Rayvin

Agreed, but you were suggesting he'd do it intentionally. I don't think he will, I think it'll be buffoonery that does it. As usual.

Not sure I agree with everything else you've said, but I reckon this is about right now. We need to adapt and coexist better than we are managing.

I see Donald Trump has come out and said that, if elected, he's going to 'hit ISIS so hard you wouldn't believe it'. Given that he has previously come out in support of blowing up the wives and children of terrorists, this is more than a little concerning. Is it...? I honestly think that open debate on things like this should be encouraged. And it's not hard to see why Aimaad finds our views so tedious given that he is able to witness our foreign policy firsthand in his own country, and can probably see the negative impact it has on people's perceptions of the West as a result. He's not sitting there thinking we deserve this man, he's sitting there in despair that we can't see what he thinks is a clear cause-effect scenario between our foreign policy and these attacks. You can disagree with that of course, but I don't think shutting down the discussion (incredibly bad taste) is healthy if we're actually looking for solutions. It's actually all kind of moot now though, we're past the point of no return here with respect of it being foreign policy or not, so we need a solution that addresses the issue aside from this. It's very likely going to be the rescinding of civil liberties, I would expect.

I'm not convinced, you know. Why would Ashley want to get rid of someone who can guarantee better results and performances, and get us away from this constant threat of relegation we've had for the past 2-3 seasons? I think the real issue is that we're unlikely ever to know as we're probably not going to make it.

Not as bad as being in the hostile group tbf. You'd always expect there to be some people in a party who don't agree with the leadership, and as long as they conduct themselves professionally I don't see any harm in that. It's those who are actively trying to undermine Corbyn and who are therefore distracting everyone from the Tories, who are doing the most damage.

So today we've had a list of Labour MPs who are hostile to Corbyn leaked on the same day that Labour take the lead in the polls and just after the Tory budget nightmare. I know everyone says he has no chance of winning but the lengths people are going to to try and ensure this are staggering.

We're not all blind to the hypocrisy but we've been down this route before mate. I agree with you that our foreign policy consistently makes things worse, but tackling that now is a long term solution. People want something immediate so they can feel as though we're handling the issue. We're not just going to let people die while we correct our foreign policy. Ultimately it's going to mean Trump style solutions and I reckon SEW has the right of it in the direction we're heading. I did read about the killings in Yemen. Sounds as though the US is stepping up its attacks now - that said, wasn't that allegedly a terrorist training camp? Not that you can trust the US statements in this respect given their track record...

Which doesn't automatically make it right... What do we do with them once locked up exactly? Given that doing so is more likely to further radicalise them. We need to do something but EU Gitmo isn't it, IMO.

Incredible. It's absolutely dismaying to read that. No one running the club even remotely stands for the values it should have.

The Fish I reckon. Too much shameless plugging of his podcast, strawb just can't take it anymore. I actually can't see any other possible candidates on this page...

It mentions that, should we stay up there'll be a large transfer fund available. If we go down there won't be but saying that we'll generate some through player sales.

Did they at least credit you...

Aye that shot was pretty wayward. Agree on the general point though, it was a huge relief to have him there.

Don't pretend that was a good result for you lot, like. We're both very likely down.

that's a bold claim. What happened?

Also, being brutally honest - I think the players were really going for it today. I just don't think we're very good...

At least we didn't fucking lose, but on this evidence both us and Sunderland are going down.

Like fuck was that a foul!

Fucking get in!!

Anita... why? What is Anita going to bring?

This is hopeless.

Sissoko at left back...?

Actually not a bad shout... Sissoko is offering nothing and it might be time to start putting out sides that don't feature him.

Thing is, what can Rafa possibly change? He's put basically the best team out and to be frank we do look more motivated than usual - we're just rubbish though, at the end of the day.