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Tbf, Blair didn't help matters with the light touch regulation batton he took on from Thatcher but to suggest it was anything to do with public spending under New Labour is just nonsense - entirely in keeping with most of CT's arguments in other words.

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I agree with pretty much everything Dimpleboy said in the last few pages, and then wondered why the hell he voted UKIP, but to be fair it sort of makes sense. I personally don't see immigration as a problem, even on the scale it is, but that's just a difference of opinion.

 

The Tories economic plan has been utterly dreadful the last 5 years. It'll be an utter disaster if we have to put up with them for another 5 years.

 

The only hope if they do squeak through is that there is a myth that we have to vote Tory because they are the party of "fiscal responsibility" when we all know they are the party of irresponsible ideology. The next five years would hopefully blow that out of the water.

 

That being said, if the polls are correct, then it'll be very hard for them to get a Queen's speech passed. I still suspect they will have a handful more seats than Labour, but Labour will end up forming a minority government. I know the right wing press will cry foul and call it illegitimate, but the problem won't be the outcome. The problem will be the constitution.

 

Regards the SNP, they won't have as much influence as people think in this scenario. There's not going to be a formal deal. But when it comes to mansion taxes and the 50p tax rate and extra NHS funding and anything else seen as progressive, Labour will get SNP support to pass the motion. When it comes to things like austerity and Trident the SNP will vote against them, but they'll get support from the Tories anyway so it won't matter what the SNP say.

 

Labour in minority can conceivably get at least 90% of their manifesto implemented with the SNP having no influence except in support. I'm sure that frightens people because they think Labour are bringing some form of socialism with this manifesto, but it couldn't be much more different to the reality.

 

Not much will change regardless of who is Prime Minister, but at least if it's Ed Miliband the economic plan will be less ideological.

 

Of course I wish everyone was voting Green, but oh well. Maybe next time. ;)

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I agree with pretty much everything Dimpleboy said in the last few pages, and then wondered why the hell he voted UKIP, but to be fair it sort of makes sense. I personally don't see immigration as a problem, even on the scale it is, but that's just a difference of opinion.

 

The Tories economic plan has been utterly dreadful the last 5 years. It'll be an utter disaster if we have to put up with them for another 5 years.

 

The only hope if they do squeak through is that there is a myth that we have to vote Tory because they are the party of "fiscal responsibility" when we all know they are the party of irresponsible ideology. The next five years would hopefully blow that out of the water.

 

That being said, if the polls are correct, then it'll be very hard for them to get a Queen's speech passed. I still suspect they will have a handful more seats than Labour, but Labour will end up forming a minority government. I know the right wing press will cry foul and call it illegitimate, but the problem won't be the outcome. The problem will be the constitution.

 

Regards the SNP, they won't have as much influence as people think in this scenario. There's not going to be a formal deal. But when it comes to mansion taxes and the 50p tax rate and extra NHS funding and anything else seen as progressive, Labour will get SNP support to pass the motion. When it comes to things like austerity and Trident the SNP will vote against them, but they'll get support from the Tories anyway so it won't matter what the SNP say.

 

Labour in minority can conceivably get at least 90% of their manifesto implemented with the SNP having no influence except in support. I'm sure that frightens people because they think Labour are bringing some form of socialism with this manifesto, but it couldn't be much more different to the reality.

 

Not much will change regardless of who is Prime Minister, but at least if it's Ed Miliband the economic plan will be less ideological.

 

Of course I wish everyone was voting Green, but oh well. Maybe next time. ;)

 

I may have been tempted by the Greens down here but the anti nuclear power thing doesnt make sense to me. Good luck today mate, think my cousin's hubby in Innerleithen may know you..not sure if you can count on their vote either though :lol:

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JJ, you talk a lot of sense so it's actually surprising to me you're standing as a Green (though I admire the fact you are doing something). To me, they are one of the most dogmatic parties and their manifesto is batshit crazy. (Would love to go into this more but unfortunately not having access to a keyboard prevents this).

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Slight wobble when I was told my street wasn't on the list at my polling station. :o Took them about 5 minutes of frantically scrabbling around with papers to realise it was on there, just not in alphabetical order.

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I'll vote, it just doesn't seem as important in a safe seat. Almost feels like a small minority elsewhere has the say on the future of the north east.

It doesn't feel like that, it is like that.

 

Think that's why most people are uninterested in politics because their vote doesn't count. That and all the inane sound bites and refusal to discuss politics properly by the politicians.

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It doesn't feel like that, it is like that.

 

Think that's why most people are uninterested in politics because their vote doesn't count. That and all the inane sound bites and refusal to discuss politics properly by the politicians.

When are you running for office?
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It doesn't feel like that, it is like that.

 

Think that's why most people are uninterested in politics because their vote doesn't count. That and all the inane sound bites and refusal to discuss politics properly by the politicians.

 

Times are grave, vote for dave.

 

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When are you running for office?

Jesus, don't fucking encourage him man.

