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If that’s any other game than a cup final they are giving the red. As absurd as that may sound…

Aye, Craig thought that red card was justified too. At least he's consistent in his wrongness.

Burn and Havertz have history…

And the VAR assistant was Darren Cann even though back in 2017..... Assistant referee Darren Cann has been axed from Crystal Palace's FA Cup clash with Manchester City after it was revealed he once played for the Eagles. Cann played for Palace in the late 1980s, before ending his playing career and moving into officiating in 1991. guess they forgot again. no wonder city fans think "they're out to get us however they cann"

Not for me, Clive. If you look at Haaland’s foot just before the keeper touches it and the angle of his run then he’s clearly going to take the ball wide rather than through on goal. Plus there were two Palace defenders covering had done that.

tried to snap longstaff in half during the game that made legohead cry too. the rat faced cunt.

Not much to add, but self-doubt and being your own harshest critic is the curse that comes with being highly intelligent and empathetic, which you plainly are. Ignorance is bliss sadly Stick with it and don't be too hard on yourself

I'll say this for sure, if that was against us I'd be screaming for a red card. I agree with LondonBlue on this - it was going away from goal because Henderson pushed it that way. How VAR came to the decision that it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity is for them to explain.

Nothing awarded. The moving away from goal bit is a red herring based on Henderson slapping the ball away from goal. Otherwise Haaland gets his foot to it and is past Henderson with his momentum. absolute stone wall.

Atwell also gave the goal in the Manchester derby. Rashford was flagged offside, moved towards the ball dragging players, but Atwell over ruled it. With an offside rule explanation never heard before or since.

it was only going away from goal after the Palace keeper slapped it away. if not for the handball it would have been under Haalands control, his foot was right there looking to take the ball under control as it was slapped away. the former referee analysts all say it was a mistake and should have been red. but of course your entitled to your view. especially on your own forum. they definitely don't give a fuck as i wouldn't if it was the other way around. quite rightly so btw.

Firstly, you've got absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. Most people couldn't survive financially for a year without work so you clearly had built a nice little nest egg for yourself so that in itself is an achievement. Part of the problem may have been that you were applying for jobs below your level? Perhaps people looking at your CV saw the freelance background and assumed you were only applying for the role to stay there for a short period of time? I'm sure it's something you've already looked at but is your CV well enough presented, hitting the right notes? I think Gemmill may actually be right here for once. Although recruitment consultants are generally the scum of the earth, they may actually be of use to you here. They'll be able to connect you to jobs and will push for you to be hired as obviously they'll benefit from someone hiring you. You're clearly a very bright lad and I doubt there's much unemployable about you so if you can let someone else get your foot in the door then by all means allow them to.

Going freelance takes guts. I've got huge admiration for anyone that does it, so you should be proud of making a decent living out of it for six years. As with all freelance work, there are going to be good times and bad. I'm nowhere near brave enough to try it myself so respect due. We are all our own biggest critics. I've had similar moments to those you have described. I've had a reasonably successful career but I never made it into a senior management position and have seen other, more ambitious friends' careers take off in a way mine hasn't. It's easy to compare yourself to your peers and waste a lot of hours soul searching about what you might have done differently. I can't offer any suggestions about your career as it's not a business I really know or understand but a friend once gave me some good advice that stuck with me: don't get too high when things are going well and don't get too low when things aren't. Life is just a ride, like the great Bill Hicks once said. There will be ups and downs - professionally and personally. And there is a danger that we take it all too seriously. I'll close by saying I have huge admiration for your contribution to this board. We have had a few ding dongs in the political thread over the years but you're clearly an informed, interesting and thoughtful bloke and I always enjoy reading your posts. I'm sure that you're a very impressive person in real life and I'm convinced that this bad moment will pass and good things are coming for you in the future.

I think you're being really hard on yourself here. You took a brave decision to go into consultancy - I say brave cos I would never have the balls for it - and at the minute it doesn't appear to be working out. But that doesn't mean you're bad at life. That section of what you wrote really worried me, cos it sounded like you might be on the verge of doing something daft, and I really hope that I'm just misreading it. What you might not be cut out for is the uncertainty that comes with the potential irregularity of consultancy work. And that's completely normal, the vast majority of people couldn't handle that, and I think you've spoken about having some level of anxiety in general anyway. It's hard to have anything like advice for how to get out of your current situation, but I assume you're currently looking for permanent roles rather than more fixed term stuff? Are there any recruitment consultants you could talk to? A lot of these people are just sales people and are hopeless but the decent ones can genuinely match skills with roles and you might find something that way. One job that seems massively prevalent these days is project management and business analyst type stuff. Most big firms have big change departments with huge teams of these people. Is that something that would appeal? Part of the reason I ask is cos there's a lot of contract work in that area, which I would assume would mean they wouldn't baulk at someone with a freelance background. I might be completely barking up the wrong tree though. Anyway the main thing I wanted to say is please don't feel too despondent, you're not failing at anything, you're just in a rough spot at the minute and it's shite.. And definitely keep talking about it on here and don't write things and delete them.

