masturbation material. Â Â I haven't but agreed, it sounds pretty fucking hot. I'll have a look for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17781 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 @@Rayvin have you read Postcapitalism by Paul Mason. It's bang up your street - Chapter 1 is called "Neoliberalism is dead". That is your kind of masturbation material. Is Chapter 2 "The MSM squirts its last"? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26347 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 @@Renton @ Rayvin Can we not have the parochial Corbyn / Labour party bickering in this thread instead? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Â Fair point actually. I think it spills into the Trump thread because the issue has become global rather than UK only, but sure, happy to continue in here instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30414 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Caught the end of the utterly dreadful Have I Got News for You? last night. It looks like Jacob Rees-Mogg is going to be the latest horrible Tory cunt who'll be indulged in his soi disant role as everyone's favourite entertaining, upper class eccentric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016   When I seen the news feature on this on BBC last night they described what happened and in the next breath said that police aren't treating this as terror related. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26347 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30414 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Negotiating a cracking deal there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19825 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 probably as much to do with not wanting to get too close to her breath as anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 She looks like the socially awkward kid at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30414 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 John McEnroe's piled the beef on as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38767 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 probably as much to do with not wanting to get too close to her breath as anything   Not to mention the musty reek from her leather strides  John McEnroe's piled the beef on as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26833 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Negotiating a cracking deal there  It's almost like CT was still posting. Scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19825 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Make Britain great again. What next - Jezzer grabbing pussies while sporting a trucker cap emblazoned with his new slogan? Â https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/15/labour-plans-jeremy-corbyn-relaunch-as-a-leftwing-populist?CMP=share_btn_tw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I think it's a good idea, personally. Better than continuing with what they're doing, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34464 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Doesn't sound like a terrible idea. They have to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19825 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I think you're both right. Hard to imagine though isn't it? He's never going to be your typical strong man demagogue brand of populist is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19825 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Musty reek  Eeugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I think you're both right. Hard to imagine though isn't it? He's never going to be your typical strong man demagogue brand of populist is he? Â True enough but it's worth a shot. I'd far rather we had populism of the left and really, the same things people get angry enough about to join the populist right could be co-opted by the left with the exception of immigration. But they could replace that with the rich probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19825 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 If he's to become a true populist, he needs to at least acknowledge that immigration is an issue for the great unwashed. A swift u turn from his metropolitan guardianista elite position would be required ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 If he's to become a true populist, he needs to at least acknowledge that immigration is an issue for the great unwashed. A swift u turn from his metropolitan guardianista elite position would be required ASAP. Â Well, he either needs to do that or convincingly shift the narrative elsewhere. He isn't going to turn around on immigration so the plan must be to hijack the narrative. Â It's doable, it's just unlikely to work since UKIP have already made and entrenched over about a decade their case for anti-immigration populism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17781 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 The only thing he can do to improve labour's chances on an election is resign. That's not a flippant remark, it's a fact. He can't change his lifelong beliefs without appearing to be an unprincipled hypocrite, and the electorate don't support his beliefs. Also, labour under his leadership have been completely incoherent about Brexit and the post-Brexit world. This will be the main issue next election. Labour are fucked, in short. What's most depressing is they can't get their act together against a truly pathetic opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19825 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Well, he either needs to do that or convincingly shift the narrative elsewhere. He isn't going to turn around on immigration so the plan must be to hijack the narrative. Â It's doable, it's just unlikely to work since UKIP have already made and entrenched over about a decade their case for anti-immigration populism. Â that's the issue though. how do you convince millions of people that the brown people they fear so much aren't coming over here to talk their jobs and benefits? corbyn can try to change that narrative, but he's unlikely to be persuasive trying to deliver it from his islington ivory tower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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