The Fish 9013 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, toonotl said: Here's the corresponding games for last season at 10.6. This season is 13.8. So definitely much less intensity in the press even when allowing for the difficulty of the opposition. What was our overall PPDA last season? I can't seem to track it down. Our average PpDA last season was 9.19 (here ) Where'd you get those stats from? I have this; Liverpool is anomalous because of Pope's red card last season. But in all games we're allowing more passes per defensive action than our average last season. I reckon part of that is our form, part of that is the quality of opposition, part of it will be teams working us out a bit too. 1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said: Possibly. One other thing I will say is that we aren’t looking after the ball as much as did in the midfield area. Everything is about going for the kill (which id much rather do than pedestrian football) but we need to be cleverer in possession with this many games. I wonder if this comes back to confidence? Looking for that killer ball straight away rather than trusting each other to pass the ball around? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4892 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, The Fish said: Our average PpDA last season was 9.19 (here ) Where'd you get those stats from? I have this; Liverpool is anomalous because of Pope's red card last season. But in all games we're allowing more passes per defensive action than our average last season. I reckon part of that is our form, part of that is the quality of opposition, part of it will be teams working us out a bit too. I wonder if this comes back to confidence? Looking for that killer ball straight away rather than trusting each other to pass the ball around? i think confidence is a factor. I suspect we were over confident after dispatching villa (and soaking up the adulation). Then it’s been massively dented by the Liverpool game. Back down to earth and a reminder we aren’t as good as we thought we were (both players and fans). I once got players player of the year for my Saturday team. At the start of the next season I swanned around the pitch thinking I don’t need to try that hard. I got dropped after about 4 games. 😂 I think there was an element of this. Our players aren’t the calibre of liverpool or Man City etc so we need to work our balls off and know our limitations. Edited September 20, 2023 by Holden McGroin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 There are so many factors, confidence, new players, new contracts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4892 Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Aye. Upto Howe and Mad dog to get us going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 On 19/09/2023 at 11:04, The Fish said: Goals scored vs Expected goals. You don't want to be below the line for a long time (failing to put away your chances), or to the bottom left corner (not making chances or scoring them.) Goals conceded vs chances given up. You don't want to be above the line for a long time (conceding a lot of chances), or to the top right corner (giving up lots of chances and conceding from them) You want to be bottom right, creating lots and conceding few chances. You don't want to be top left. We're not doing great at the minute. Not creating much and giving up quite a few. Thoroughly tempted to update based off the Sheffield result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16729 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, The Fish said: Thoroughly tempted to update based off the Sheffield result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34615 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 8 scored vs 3.94 xG according to MOTD2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4892 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 We could have had 11. Wilson (2) and Gordon missed absolute sitters 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19838 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: We could have had 11. Wilson (2) and Gordon missed absolute sitters don't forget the blatant pen that VAR ignored because we were already three up and we're not a side which wears red from the north west 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 2 hours ago, The Fish said: Thoroughly tempted to update based off the Sheffield result. Idk how you're resisting the urge tbh, whenever I maintain this sort of shit the second any new data point comes in I have to update it, followed by excitedly staring at it for a bit. Then I undo it and allow myself to relive the moment. I wish I was joking. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: Idk how you're resisting the urge tbh, whenever I maintain this sort of shit the second any new data point comes in I have to update it, followed by excitedly staring at it for a bit. Then I undo it and allow myself to relive the moment. I wish I was joking. I have no will power 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Beautiful. Brings a tear to the eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16729 Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Fish said: I have no will power 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Wait, I spaffed my load too too early, Hang on two seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 What changed in this one though? Was the other one post-Brentford only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: What changed in this one though? Was the other one post-Brentford only? No, the table hadn't been properly sorted, so the numbers weren't yet accurate. For example, Luton was way off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26446 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 It's fucking amateur hour over there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6876 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Probably a rounding error (the get out for all stats nonces) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19838 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 In a shock twist, a certain doctor previously known for his hoverboard prowess and DJing skills has emerged as Toontastic's new stats guru. His CV boasted about years of experience moderating internet message boards but the board's resident stat man Fish's reputation is in tatters after a succession of botched number crunching. "Accuracy is a prerequisite. We don't insist on being first, but we do insist on being right", said a furious so-called accountant. A veteran contributor based on the South Coast blamed the mistakes on the news that Fish's wife is expecting a new baby. "Next thing you know, he'll be kissing his club badge", he complained. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 This wasn't a deliverable, this was a bonus, a boon, a treat. You best not get things twisted. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38822 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Can I just draw attention to the thread title- “ Generic NUFC “CHAT” not “ Generic NUFC STAT”. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Can I just draw attention to the thread title- “ Generic NUFC “CHAT” not “ Generic NUFC STAT”. You know a good way to draw attention to something? Graphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, The Fish said: You know a good way to draw attention to something? Graphs. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: Hey, it got my attention, got your point across succinctly too. Now what you've got to ask yourself is this; do you want me to throw three graphs up in here, orrrr do you want me to go all loquacious again? Statty Dave, or Chatty Dave. It's entirely up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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