Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Did more harm to Muslims than Tommy Robinson and more blood on his hands than Fred West. Interested to see if we at least agree on something… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3984 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Don't believe in knighthoods for anyone. Most people on here admire him but I'll never forgive him for failing to undo any of Thatcher's crimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14624 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) It only matters if you attach any importance to honours. Blair fits in well with a lot of the other utter cunts enobled over the past centuries but honestly, why would anyone give a fuck? They're fuckin worthless due to those who suggest the recipients and those who in some cases have bought and paid for them Danny Boyle (a genius in my book) turned a gong down after London 2012. He said he didn't think he was better than anyone else. That's precisely where I sit. I'm no better than the next person. But I am better person than Prince fuckin Andrew, which sort of illustrates the point... Edited January 5, 2022 by PaddockLad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Started the privatisation of the NHS and committed the worst crime of the last hundred years and he’s admired? Maybe it’s not so surprising that I’m not getting along with most of you… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34598 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 You've also put on record your admiration for Thatcher iirc? IT'S NOT ME, IT'S YOU! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: It only matters if you attach any importance to honours. Blair fits in well with a lot of the other utter cunts enobled over the past centuries but honestly, why would anyone give a fuck? They're fuckin worthless due to those who suggest the recipients and those who in some cases have bought and paid for them Danny Boyle (a genius in my book) turned a gong down after London 2012. He said he didn't think he was better than anyone else. That's precisely where I sit. I'm no better than the next person. But I am better person than Prince fuckin Andrew, which sort of illustrates the point... I wouldn’t accept one either (I’d like to think so, anyway) i don’t wish to abolish the monarchy though. The faff of electing some nightmare every four years is worse than wheeling out a horsey posh figurehead when needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Asprilla said: the worst crime of the last hundred years I feel as if I'm falling for some kind of Godwin's Law boobytrap by even going near this one, but... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, Gemmill said: You've also put on record your admiration for Thatcher iirc? IT'S NOT ME, IT'S YOU! No I haven’t, I just agree with her point about society. 👍🏼 she sold far too many national assets for my liking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30450 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 This is some of the most controversial stuff I’ve ever seen 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, Meenzer said: I feel as if I'm falling for some kind of Godwin's Law boobytrap by even going near this one, but... I meant by a Brit. Yes Hitler was worse 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38804 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Alex said: This is some of the most controversial stuff I’ve ever seen What about that James Corden, how hilarious is he, eh? Laugh? I nearly fucked me mam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19837 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 take iraq out of the picture and blair did a decent job as PM. if i were dishing out honours, i'd find it hard to ignore iraq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38804 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: take iraq out of the picture He tried. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: if i were dishing out honours, i'd find it hard to ignore iraq You'd be caught between iraq and a hard place. I'll get me coat. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Sat next to CT at SJP in the 80s IIRC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 The New Statesman did a decent podcast about him over Christmas. The general feeling is he did a lot of good things but then Iraq... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: The New Statesman did a decent podcast about him over Christmas. The general feeling is he did a lot of good things but then Iraq... You could say the same about Jimmy Savile to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38804 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17824 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Asprilla said: No I haven’t, I just agree with her point about society. 👍🏼 she sold far too many national assets for my liking She also created the internal market of the NHS, not Blair. Anybody living in this country witnessed massive investment in the NHS and education under Blair. He was a pragmatist, that level of increased service required private involvement, simple as that. I say this from 20 years service in the NHS and my extended family being heavy users of it. NJS is an idealist in this regard I think, who'd presumably prefer poorer service provision to keep the NHS "pure". I don't forgive him for Iraq but doubt any Conservative administration would have done different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Renton said: She also created the internal market of the NHS, not Blair. Anybody living in this country witnessed massive investment in the NHS and education under Blair. He was a pragmatist, that level of increased service required private involvement, simple as that. I say this from 20 years service in the NHS and my extended family being heavy users of it. NJS is an idealist in this regard I think, who'd presumably prefer poorer service provision to keep the NHS "pure". I don't forgive him for Iraq but doubt any Conservative administration would have done different. I believe it was a war crime. Utterly pointless and catastrophic in terms of lives lost. With hindsight it’s hard to see any political benefit either of joining the war. Obama certainly didn’t appear to feel obliged to treat Britain with any gratitude, Trump possibly did and now Biden doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Raised a lot for charity, blew it by being a paedo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38804 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Have you really just explained to me why Jimmy Saville was a wrong’un ? Fuck me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3984 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, Renton said: She also created the internal market of the NHS, not Blair. Anybody living in this country witnessed massive investment in the NHS and education under Blair. He was a pragmatist, that level of increased service required private involvement, simple as that. I say this from 20 years service in the NHS and my extended family being heavy users of it. NJS is an idealist in this regard I think, who'd presumably prefer poorer service provision to keep the NHS "pure". I don't forgive him for Iraq but doubt any Conservative administration would have done different. Not purity, just think private money with a cost has no place in public services. The investment was fine but should have been funded differently. I'd like to see a comparison of the long term costs of pfi versus public borrowing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30450 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Savile was another Thatcher fan boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Alex said: Savile was another Thatcher fan boy And yet they both did less harm than Blair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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