 

He'll turn that thinly veiled dig into a "Well, my friends all said I should stand because I speak common sense." platform

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I agree with pretty much everything Dimpleboy said in the last few pages, and then wondered why the hell he voted UKIP, but to be fair it sort of makes sense. I personally don't see immigration as a problem, even on the scale it is, but that's just a difference of opinion.

 

The Tories economic plan has been utterly dreadful the last 5 years. It'll be an utter disaster if we have to put up with them for another 5 years.

 

The only hope if they do squeak through is that there is a myth that we have to vote Tory because they are the party of "fiscal responsibility" when we all know they are the party of irresponsible ideology. The next five years would hopefully blow that out of the water.

 

That being said, if the polls are correct, then it'll be very hard for them to get a Queen's speech passed. I still suspect they will have a handful more seats than Labour, but Labour will end up forming a minority government. I know the right wing press will cry foul and call it illegitimate, but the problem won't be the outcome. The problem will be the constitution.

 

Regards the SNP, they won't have as much influence as people think in this scenario. There's not going to be a formal deal. But when it comes to mansion taxes and the 50p tax rate and extra NHS funding and anything else seen as progressive, Labour will get SNP support to pass the motion. When it comes to things like austerity and Trident the SNP will vote against them, but they'll get support from the Tories anyway so it won't matter what the SNP say.

 

Labour in minority can conceivably get at least 90% of their manifesto implemented with the SNP having no influence except in support. I'm sure that frightens people because they think Labour are bringing some form of socialism with this manifesto, but it couldn't be much more different to the reality.

 

Not much will change regardless of who is Prime Minister, but at least if it's Ed Miliband the economic plan will be less ideological.

 

Of course I wish everyone was voting Green, but oh well. Maybe next time. ;)

I voted Green, mate. My seat is safe Labour so my little protest against what the Labour Party have become. Though I have been way more impressed with the way Miliband has conducted himself in this campaign than I thought I would be. And surprised at how negative and desperate the Tories have been.

 

The Geens need to get a new leader if they ever want to gain the kind of momentum and coverage Farage managed with ukip. Bennet seems a nice woman but she's been entirely unimpressive, has zero charisma and is Australian. And the party needs electoral reform if they're ever going to progress into the mainstream.

 

Good luck today!

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I voted Green, mate. My seat is safe Labour so my little protest against what the Labour Party have become. Though I have been way more impressed with the way Miliband has conducted himself in this campaign than I thought I would be. And surprised at how negative and desperate the Tories have been.

 

The Geens need to get a new leader if they ever want to gain the kind of momentum and coverage Farage managed with ukip. Bennet seems a nice woman but she's been entirely unimpressive, has zero charisma and is Australian. And the party needs electoral reform if they're ever going to progress into the mainstream.

 

Good luck today!

I don't get the green vote :lol:

 

Absolute bonkers party.

 

Legalise prostitution, legalise membership of terrorist groups etc.

 

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/01/welcome-to-the-bonkers-world-of-the-green-party-manifesto/

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Honestly, I say this with no hesitation, I probably talk more sense and am more politically balanced than everyone on here.

 

That's not being smug, just likely.

 

:spit:

 

Holy shit that's amazing.

 

I don't doubt there are plenty of blinkered people on here, but to try and suggest you're anything but a fucking echo for the party-line is the best joke anybody has ever told ever.

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I don't get the green vote :lol:

 

Absolute bonkers party.

 

Legalise prostitution, legalise membership of terrorist groups etc.

 

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/01/welcome-to-the-bonkers-world-of-the-green-party-manifesto/

It's a protest vote. I don't agree with their entire manifesto, but if more people vote green and the Labour Party take notice and move more to the left then I will be happy.

 

Hilarious comment on the previous page btw. You must have been giggling at the irony when you posted it. No one can be that deluded.

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It's a protest vote. I don't agree with their entire manifesto, but if more people vote green and the Labour Party take notice and move more to the left then I will be happy.

 

Hilarious comment on the previous page btw. You must have been giggling at the irony when you posted it. No one can be that deluded.

When was the last successful far left labour government?

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When was the last successful far left labour government?

:lol:

 

What's that got to do with anything you dolt? Every government can be spun as successful or unsuccessful.

 

But aye, you're balanced...

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I'll vote, it just doesn't seem as important in a safe seat. Almost feels like a small minority elsewhere has the say on the future of the north east.

 

If anything it's more important in this election than previously as winning the popular vote will offer legitimacy to any minority government/lead coalition partner.

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When was the last successful far left labour government?

 

What's that got to do with anything? i'm not asking for a far left party, only for Labour to stop trying too hard to win middle ground voters by following the tories on silly policy promises - like continued austerity.

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If the popular vote wasn't a potential factor in terms of a legitimacy argument this time around, I would probably have voted Green, safe in the knowledge that my seat will always go to Labour anyway.

 

Not that I buy into any of Dave's or the Tory press bullshit about legitimacy which they've dreamt up in the past couple of days in a blind panic at potentially losing.

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