Monkeys Fist 38847 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 His security were slower than drivers in Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 5569 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Maybe they thought Kier needed a bit more zhuzh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26492 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 That was his John Prescott moment and he bottled it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 5569 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: That was his John Prescott moment and he bottled it. Thank fuck it wasn't his Blair moment otherwise he'd have flattened the poor fuckers house in the search for WMDs and had him waterboarded in one of the back rooms. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30469 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: steve wraith's consultancy fee was very competitive No expense spent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: the fuck is a people's house? Keir looking fabulous darlings! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3606 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Pointing this out is no way me showing support for Hamas but it's interesting framing from the BBC Isrealis killed but Palestinians died 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38847 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Aye. Neither side are doing their cause any favours with their actions. It’s curious that, if Israel considers itself at war, no one is mentioning that they are now committing war crimes. What an absolute mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17832 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Anorthernsoul said: Keir looking fabulous darlings! He does, and I understand the frustration, but @Rayvin, this is not the way to go. Hope you get a suspended mate. Edited October 10, 2023 by Renton 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 38 minutes ago, Renton said: He does, and I understand the frustration, but @Rayvin, this is not the way to go. Hope you get a suspended mate. Apparently the guy was a PR agitator so it could well have been me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said: Pointing this out is no way me showing support for Hamas but it's interesting framing from the BBC Isrealis killed but Palestinians died nah man, that’s just journalism 101 - you don’t use the same verb twice in quick succession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Apparently the guy was a PR agitator so it could well have been me! wtf was he on about though? We need a people’s house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: nah man, that’s just journalism 101 - you don’t use the same verb twice in quick succession I'll just leave this here then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: I'll just leave this here then.... I really can’t be arsed to get into this shite again. No offence The BBC does not have a pro-Israel bias. Kirsty has always been shite at her job. Zomlot handles the interview with great dignity. Owen Jones is a sanctimonious corbynite. Hope that clears things up Edited October 10, 2023 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 The 'bias' is clear as day. Fair enough though. It was food for thought, nooone really changes their opinions based on internet posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I mean if anyone was in any doubt about BBC’s balance, I literally just watched a harrowing report by Jeremy Bowen where Israeli soldiers, fresh from removing whole families, including women and children, who were butchered in a Hamas attack on a kibbutz near the strip, was asked about whether Israel will commit war crimes by attacking civilians in Gaza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, aimaad22 said: The 'bias' is clear as day. Fair enough though. It was food for thought, nooone really changes their opinions based on internet posts. THERE IS NO BBC BIAS. Jesus wept man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Watch the report yourself if you don’t believe me. it was posted on the bbc live blog at 20:07 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67050350 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Its not about belief mate. This is a decades old problem right and I think its always important to think of this matter with that in mind and not only what's happened recently. If you think my opinion is based on that one BBC interview then let me clarify that it's not. Wont drag the argument (international break or not) as you said you dont want to get into it which is 100% understandable. The media coverage thing irks me only because I think it's important in fuelling the feeling of injustice and hatred the likes of Hamas will use to push people over the edge. One of the interesting things I found about having lived/worked in a number of very different countries/cultures is having your pre-conceived notions challenged and discovering that you indeed grew up with baises. I suppose most do. I do try and make an effort in questioning if my own beliefs are biases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: nah man, that’s just journalism 101 - you don’t use the same verb twice in quick succession They used "launch" twice in quick succession... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: They used "launch" twice in quick succession... did you watch the Jeremy Bowen report? does it suggest to you that there is pro-Israel bias in the BBC’s coverage of the conflict? I think I’m going to have to bow out if this conversation if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: did you watch the Jeremy Bowen report? does it suggest to you that there is pro-Israel bias in the BBC’s coverage of the conflict? I think I’m going to have to bow out if this conversation if so. I didn't tbh, I replied as I was reading through earlier posts. I will do. I'm also just going to leave this for now anyway, it's not the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14072 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 At least we can all agree that this is the MSM at its very finest: 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30469 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 12 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: I really can’t be arsed to get into this shite again. No offence The BBC does not have a pro-Israel bias. Kirsty has always been shite at her job. Zomlot handles the interview with great dignity. Owen Jones is a sanctimonious corbynite. Hope that clears things up Zomlot is spot on in what he says. And I agree with your other points. I think there’s probably bias in that interview but I also think that the BBC has tried its best to be impartial on this. I think aimaad makes a lot of good points too btw. To be honest I’ve refrained from getting involved in talking about it, because it’s so fucking depressing, not to mention so complex and ingrained that I can’t even think of anything remotely approaching a solution. What a tragic waste of life the last few days have been. It must be awful for you, having family members involved. I really hope they all stay safe and that this de-escalates soon. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17832 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alex said: Zomlot is spot on in what he says. And I agree with your other points. I think there’s probably bias in that interview but I also think that the BBC has tried its best to be impartial on this. I think aimaad makes a lot of good points too btw. To be honest I’ve refrained from getting involved in talking about it, because it’s so fucking depressing, not to mention so complex and ingrained that I can’t even think of anything remotely approaching a solution. What a tragic waste of life the last few days have been. It must be awful for you, having family members involved. I really hope they all stay safe and that this de-escalates soon. Feel exactly the same. What with this, Ukraine, and just the general decline of the UK and US (from a polltical perspective), it's depressing. Even before we consider the implications of climate change etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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