ewerk 35003 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) I’m also 50 miles outside of Belfast but sure of course we all know each other. Plenty of rumours going about around gangs and paramilitaries but I haven’t followed it closely. No one really seems to have a clue what happened. Edited May 6, 2021 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Sounds like sudden onset teenage psychosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1407 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 46 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: And 14year olds don't develop spontaneous psychosis within 30mins Fuck off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8153 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Blastronaut said: Fuck off. Stop chatting shit then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1407 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said: Stop chatting shit then Don't let me cramp your style like. If getting the latest gossip on 14 year kids found dead and naked in storm drains is your thing, crack on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4497 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 As if the Ormeau road residents didn't have enough sadness already. Man this is awful for the family, the parents must be climbing the walls with grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38462 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 God, that’s a grim fucking story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Mackems 134 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Awful read that. Something happened when he fell off the bike? Edited May 7, 2021 by Ugly Mackems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38462 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Ugly Mackems said: Awful read that. Something happened when he fell off the bike? Seems like the most likely thing, ie it being caused by trauma from a blow to the head. The worst thing for the parents is it’ll probably always be a mystery as to what actually happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8153 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 The time frame puts paid to some theories. He literally disappears off camera for a few minutes at most and then is back on camera stark bollock naked. Barely time for an altercation. And some of his clothes have never be found It's mad to me that he should have to be careful which streets he shows his face in because of which school he goes to. I know most cities have estates you pedal your bike a bit faster through but (inner city London aside) you don't tend to literally fear for your life. The lack of education in England on the Troubles is scandalous mind. Literally didn't hear it mentioned on the syllabus when I was at school in the 90s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: The time frame puts paid to some theories. He literally disappears off camera for a few minutes at most and then is back on camera stark bollock naked. Barely time for an altercation. And some of his clothes have never be found It's mad to me that he should have to be careful which streets he shows his face in because of which school he goes to. I know most cities have estates you pedal your bike a bit faster through but (inner city London aside) you don't tend to literally fear for your life. The lack of education in England on the Troubles is scandalous mind. Literally didn't hear it mentioned on the syllabus when I was at school in the 90s Well in the 90s it was still an ongoing political situation and changing all the time. Hard to incorporate into a national curriculum. What subject would you put it in? I think kids should be taught more about politics and media bias but then I think you risk teachers imposing their own political views onto kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38462 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 History Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It was current affairs at the time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38462 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) And? How are people supposed to understand things if you don’t teach them about the context and how situations are arrived at? Things like that and other conflicts like the Arab-Israeli ones are decades, if not centuries, in the making. It’s precisely the sort of thing you should be learning about at school because of its relevance to the present Edited May 7, 2021 by Alex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 33 minutes ago, Alex said: And? How are people supposed to understand things if you don’t teach them about the context and how situations are arrived at? Things like that and other conflicts like the Arab-Israeli ones are decades, if not centuries, in the making. It’s precisely the sort of thing you should be learning about at school because of its relevance to the present My point being how do you put an ongoing and changing situation into a national curriculum? And how do you teach it without triggering little Paddy's Dad, who has strong political views on it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 38462 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I don’t know exactly what J was driving at but I took it to mean teaching kids about how the situation in Northern Ireland had been arrived at. I don’t see how you could teach kids about The Troubles without the historical context. Any history that has an impact on the present is likely to be politically charged but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be taught. I agree it’s difficult to get the balance right but it not being taught is more about the rather shameful role of the UK government in the whole thing. Our continued avoidance of those sort of subjects is what leads to the misconception we’re better than everyone else and the world owes us s debt of gratitude. Anyway, you seen the fucking score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Wish I'd backed us instead of Liam Smith tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 38975 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 We did the Easter rising at school and the hunger strikes I'm sure as well, late 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1407 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Irish troubles aside, seems I owe @Kid Dynamite an apology. I just read over the last page and noticed I was in character assassination mode and had a go over absolutely fuck all. Sorry like. Nae excuses, just a bit sensitive to these subjects lately. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 35003 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 It was no worse than Ant’s eye in the sky analysis of the best routes round Belfast tbf. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1407 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Ha. That's reassuring, cheers. Back on topic then: in my experience, the troubles or the Irish famine just wasn't on the curriculum in British non-denominational schools in the mid 90s. Which is understandable, the full story isn't a great look for the Brits and likely wouldn't instil much in the way of national pride in reasonable people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 35003 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Agreed. You’re all a pack of cunts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2574 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: Agreed. You’re all a pack of cunts. Harsh but fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastronaut 1407 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I resent that. It's not harsh in the slightest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Nobody on this board should ever have to apologise to j69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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