CleeToonFan

I suppose you could argue it was one when it was a British Mandate which wasn't that long ago. In any case, Israel (in its current incarnation) is a modern invention, rather than being based on a previously existing country. I don't think the fact that a country hasn't existed before is, necessarily, an argument against its existence now or in the future though. Yes, but the Jews are a mostly homogenous race, hence the stereotypes that people have which are surprisingly true a lot of the time, and that race originates from todays Israel. You've heard of being anti-Semitic? That means hating the Jews right? the Semites were people that lived in what is Israel, Arabia etc, and always had done, until the Muslims came and took over. Historically, it's their homeland, and the Muslims came much later, the thing is, there is no such thing as a Palestinian people, and that's why it shouldn't be given sovereignty over Levantine lands.

There's never been a unified Ireland yet I've never heard that argument used against the idea. No, but there have been Irish people ruling over their separate counties etc, and a definite "Irish culture". In some cases I just don't think enough of a national identity exists, nationhood is a very serious thing and the only thing Palestine has is a deep hatred for Israel, there's no Palestinian culture per se, some things just aren't meant to be. It's the same in Europe with Kosovo and everything, that's why I mentioned Balkanization, which led me to be called a "fuckin(g) idiot". There's so many independence movements nowadays that i'm sure the entire world won't be happy until we have a Holy Roman Empire-esque creature in Europe. Not that any of that's related other than one thing, there's no need for Palestine and no need for so many fucking independence movements. Also, this pre-1967 borders shit, Israel HAD to start the Six-Day war, and the gains they got in those six days were vital for the defence of Israel, if the Arab world just let them be from the start they wouldn't have had to go to war with them

So just to clarify, noone can tell me about when Palestine has ever been a country? I've been called an idiot who knows nothing about the situation, and I can take that, personal slagging off at me for no reason is fine, not answering questions not so

It annoys you? Why is that? Wasn't Israel artificially created? Are you suggesting the Palestinians should be marched off the land and into neighbouring countries? How many states does Israel want? (I know there is only one. The Palestinians are asking for one of their own so they can run their own affairs..) It's of no interest to Palestinians how people are treated in Israel and has no bearing on the need for a Palestinian state. It isn't a religios issue I agree cause many Jews and other religions live in Palestine and many Muslims live AND VOTE in Israel. Isn't it time to give Palestine a state with equal legality and parity in the eyes of the UN? What's the holdup? I'm against the frequent balkanization of the world, it can only lead in more problems, with so many national identities surely they're all gonna clash No! I'm saying they should live in Israel and be happy, if the Palestinians came out and said "Okay, we're going to live in peace in Israel" i'm sure they'll be accepted with open arms. Similarly why can't they go to these countries like Syria that seem to care so much about them? Would these people be badly treated in Syria? Is there a national culture to preserve? I doubt there's a need per se. Oui, which shows what would happen if the Palestinians didn't get so chinny. Yes and no, if they stopped asking for the world and were prepared to negotiate properly, sure, I mean it's not personally what i'd go for but anything to stop all this fighting. I can see sadly you know nothing about the subject. Thanks for the input anyway. Which parts? The balkanization-agreed The part about them living in Israel-possible, if not definite The part about no Palestinian national culture-True, like what that area really needs is another Muslim state (albeit a democracy) It's true they're asking a lot of negotiations.

I coached about 30miles away from her in connecticut and she kept sending me PM's to meet up. She then accused me on here of trying to get into her pants What a psycho, looked frigid to me. She looked the type of lass who it's never quite happened for. She once said to me if all Newcastle fans were like me she wouldn't even entertain the idea of supporting the club. They're all like amish on the east coast of America I read somewhere. I love your sweeping generalizations , and i'm being serious too, never fails to get a chuckle.

