NJS 3978 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Pardew must inspire people to brown nose him no matter how well they know him - just caught that Millen bloke from Palace on SSN saying Pardew has "an outstanding record" as a manager. Maybe Carver is the victim of a master hypnotist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Why in gods name would start with grafters and then hope flair will save the day? I mean, given the unpredictable nature of flair, surely it's wiser to start with the surprise package, then bring on the hard workers later. That way, if you're winning, they can run down the game, if you're drawing or losing they can take advantage of tired legs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaman7 0 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 flair takes advatage of tired legs. grafters track back and keep us in the game. we are a mid table side that can't afford to start 'turn up when you want' flair players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Nothing inspires a flair player to graft more than sitting on the bench watching cloggers who're consistently shit consistently start ahead of them. Imagine being good at football and watching Gouffran offering nothing for 75 minutes before the boss tells you to go on and change the game. It's a fucking nonsense. We're a top ten side that can start a balanced side with both flair and application. Look at all the grafting sides that get relegated, the fans moaning that not only are they going down, but they've gone down without an ounce of joy. You want us to play like that and that baffles me. I want to watch entertaining football when possible and competent football when it's not. I don't think my way guarantees relegation, I think your way guarantees a shit time for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaman7 0 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Well entertaining football isn't possible so you will have to put up with competent football until MA sells us to a billionaire that will flog millions into the club each and every transfer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Why isn't it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaman7 0 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Under MA we won't get a manager that will be able to produce entertaining football and I think deep down we all know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3203 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Under MA we won't get a manager that will be able to produce entertaining football and I think deep down we all know that Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaman7 0 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Ask him that not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I think you're stating your fears as absolute. You must see that it's reasonable to expect a manager that plays a more entertaining style than a man like Pardew does. I would say there are more managers around our level playing better football than him, so the likelihood is that the football is going to improve. It might not, but I think it's a little odd to state we won't get a manager playing entertaining football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaman7 0 Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 What managers? Name 5 that you think that A) Newcastle could attract and that would work Under MA regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5906 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Plus point to Carver for comings out and saying we were shit second half. That's an improvement on Pardew already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 we aren't struggling; we're mid-table we're struggling on the football pitch imo. And on the form of the last few games we won't be mid table for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 What managers? Name 5 that you think that A) Newcastle could attract and that would work Under MA regime GaltierDe Boer Roger Schmidt Howe Karanka Garde Tuchel (according to TooJ anyway) And I don't even have the benefit of a global scouting network, nor peers who could steer me in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 flair takes advatage of tired legs. grafters track back and keep us in the game. we are a mid table side that can't afford to start 'turn up when you want' flair players Clear case of Pardavirus here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 we're struggling on the football pitch imo. And on the form of the last few games we won't be mid table for long. i think we are where we will finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 flair takes advatage of tired legs. grafters track back and keep us in the game. we are a mid table side that can't afford to start 'turn up when you want' flair players Load of shit yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3466 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 we are a mid table side that can't afford to start 'turn up when you want' flair players You're the type of fan the media wants us to be, or thinks we should be. The fans have now been Pardewed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoslingBeast 0 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 What managers? Name 5 that you think that A) Newcastle could attract and that would work Under MA regime As long as Mike Ashley is helped to realize we need a good manager and not a shite one, I see no trouble getting a splendid manager working for us. Its our job as fans to expect that from the fat one, and convince the clueless sack of lard to get us what our club need. If you expect shite thats what Ashley happily will give you, but we dont want that here at Newcastle United so please expect better or leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsaman7 0 Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 It's called being realistic unfortunately. I want a good manager, I really do but I don't think it will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Galtier De Boer Roger Schmidt Howe Karanka Garde Tuchel (according to TooJ anyway) And I don't even have the benefit of a global scouting network, nor peers who could steer me in the right direction. Ashley isn't looking at any of those man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Ashley isn't looking at any of those man It must be fairly bleak in your world. None of us have any idea who Ashley is or isn't looking at, but that wasn't the question I was asked. I was asked who is better than Pardew & would work under Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3466 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 That was the point I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8989 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 That was the point I think. Sorry, what was the point? Salsaman stated there are no managers better than Pardew that would work under Ashley and asked me to come up with 5. I came up with 6 Dr Gloom states we're definitely not talking to any of them. I didn't say we were talking to them, just that those managers are both better than Pardew & would work under Ashley. Nobody knows who Ashley is or isn't talking to, or if he's even had meetings on it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) It must be fairly bleak in your world. None of us have any idea who Ashley is or isn't looking at, but that wasn't the question I was asked. I was asked who is better than Pardew & would work under Ashley. supporting newcastle under ahsley is a bleak world, it's not set up that way for my benefit, it's the reality we have lived with the past decade. do you live elsewhere? i don't agree that any half decent manager would work for the cunt either. happy to be proven wrong here, but i don't see ashley appointing anyone other than someone no one wants. just look at the last few appointments before you get your hopes up. Edited January 2, 2015 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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