Rayvin

Had no idea - agree entirely with what you've said there. Hope you feel better soon yourself though

Was trying to be charitable but yes, I think youre likely right

Also I'd wager that at least 50% of this thread is making fun of their forum, rather than discussing Sunderland itself. Whereas their thread is fully focused just on NUFC.

I'm not about to do the maths like but I don't think 800 pages in two months holds up favourably against 700 in 10 years even with a 1:20 ratio factored in.

I've seen some mixed info on this FFP stuff. So yeah a lot of people are gravitating to this 200m figure because that's the amount permitted as a loss over a three year period or something, but someone posted another video with a guy saying that we could more or less spend what we want since we're currently profitable. The logic I think was that if we front loaded the spending in year 1, the values of the players on the accounts would depreciate over 3 years and this would somehow modify our profitability. Not an accountant, don't totally get the argument, but is there any logic to that? The upshot was we could spend even up to 500m or so and still be fine.

This guy. If the Saudis came to him to buy into one of his "businesses", he'd never shut up about how great they were and how he had a special relationship with them and that they had understood his unique brilliance making them far more insightful than British investors etc etc. He'd probably convert to Islam for them ffs.

Amazing. The Times presumably being the left wing one? I mean it's centrist I suppose but still.

Despite being a long time reader of it, I agree. For this and so many other things, the Guardian can indeed fuck off.

Ah. Some night time reading then

I've honestly not seen that much push back from other fans, at least on their forums. A decent number even seem to think we deserve some success after a long period in the wilderness. Mackems and journalists, yes, hate. The guardian will loathe us forever. Everyone else? Not that arsed.

I'm up for giving Wykiki a shot tbf

A very good friend of mine is a Derby fan. After years of listening to me go on about Ashley, he's now petrified. I suppose at least he'll get them promoted. They'll have a year or two of pretending to be a real football club before endless 15-17th finishes in the PL - guess they should enjoy that while it lasts.

China maybe? Hard to imagine it really since buying football clubs as a sportswashing thing is a bit smalltime for a nation state. But they're the only ones I could imagine being remotely possible.

Have another go at reading that post Almost feels like you read the first sentence and then stopped..

Any flag that is not the Union Jack, is an anti-British flag. Apparently. I suspect the actual issue is that the Saudi flag includes some text about Islam on it, and if you're in Sunderland then "Islamic" = "Anti-British".

Aye me too, but I really think this club could be so much more than that. If we're going to do anything, even if it only amounts to glorious failure, I'd like it to have a touch of the 90s to it.

Keegan going back would be the stuff of dreams. Not as a manager or DoF, but as a way of joining pre-Ashley with post-Ashley. It'd be a huge moment to rally everyone around the club and really underline how, whatever happens from here, this isn't going to be the soulless march to success that City and PSG have embarked on.

I suspect this will pass once the press get their fill of it, which might only actually be a few days. Guardian aside, I've actually seen hardly any fans even of other clubs kicking off about this. No one seems bothered. And maybe that is an indictment of our society but then it's not the fans fault we ended up here as everyone keeps saying.

Yep, that's hard to look at. Then again, the Times is owned by Murdoch who, as i recall supported the Iraq war. 460,000 deaths followed that. It's very sad that our society permits this, but on the other hand, this is the society we choose to have. If there's blood on our hands, there's blood on everyone's. I vote against this shit every time I get the chance. Does Murdoch? Does he fuck.

Oh I think that might have been something along the lines of widespread relief and elation, Alex Whoppers.

Might pick up this year's edition of football manager and have a go at the January spending plan myself

That is completely true. And they'll hate every word of it.

Have a similar memory of a city fan coming in here and complaining that we beat them in the cup one year. See, most clubs have these raging knackers who I assume go from forum to forum making total arses of themselves by calling out other fans. We have The Fish who goes from forum to forum talking us down, managing expectations and telling them not to overestimate us. It's the uniqueness of the community that makes it special

I recall a TdanSmith who was around for a while but I thought he was an NUFC fan tbh. Maybe though. EDIT - suspect this is a reference that might pre-date my time on here now Been here for nearly 10 fucking years and still not up to speed with all the references. Gonna add for the memory of that Spurs fan as well... this may be full on wet dream stuff now, but I also vaguely recall that the loss to us cost them their CL spot that year which they lost to Arsenal...? It's like it was an omen for what's about to come, where we cost them CL spots in future. Except they'll lose them to us directly. And it'll be funnier.

Anyone recall around the start of the Rafa era, we had some numpty from Spurs come in here and give it the big 'un about how smalltime we were and how fucking amazing spurs were. I don't think I'm remembering this wrong but I'm pretty sure we went on to beat them 5-0 or something and he never returned. That guy has defined Spurs for me in every conceivable way, since that moment. I wonder how he's handling this