Come back when've caught up with everything son...
I've read this forum for a long time, son, but a typical condescending reply from yourself from up there on the horse. Stevie is one of only a small selection of local posters on here and is pretty well liked, he goes close to the line sometimes but if you come down on stuff like that too hard you just end up with Newcastle Online, which is frankly unbearable.
If you've read it for a long time then I put you in the 'need you head examined' category that I referred to earlier.
Stevie well liked? Well I've had a multitude of PMs that counter that claim. I don't doubt that some like him but definitely not all. Anyway regardless of whether he's liked or not, he's continually transgressed (NOT as you put it 'goes close to the line sometimes') and despite being asked to cut out certain aspects of his posting, he's continued effectively sticking 2 fingers up to those who manage the place and attempt to keep order. That's not just me btw.
As one member said earlier to me, if people want to run their own forum with the own rules then they can do so otherwise STFU and that they've often thought to themselves 'What must some people think' who are just browsing as guests etc. A bit embarrassing really from that standpoint. Especially if you realise people from other clubs, the media etc. will be reading messageboards from time to time.
As for ending up like N-O, this is only the second person who has been removed from TT in almost 5 years. It's hardly like we've got a 'forum of the banned'.
Anyway - he's gone. Get over it.
You obviously didn't take my criticism of being condescending seriously by opening your post with that. What a prick honestly. I've seen how all the other admins/mods go about their business and I've seen you and there's a massive difference. Telling people to STFU who disagree with the banning is out of line as well. You know he's done fuck all wrong when you have to refer to past discrepancies to justify the ban to people mate.
Why don't you read my post correctly and then come back and have another go? I was paraphrasing.... It was the comment of someone else but that's not to say I don't agree with it.
Massive difference? How so? Because I come out and publically defend the decision of the team?
... and come across as a right snotty P.C cock in doing such. Why don't you move this magical Stevie thread over from the admin forum and let us all read it? I fully expect you won't because it'll pretty much expose how 100% in favour of it you were, and how the other admins probably reluctantly agreed in the end.
I fully expect we wont either because it's a mods thread, to be viewed by mods & admin's only. As for it all being Craig and we all reluctantly gave gave in to his demands? bollocks.
Stevie had been on borrowed time for a while really. Several members of the mod & admin teams have requested that he be banned, for various things and to the frustration of many - he wasn't.
I'll hold my hands up and admit to being one of those who probably added to that frustration by explaining away his transgression. Usually as I'd ask myself 'Would we ban someone else for this too, or does this just feel worse because it's Stevie(again)'. For the record, I was no fan Stevie either, but I'm the sort of person who tries to view all sides and in my capacity as Admin I look at any issue in isolation rather than give much weight to 'previous'.
Thing is though, there's only so many times you can do that before you think to yourself, 'hang on, why are we having this conversation AGAIN. There's a pattern here.' Stevie was a repeat offender for the same offences.
There are very few rules on here and as has been explained on here before (ironically, the last time we banned Stevie) we're pretty relaxed; which for me is one of the reasons I like this place. If this were NO, Stevie would not have lasted as long as he did as they would not have been so tolerant. Saying that is a moot point really, as IIRC Stevie was banned from NO. On that point, we have a number of members on here who have been banned from NO for lesser crimes than Stevie was banned from here for; and they post on here without incident.
For the record - people don't get banned on here 'cos we dont like them. There are a few members on here I'm no fan of and I'm sure some of you feel the same about me; but you know what? that's fine (although when I track you down I will ban you!!! mwahahahaha ) [/ end subconscious thoughts]. As Craig has pointed out already, this is only the 2nd poster we have ever banned, so it's not like we do it often and given the amount of discussion prior to it, it certainly was no quick thing.
This place pretty much runs itself because most people can keep to those few rules and that's great because I have better things to do than have discussions about who to ban etc.
In the end, with Stevie I personally started to feel that he was always pushing to see how far he'd get before one of us would bite. I have a 2yr old son who does that. He know's he doing something wrong, but just as he's about to do it; he stops & takes a quick look around to see if anyone will tell him off The difference is, Stevie is a grown man not a toddler.
In all the time I've been an admin, I've never had to talk about any other member as much as I've talked about Stevie. In fact, other than Stevie & DannyB I don't think I've had to offer an opinion on any other member. What does that tell you?
For his faults, Stevie did contribute to this forum and that was one of the reasons he lasted as long as he did. But unfortunately some of the good stuff he contributed seemed to lose it's value by the manner in which he gave it imo.
Lastly, for the record (it's a 12" this one isn't it?) it wasn't Craig who banned him.
Stevie's gone, move on.
