Monkeys Fist 50753 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 21 minutes ago, Gemmill said: https://archive.ph/RW2fC Seaton Burn the frontrunner for the new training ground. Just along the road from yours truly. I'll probably be granted press access. Easy question at the end of that article. This week’s puzzler… Nick Woltemade became only the second Newcastle player with a surname beginning in ‘W’ to score for the club in Europe. Can you name the other player and the match in which they did so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 9909 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) Steve Watson? Errr.. a guess at Antwerp. does the Anglo-Saxon cup count? Edited October 2 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 50753 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 38 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: Steve Watson? Errr.. a guess at Antwerp. Correct, I’d say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15605 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Canny Douglas article on Suds and data http://archive.today/oiv43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) Not big fans of the "all I need to know is what my eyes are telling me" approach to football. Edited November 29 by Gemmill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17238 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Sounds like a good excuse for why it takes them FUCKING AGES to do anything tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 The article SPECIFICALLY talks about how this is designed to do the opposite, and speed things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 17238 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 5 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The article SPECIFICALLY talks about how this is designed to do the opposite, and speed things up. I’d love to be positive but with our track record, Suds will be analysing data for some other cunt in 6 month anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22508 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 54 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Not big fans of the "all I need to know is what my eyes are telling me" approach to football. So we weren't doing any of this before err, "Suds" turned up then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43949 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 49 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Not big fans of the "all I need to know is what my eyes are telling me" approach to football. I'd rather blow smoke up their arse when we can see the fruits of their infatuation, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 minute ago, PaddockLad said: So we weren't doing any of this before err, "Suds" turned up then? We've been data driven for a while now - Ashworth was the one who engaged the lad I've mentioned on here previously to build all of the dashboards and stuff for each player - it's actually Bruce Rioch's son. I worked with him for a bit in my last job cos we got him in to do some data stuff there too. Prior to him getting involved we had fuck all and we're miles behind most other PL clubs. But having the data is one thing, having the people that can properly analyse and use it to make decisions is another. We've obviously had analysts etc at the club, but by the sound of it this lad and the team he's building are a big step up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43949 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, Gemmill said: We've been data driven for a while now - Ashworth was the one who engaged the lad I've mentioned on here previously to build all of the dashboards and stuff for each player - it's actually Bruce Rioch's son. I worked with him for a bit in my last job cos we got him in to do some data stuff there too. Prior to him getting involved we had fuck all and we're miles behind most other PL clubs. But having the data is one thing, having the people that can properly analyse and use it to make decisions is another. We've obviously had analysts etc at the club, but by the sound of it this lad and the team he's building are a big step up. Let's hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 minute ago, Howmanheyman said: I'd rather blow smoke up their arse when we can see the fruits of their infatuation, personally. To be clear, I was taking the piss out of Toonpack posting an article which directly criticised his "all I need are the eyes in my head" approach to football analysis. The fruits of their infatuation are there to see at clubs like Brighton though. It's not like this stuff is unproven. We just need our own version, and that's what we're building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 1141 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 which thread is the england squad in? i thought livramento was injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39251 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Quote One innovation around data has seen him develop an algorithm that assesses performances relative to the strength of the league they are playing in. Using data and artificial intelligence, he developed a “tax rate” for leagues all over the world, which is then used in a mathematical equation that works out whether their performances are impressive enough to warrant a conversation about them becoming a transfer target. It goes like this: player A scores 20 goals in the Belgian league and has physical data that stands out. The equation developed by Gopaladesikan multiplies those numbers by the league’s “tax rate” adjusted by the team’s relative strength in the league. If the numbers still stand out, it feels like a green flag for the scouting team. Wow, so you’re telling me that 20 goals in the Premier League is better than 20 goals in the Azerbaijani second division? This is some revolutionary shit. What were we doing before? Running our models through an air fryer? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22508 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: We've been data driven for a while now - Ashworth was the one who engaged the lad I've mentioned on here previously to build all of the dashboards and stuff for each player - it's actually Bruce Rioch's son. I worked with him for a bit in my last job cos we got him in to do some data stuff there too. Prior to him getting involved we had fuck all and we're miles behind most other PL clubs. But having the data is one thing, having the people that can properly analyse and use it to make decisions is another. We've obviously had analysts etc at the club, but by the sound of it this lad and the team he's building are a big step up. Bruce Rioch used to be on my bedroom wall along with two ex NUFC managers 😊 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, PaddockLad said: Bruce Rioch used to be on my bedroom wall along with two ex NUFC managers 😊 His son's called Bruce Rioch as well. He's a nice bloke actually. Although for fucking ages he promised he'd get us tickets for a Newcastle match (he was still working for the club at the time) and in the end he served up a night of corporate hospitality at Boro. Complete with a Bernie Slaven after match speech and Q&A where he basically talked about how shit their keeper was. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43949 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 minutes ago, Gemmill said: To be clear, I was taking the piss out of Toonpack posting an article which directly criticised his "all I need are the eyes in my head" approach to football analysis. The fruits of their infatuation are there to see at clubs like Brighton though. It's not like this stuff is unproven. We just need our own version, and that's what we're building. I know you were taking the piss, I'm just saying that because someone or something works out somewhere else *for a spell* doesn't mean it will elsewhere or the method will stay relevant, see tactics in football, I really like Nuno, think he's one of the better managers for not being a cunt but for me Forest got found out last season, they were nearly relegated, came good then carried it forward for over half a season, They're now reverting to type albeit with a few good player in the side. I hope Suds is superb and gives an edge, we've already been doing pretty well with signings before he came in so if he can somehow raise that level I'm sure he'll be worth every penny, maybe it's just me but I don't like crucifying or lauding new people at the club, (Ashley era apart! ) until we see their results and working. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Actually Stewart Downing was there as well. Slaven interviewed him. Pie, peas, and chips dinner as well. It was canny tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15605 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 12 minutes ago, Gemmill said: To be clear, I was taking the piss out of Toonpack posting an article which directly criticised his "all I need are the eyes in my head" approach to football analysis. The fruits of their infatuation are there to see at clubs like Brighton though. It's not like this stuff is unproven. We just need our own version, and that's what we're building. Which is indeed all you do need to analyse an individual game that you have watched, comparing data from multiple games, and players over same, is a whole different ball game hopalong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, Toonpack said: Which is indeed all you do need to analyse an individual game that you have watched, comparing data from multiple games, and players over same, is a whole different ball game hopalong. As wrong in your assertion as you are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 14272 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 9 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Which is indeed all you do need to analyse an individual game that you have watched, comparing data from multiple games, and players over same, is a whole different ball game hopalong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63253 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-15158669/Newcastle-Yoane-Wissa-setback-knee-injury.html Wissa out for a further 2 weeks. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 26363 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 put it in the right thread, ffs. i expected better from you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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