Eddie Howe's Glorious Get Into Them Mags vs Thomas Partey's Former Club

[Gemmill 62983]

Had to laugh when I saw an interview with Saka last night lamenting "these decisions that always seem to go against us".

 

Made in their manager's image. 

[OTF 10528]

11 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Am I missing the "deflection" onto the Arsenal players arm btw? And why tf was the elbow on big Nick not checked by VAR? I thought the ref had a good game but VAR has fucked us twice

 

The forearm on Nick was a huge miss by the ref/VAR especially given that Gabriel then goes on to score the winner.

 

For that deflection Gabriel gets to the ball ahead of Elanga however Elamga is already swinging to cross it so the ball gets knocked onto Elang's foot and the cross hits his outstretched arm. It's a reach to consider that a natural position but IMO they don't give a pen because Gabriel gets to the ball with his foot.

[Holden McGroin 9864]

if Tino didn’t get injured I think we would have won that. Fine margins.

 

Arsenal deserved the points overall so no real complaints. Just move on and try  to start getting some points on the board.

 

I think we are in for a bit of slug this season. It could end up being a mid table job.

[wykikitoon 28482]

I wonder if shearer has the bollocks to call out the shit decision on bbc or just leave it for the rest of bollocks 

[thebrokendoll 14201]

15 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

 

 

I think we are in for a bit of slug this season. It could end up being a mid table job.

 

which was pretty much what @Christmas Tree  said the other day and was promptly rounded on.

both he and you are probably spot on.

[Dr Gloom 26309]

Travelled up from London for this one. Disappointing I’d an understatement. 

 

We’ve had so much success against Arsenal in recent seasons when we’ve been brave and pressed them. We were so passive in the match. I don’t really understand the approach as I don’t think this arsenal team are all that. 
 

Please, please, please: don’t play Burn at left back again Eddie. 
 

Anyone know if Tino’s injury was a bad one?

 

 

[Holden McGroin 9864]

I think he played Burn to combat their aerial bombardment. It didn’t work and neither did the overall tactics.

 

We have the players in midfield and defence to progress to a more possession based game but I think pretty much all the wingers lack that technical a side of their game.

[Gemmill 62983]

29 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

if Tino didn’t get injured I think we would have won that. Fine margins.

 

Arsenal deserved the points overall so no real complaints. Just move on and try  to start getting some points on the board.

 

I think we are in for a bit of slug this season. It could end up being a mid table job.

 

I seem to remember your "We're a mid table team" mantra ringing out for about 20 games of last season. 

 

Agree about Tino though, and that Arsenal won deservedly. 

Edited September 29 by Gemmill

[Holden McGroin 9864]

3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

I seem to remember your "We're a mid table team" mantra ringing out for about 20 games of last season. 

Eddie worked miracles last year, helped with one of the best strikers on the planet (vomits in my mouth). He will steady the ship again but we are 6 games in now and don’t look like much of a goal threat. I’ve got no concerns though. Just try out best and see where it gets us. We’ve been totally fucked in the summer which has bled into the season.

Edited September 29 by Holden McGroin

[Dr Gloom 26309]

12 hours ago, NobbySol said:

Joelinton and Bruno looked knackered today. Same for Murphy. 

 

We either press as a unit or not at all. Today we did the latter.

 

Gordon has been awful since Southgate ruined his confidence. 

 

Positives.

- Thiaw looks brilliant. Calm, ball playing centre half with a no nonsense filter on when required.

- Botman was Excellent again.

- Woltemade looks a handful. Once the out of form wingers find something, think we'll look a much more dangerous outfit.

 

Looking forward to the Brighton game with Ramsey and Wissa potentially back. 

 

Fingers crossed Tino isn't out for some time & we'll have a fully fit squad come then.

agreed, neither Joelinton nor Bruno showed up against opposition they usually excel against. Maybe playing them both for 90 minutes against Bradford was a mistake 

[Gemmill 62983]

Just now, Holden McGroin said:

Eddie worked miracles last year, helped with one of the best strikers on the planet (vomits in my mouth). He will steady the ship again but we are 6 games in now and don’t look like much of a goal threat. I’ve got no concerns though. Just try out best and see where it gets us. We’ve been totally fucked in the summer which has bled into the season.

 

I read an article by that mackem wanker Jonathan Wilson yesterday. A lot of it was his usual boring shit, fed through his mackem filter, but one thing he said which perhaps was right was that we should have just let Isak go earlier in the summer. 

 

He fucked us with his behaviour, but we've exacerbated the damage by allowing it to shape our whole summer and damage our start to the season. 

 

I wonder if there might be some truth in that. 