That sort of activity is demonstrable as to why PSR is a flawed concept. You've got hooky business deals going on all over the place just to satisfy some bullshit framework. The whole Anderson / Vlachodimos thing last summer reeked and then you've got Chelsea signing players on 8 year contracts / selling their women's team / etc. There's always been questionable transfers in the past mind you - Clive Allen / Kenny Sansom at Palace / Arsenal and even Mick Harford coming to us early 80s were all a bit odd.

their away record is pretty shit so you could be right

Do you not think though, if you see a deal that doesn’t make any sense to the football public in general, that it is in some unknowable way actually bent? Take the Boumsong deals, from Rangers > NUFC on a free > recently relegated for corruption Juventus.. the media won’t blow the lid off it but they’re very likely to know what’s going on…

Atwell wasn't it? The bloke famous for giving that goal in the Watford / Reading game all those years ago when it went a mile wide?

If it was at Villa Park, I'd agree with you. But they'll be desperate to avoid finishing the season with a defeat. Forest have their key players back and I reckon Chelsea will choke like they did against us.

Nah, the referee missed it at the time.

i can't see man u getting anything against villa and i've got a feeling forest might bottle it against chelsea, annoyingly. i expect us to beat everton though and am not bothered about who joins us

I never really do this on here but today has crashed in on me harder than usual so I'm going to vent, if people will indulge me. I don't remember how much I've shared of my professional background exactly but I'm self employed working as a management consultant. Have been for about 6 or 7 years. I was in senior management before that, on the ops side, and my consulting work is really focused around technology implementation pieces, project management, that sort of thing. 2 years ago I was doing really well with this and making good money, but last year a lot of the projects dried up as the industry I worked in became more cautious - it's academic, scholarly and edtech primarily. So long story short I made almost fuck all last year and had to eat into savings considerably - that was the year I had finally managed to pull enough together to buy myself a house, which I had to put on hold once projects dried up, and which is now as far away again as ever. It has improved since, I'm back with a minimum level of projects again, but it was a bad enough run that I decided to get out of it. Problem is, I can't seem to get hold of any permanent work for love nor money, even outside my industry. I have a pretty strong CV on the face of it, but I think the entire market is so saturated with people looking for jobs that even getting seen is a barrier - plus I think people are generally reluctant to hire people who've worked as freelancers? That's the vibe I'm getting from it anyway. I'm obviously trying to open doors for myself within projects that I'm part of, but it's never been something I was that good at. So here I am, approaching 40, and still not really managing to get my life together. I've got few savings now after last year, which is part of the risk of the work I do, so I'm not beating myself up about it too much, but like... getting back out of this into something stable just feels borderline impossible. And for the record, I'm looking for jobs 'beneath' what I should be at this point, but it doesn't really seem to matter much. And the longer it goes on, the more hopeless I just feel about it all. I'm getting by with the work I have but it's sort of month to month. I just don't know if I'm ever going to recover at this point. I honestly think I'm just pretty shit at life generally, like this whole process wasn't meant for me. I'm absolutely my own worst enemy with it but I don't know what to even do to fix it now, I can't will myself back into things working out again - what if I'm just hanging on forever? Can't build a life, family, anything. Not until this is resolved. Every day I wake up with guilt and dread about my situation, this yearning to do something about it held up against the desire to hide from the reality that I can't, that I'm just inadequate. I accept that my situation is down to my own choices, I probably never should have gone into consulting at such a young age and stuck to a more stable path in order to develop a foundation, but at the time I did it, I really believed that I could just slot back in again if things didn't work out (and for 3-4 years I did actually do very well with it). At the moment I feel like I'm in prison, locked in by bad choices that I can't get away from no matter how much I try. I have precious little in my life at the best of times, which I'm ok with because I've never needed that much to start with, but I just, idk.. I'm not imaginative enough to perceive of a way to get out of this. My one long term shot is that I'm buying a business with a colleague (he's fronting all the money, I'm working my ass of to pay my share - I consider myself insanely fortunate to even have this) but it's not something that's going to help me for a couple of years yet, and even then I shouldn't assume that will come off. Nothing else seems to. Idk what I'm really saying with this post in a lot of ways. I appreciate no one can really help me with it, it's just life. But I never do this on here really, I've written things like this out so many times and just not posted it - largely because I'm ashamed of the situation I'm in. I should have done better than this. I'm really fucking ashamed of myself. Sorry for posting, I appreciate I should still be grateful I have some work at all, etc, but it's all relative in the end and the whole situation is having a big impact on my life. I accept this looks weak and self pitying. That's about where I am at the moment.

Havertz has put the elbow into the head of one of our players each time he has played us recently if i remember correctly?

I'm disappointed Lascelles didn't make it on the pitch to chin Havertz tbh.