toonotl 3745 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago It’s maybe fair to say he didn’t do enough to establish a body of work one way or another. But that in itself makes him seem like a bit of a fraud when he keeps taking a position that is in essence about the long term and doesn’t stay for long enough to be judged based on the tangible outcomes of his performance. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19916 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Yeah the whole point of this sort of job is to create long term football policy and procedures so that you don’t end up being like Man Utd with no long term vision ie sacking every useless bastard they appoint after 18 months and having to pay off all their staff but being lumbered with the eye wateringly expensive useless bastards that they’ve signed…. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5626 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 7 hours ago, Rayvin said: Am I alone in thinking that for all he's a bastard, he was actually pretty good? The idea of a sporting director or a DoF is that its meant to be a long term, continuity focussed job where you stay in position for a long time. Instead he fucked us off after 18 months and then lasted 5 months at man u. Its impossible to say that he did a good job at either because he wasn't around long enough to have done one, but by virtue of that I reckon its fair to say he did a bad job or a main facet of his position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2526 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Fucked over Brighton and us and then got sacked by Jim Rat King. I assume his reputation has been torched by his own behaviour, but if I were the FA I would view him as a short term appointment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38085 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Kitman said: Fucked over Brighton and us and then got sacked by Jim Rat King. I assume his reputation has been torched by his own behaviour, but if I were the FA I would view him as a short term appointment He’s got a very questionable record at the FA iirc. Wasn’t he embroiled in some scandal there previously? That’s along with Allardyce being his recommendation for the England job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34600 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago The FA job will be much more low key for him. No one had heard of him when he last did the same role and it'll be the same again. With England the entire responsibility for the senior teams' performances belong to the managers so he can sit quietly being a rat in the background. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2526 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 59 minutes ago, Alex said: He’s got a very questionable record at the FA iirc. Wasn’t he embroiled in some scandal there previously? That’s along with Allardyce being his recommendation for the England job Allardyce that must have been embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 12831 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 11 hours ago, Rayvin said: Am I alone in thinking that for all he's a bastard, he was actually pretty good? Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 12400 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Alex said: He’s got a very questionable record at the FA iirc. Wasn’t he embroiled in some scandal there previously? That’s along with Allardyce being his recommendation for the England job He was very involved in the carry on with that Mark Sampson, alleged wrongun manager of the womens team a few years back. Can't be arsed to google the details but I'm going to say that Ashworth is a wrongun too All the craic here https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/sep/23/fa-dan-ashworth-mark-sampson Edited 11 hours ago by Sonatine 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6594 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Maybe I'm misremembering what he was responsible for then. I thought he was pretty much the man behind most of our first team buys. If he wasn't, then yes my view of him changes quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34600 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Maybe I'm misremembering what he was responsible for then. I thought he was pretty much the man behind most of our first team buys. If he wasn't, then yes my view of him changes quite a bit. Nah, iirc he made a point of saying that transfers weren't his sole remit and he was at the 'centre of the wheel' connecting all departments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10796 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I see Ineos are outperforming Ashley as well with Amorim and others having to make sure staff will be able to watch their final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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