 

Mind, what has hurt us the most is Wissa's injury and that was no one's fault at the club. 

[Gemmill 62983]

I think we've probably arrived at the moment where our first choice CB pairing is staring us in the face. As much as I love Schar and Burn.

[Andrew 7457]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

I read an article by that mackem wanker Jonathan Wilson yesterday. A lot of it was his usual boring shit, fed through his mackem filter, but one thing he said which perhaps was right was that we should have just let Isak go earlier in the summer. 

 

He fucked us with his behaviour, but we've exacerbated the damage by allowing it to shape our whole summer and damage our start to the season. 

 

I wonder if there might be some truth in that. 

 

Mind, what has hurt us the most is Wissa's injury and that was no one's fault at the club. 

I saw that and briefly read up to the point where I thought he sounded like a dickhead. Made it to the third sentence.

His assertion that we "could have taken the 125 million" is missing the crucial fact that no one bid that much until the last day or two of the window.

Earlier than that the only bid was 110, which we quite rightly didn't sell him for.

[Gemmill 62983]

Just now, Andrew said:

I saw that and briefly read up to the point where I thought he sounded like a dickhead. Made it to the third sentence.

His assertion that we "could have taken the 125 million" is missing the crucial fact that no one bid that much until the last day or two of the window.

Earlier than that the only bid was 110, which we quite rightly didn't sell him for.

 

Aye and I thought the same but we could have gone back to Liverpool as soon as he went on strike, and tried to make a deal. 

 

I know there's a lot of hindsight involved, but we didn't HAVE to wait until the end of the window, and doing so has unquestionably damaged us. 

[Andrew 7457]

5 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Aye and I thought the same but we could have gone back to Liverpool as soon as he went on strike, and tried to make a deal. 

 

I know there's a lot of hindsight involved, but we didn't HAVE to wait until the end of the window, and doing so has unquestionably damaged us. 

I honestly just don't agree. I think we treated Liverpool exactly how we should have done.

 

Going back to them when he was on strike would've landed us less money because they ARE cunts, they act it top to bottom at that club.

We forced their hand in the end as much as they forced ours. We got more money out of them which is crucial in the PSR world and we made it clear that it will take extraordinary money and actions to get our star players in future, a lesson to anyone looking that we're not going to be soft touches even if it hits us a bit hard short term.

This start is tough, we've struggled to get the ball in the net, clearly.

But our midfield and defence both look VERY good, we're creating chances and Woltemade so far has had two shots on target and scored twice, he appears to be picking up the PL very well and just needs better conditioning which he'll definitely get under Howe. With Wissa and Ramsey to come back and improve our depth and output.

We've so far only lost to last seasons champions, last seasons second place and Barcelona.

I know you aren't pissing yourself but some people appear to be and its just not necessary.

[Gemmill 62983]

I think we could have got the same money for him earlier in the window like, and I'm not even really arguing Wilson's thing that forcefully. Just looking at the situation we find ourselves in and wondering whether things could have gone differently. 

 

I think Wissa has killed us more than Isak though really. It's probably accelerated Woltemade's integration though. 

 

We could really do with telling all the international players to fuck their duties off for the next two weeks, and just get on the training ground. 

[Andrew 7457]

Tindall intercepting all their callup whats app messages

"I dunno lads, they obviously don't fancy you after our tough start! Better get your heads down and train!"

[Dazzler 16112]

If we went back to Liverpool then we'd never have gotten the £125m IMO. We'd have weakened our hand and given them what they wanted/expected.

 

Aye, the way it played out in public wasn't ideal, but that's on Isak and his cunt of an agent rather than anyone at the club.

[PaddockLad 22426]

It's not often a pair nowadays @Gemmill it's a three and you've got to wonder if that's part of the problem. That and fuckin vermin...

 

We couldn't see out good positions v Liverpool and Arsenal because we're seemingly happy to defend for long periods. If Woltemade could do 90 mins (not a dig at the lad, he's going to be an excellent player but he doesn't have the physicality ATM) then his ability to hold the ball in the last 15 mins would've maybe got us over the line. The change in the  defence after Tino was taken off increased pressure.too, his ability to break out and dribble the ball 20/30 yards would've been very useful in the later stages yesterday. Pope, well fuck all to say really. He's saved us and cost us. Arsenal played us off the park before our goal and in the last 1/4 though, the disallowed penalty and the goal against the run of play fucked with them but our tiring midfield let them back in . The technicalities of both "disallowed" pens are similar ie the ball hitting a player in the first instance. Gabriel is a snide French cunt though who shouldn't have been on the pitch to equalise, cannot fuckin believe that wasn't reviewed from the virgins in the  van...sorry, just realised Arsenal play in red

 

 

Lots to think about for Howe.... 