It annoys you? Why is that? Wasn't Israel artificially created? Are you suggesting the Palestinians should be marched off the land and into neighbouring countries? How many states does Israel want? (I know there is only one. The Palestinians are asking for one of their own so they can run their own affairs..) It's of no interest to Palestinians how people are treated in Israel and has no bearing on the need for a Palestinian state. It isn't a religios issue I agree cause many Jews and other religions live in Palestine and many Muslims live AND VOTE in Israel. Isn't it time to give Palestine a state with equal legality and parity in the eyes of the UN? What's the holdup? I'm against the frequent balkanization of the world, it can only lead in more problems, with so many national identities surely they're all gonna clash No! I'm saying they should live in Israel and be happy, if the Palestinians came out and said "Okay, we're going to live in peace in Israel" i'm sure they'll be accepted with open arms. Similarly why can't they go to these countries like Syria that seem to care so much about them? Would these people be badly treated in Syria? Is there a national culture to preserve? I doubt there's a need per se. Oui, which shows what would happen if the Palestinians didn't get so chinny. Yes and no, if they stopped asking for the world and were prepared to negotiate properly, sure, I mean it's not personally what i'd go for but anything to stop all this fighting.

It annoys me how every province thinks it deserves to be a country. Tell me Park Life, when has Palestine ever been a state? I mean I can think of British Mandates, Israel, Ottoman Empire, Kingdom of Jerusalem etc etc but I can't think of Palestine (bar the name of the British mandate, but that means very little), also, what would Palestine offer that the other Muslim countries around it wouldn't? There are heaps of Muslim states around it, one one Jewish state in the entire world, these are the main reasons i'm sceptical of Palestine, that and the way most people in Israel are treated well regardless of race. This isn't an issue of religion, i'm agnostic and don't dislike either, more culture. Also why claim Jerusalem, the most sacred city to the Jewish/Christian race. I appreciate its worth in Islam, but to a much less extent

An alarm bell just went off in Parky Towers. I'm guessing you're also pro-Palestine? In which case i'll leave it, nothing good could come of this . Also, at my freshers fayre yesterday the Jewish society was conveniently placed otehr side of the hall to the free (what does that even mean!?) Palestine society, i'd have put them next to each other. Less "pro-Palestine" more "pro-final solution" Oh yeah, forgot he lived in Germany, and as you know, EVERY German ever loves killing EVERY other race (luckily they class us as Germanic, so lets fucking get stuck in!)

Imagine if it was the other way round nowadays? , fuck me the worlds going to shit

An alarm bell just went off in Parky Towers. I'm guessing you're also pro-Palestine? In which case i'll leave it, nothing good could come of this . Also, at my freshers fayre yesterday the Jewish society was conveniently placed otehr side of the hall to the free (what does that even mean!?) Palestine society, i'd have put them next to each other.

This is such a sensitive subject (And i'm really anti-Palestine whilst some of my friends are pro-Palestine) that a discussion never ends without an argument

Actually feel dead. Had training/trials for both the football AND American Football teams of my uni, and my legs feel like they're about to explode. In good news I ran a 4.8 40 yard dash which isnt too bad

Just to clarify, so an Englishman is in Germany, he's got a German wife, who slept with a Croatian, and he has the opportunity to nail an Italian, are there any nationalities i've missed? Oh, and... "Don't drop a clanger... just wank your wanger"?

Do they give you a league cup ticket? http://www.play.com/Sports-Outdoors/Sports...%7Cprd:19667421 It cost me ten pounds from JJB to get Coloccini on the back of that (mines LS though). So altogether it cost me 39.99 for the lot

Has Harper been shit canned for good now? Injured I think

Rob Fucking Elliot

No me and the Mrs are totally cool atm. I CAN control myself and have had a couple of close shaves this year...But is it bad to want to meet this bird for a beer? Just meet her for the beer, it's not as if that means you're dinking her or ought. Have a pint, see what happens, she's Italian though, she might have Mafia links and want to take all your euros :\

Oh DEADMAN, where would this forum be without you

I got Coloccini this year, thought best keep it safe and get someone who won't leave, nearly had a heart attack when Sevilla came in fer him

If you dont have any stuff of importance on there that you don't want to use, could give linux a go, most distros are free and are much better than Vista... On the other hand, if you absolutely HAVE to have windows, couldn't you torrent it? I've never used torrents before but I thought as long as you actually have the software it's legal, so you could use your code after downloading the torrent. Other that that, I have very little to suggest, i'm sure a more computer literate person can come up with something actually of use

Don't buy his tat-Shovel the twat.

I've read about the situation but not commented yet, wow, i'm so sorry, here I was being anxious about my small things and you've had real problems! I'm happy for you though mate, he'll deserve everything that's coming to him.

Anxious, moving to UNiversity tomorrow and I havent even started packing or anything D:

Happy with a draw here

I think i'm turning gay for Cabaye