ewerk 26786 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Corbyn wants to double paternity leave and increase paternity pay. The man is clinically insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 What's the problem with that like? Am I right in thinking you're a business owner btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20132 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think it's a great idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's a nightmare for small businesses. If you have a woman going off on maternity for 9-12 months you can get maternity cover in. If you have a father going off for a month it's impossible to get someone half decent in and trained to provide cover for a month. Two weeks is just about manageable but a month is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Think of the business owners man, not the peasants Edited May 12, 2017 by TheGingerQuiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's about being practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Practical for the business yeah? Not the zombie sleep-deprived chap with the new-born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Dunno like, I reckon our business could handle it and we're cut to the bone in terms of the number of people we have. Then again we cross train staff religiously to ensure that we're prepared for stuff like that, maybe other small businesses aren't as well organised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Go fuck yourself, Rayvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Practical for the business yeah? Not the zombie sleep-deprived chap with the new-born. If you're getting up with the baby during the night then you aren't a proper man anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: Go fuck yourself, Rayvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 At the end of the day, businesses would adapt because they'd have to. Same as they're having to with Brexit. Those that went under, in a free market system, would be replaced. He could implement it gradually anyway, organisations would have time to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Dunno like, I reckon our business could handle it and we're cut to the bone in terms of the number of people we have. Then again we cross train staff religiously to ensure that we're prepared for stuff like that, maybe other small businesses aren't as well organised. If a business can't sort paternity cover out with several months notice how would they cope if the same bloke went on sudden sick leave? Can't cope don't have a business imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 The wisdom of a grown man who still lives with his parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 9 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: There is something refreshing about a counter argument to austerity. Shame it wasn't made in the last election It's the most refreshing political stuff in years (IF THE FIGURES ADD UP). If they do, he'll get my vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18030 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's a decent manifesto in the main although goes too far on issues like education which just gives the Tories ammunition. Problem still is the man who is delivering it. It's too late for him. People won't have faith in his ability to competently enact these pledges. A more evolutionary manifesto with the right man in charge with the full support of the PLP and labour would have had a chance. Now it's just a question of how much they will lose by, against feeble Tory opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18030 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Labour are like Sunderland trying to win the last few matches whilst already relegated..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3999 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I see the cunt's in the NE today - targetting "patriots" - really nauseating stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4003 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, Renton said: It's a decent manifesto in the main although goes too far on issues like education which just gives the Tories ammunition. Problem still is the man who is delivering it. It's too late for him. People won't have faith in his ability to competently enact these pledges. A more evolutionary manifesto with the right man in charge with the full support of the PLP and labour would have had a chance. Now it's just a question of how much they will lose by, against feeble Tory opposition. Remember this this is an election and Corbyn is now going to have 3-4 weeks doing what he likes best, campaigning. He's also now got a very popular set of policies to shout about. Add to that the heightened tv coverage of him selling this message. where as the Tories (so far) only have a message which seems very dull in comparison. 2 weeks ago I would have bet my house on a Tory landslide. I wouldn't bet on it now. i would urge everyone to watch Barry Gardiners interview on Newsnight last night. If the rest of Labour follow his lead they'll win this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30758 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Not even trying to be subtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20132 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 They'll win this they haven't a chance man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) The press are being brutal over this. The Times, The Heil, The Torygraph, The Sun all coming out against the manifesto. Another thing I don't get here - why? No one employed by those papers actually writing the content will be in the top 5% of earners. I appreciate they're paid to write utter bollocks as directed from on high, but they're actively undermining their own interests. At least the people reading what they write can claim to have been misled. Edited May 12, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20132 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 A lot of the hacks there will be on over 80k so perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20132 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) And £80k in London doesn't make you rich btw. Comfortable but not rich. I think the top 5% paying more combined with no VAT or NI increases or tax rises for the poor, is spot on. A lot of Tory voters don't think that way though, the selfish twats. Edited May 12, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 They leave their own politics at the door and write in whatever direction their press baron owner directs them. It's ridiculous how much influence so few people have on so much of the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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