[Gemmill 62983]

12 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

It's not often a pair nowadays @Gemmill it's a three and you've got to wonder if that's part of the problem. That and fuckin vermin...

 

We couldn't see out good positions v Liverpool and Arsenal because we're seemingly happy to defend for long periods. If Woltemade could do 90 mins (not a dig at the lad, he's going to be an excellent player but he doesn't have the physicality ATM) then his ability to hold the ball in the last 15 mins would've maybe got us over the line. The change in the  defence after Tino was taken off increased pressure.too, his ability to break out and dribble the ball 20/30 yards would've been very useful in the later stages yesterday. Pope, well fuck all to say really. He's saved us and cost us. Arsenal played us off the park before our goal and in the last 1/4 though, the disallowed penalty and the goal against the run of play fucked with them but our tiring midfield let them back in . The technicalities of both "disallowed" pens are similar ie the ball hitting a player in the first instance. Gabriel is a snide French cunt though who shouldn't have been on the pitch to equalise, cannot fuckin believe that wasn't reviewed from the virgins in the  van...sorry, just realised Arsenal play in red

 

 

Lots to think about for Howe.... 

 

Re the lack of a review for Gabriel. What is the rule there that prevented them looking at it? I understand Woltemade's comments after the game saying he could have gone down, but that's not how he likes to play, but it makes you think maybe you should just go down, etc. But there shouldn't be any difference between him going down and not. As soon as it was brought to the ref's attention, why can/does he not radio the twats in the van and get them to tell him what happened? Is that not allowed or is he just not competent enough to think of it in the moment. 

 

Cos if it's not allowed, then incidents off the ball that the ref doesn't see are basically unpoliced, and that can't be right. 

Edited September 29 by Gemmill

[PaddockLad 22426]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Re the lack of a review for Gabriel. What is the rule there that prevented them looking at it? I understand Woltemade's comments after the game saying he could have gone down, but that's not how he likes to play, but it makes you think maybe you should just go down, etc. But there shouldn't be any difference between him going down and not. As soon as it was brought to the ref's attention, why can/does he not radio the twats in the van and get them to tell him what happened? Is that not allowed or is he just not competent enough to think of it in the moment. 

 

Cos if it's not allowed, then incidents off the ball are basically unpoliced, and that can't be right. 

 

Aye before VAR he speaks to his linesman so am not sure why he can't ask for a review. Looks like Woltemade might have to learn to be a cunt along with the rest of them to get parity on decisions. Just googled it and it appears that VAR just  reviewed the club badges involved as per usual...

 

 

[ewerk 39132]

Both the VAR and on field referee can initiate a review. The fact that neither did is ridiculous.

Edited September 29 by ewerk

[RobinRobin 14487]

10 hours ago, Christmas Tree said:

And everybody was cheering like mad, except one little boy

You see, he hadn't heard about the magic suit and

Didn′t know what he was supposed to see.

Well, as the King came by the little boy looked

and, horrified Said “

Look at the King! Look at the the King! Look at the

King, the King, the King!

The King is in the altogether

 

This is how I feel hearing some of you talk about Woltemade?? ?
 

Looks years away to me from being a starter under normal circumstances. I love the fact he’s got two headers (which isn’t meant to be his thing), but he moves like an oil tanker doing the press, seems to have no hunger in the box and apart from the goal, never seems to get off the ground to win a header when the balls played up to him.

I don’t blame him for any of this, unfortunately circumstances have thrust him into a position he is not ready for. 
 

And it’s no surprise our wingers are struggling a bit when the tip of the arrow that they are used to playing with is blunted.

 

I also think Eddie got his tactics wrong today and showed Arsenal too much respect. We were toothless going forward and but for Popes first half performance, could have conceded 4 or 5 in the first half.

 

We need Wissa to be back for Brighton, stay fit and come up with a better plan for when he goes to Afcon. And then we somehow need to find some more bodies in January.

Is this the day when CT finally..... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[trophyshy 8997]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

 

I read an article by that mackem wanker Jonathan Wilson yesterday. A lot of it was his usual boring shit, fed through his mackem filter, but one thing he said which perhaps was right was that we should have just let Isak go earlier in the summer. 

 

He fucked us with his behaviour, but we've exacerbated the damage by allowing it to shape our whole summer and damage our start to the season. 

 

I wonder if there might be some truth in that. 

 

Mind, what has hurt us the most is Wissa's injury and that was no one's fault at the club. 

 

I read that article, what he failed to mention was we were lowballed.

[wykikitoon 28482]

Goals win games. Defences win titles