Rayvin

I think the reality is that we're going to have to suspend judgment until a couple of games following the City game, these matches against the heavyweights aren't telling us much.

So are we to assume that Mitro is fundamental to the way McClaren wants to play? Meaning that we essentially have no plan B, but that actually, we may have a decent plan A. I suppose Plan B might materialise in January with the signing of Austin. Either way, despite throwing 2 points away, it's nice to feel like we're actually not as bad as it looked earlier in the week.

The whole sport has gone to shit though, it's not just us at least.

What is with the order of those photos though... You can almost build a story around them... Pic 1 - The target. Pic 2 - Are those cows? Pic 3 - *thinking time* Pic 4 - ...New target. Pic 5 - Mission accomplished. ... I may have been drinking tonight.

CT has now apparently moved on to self parody...

God that's both wonderful and painful, just remembering what it used to be. FFS. In truth, there's no team in the country that can hold a candle to what that team used to represent. I don't think that kind of city wide will passion exists anymore, anywhere.

Just wait till HMHM sees that...

We actually played reasonably well in a few games prior to mitrovic's suspension, which is the only thing offering any semblance of positivity here. Maybe the team shape will somehow work better when he's back. Other than that, they look shot of confidence in my opinion...

awesome...

Straight from the comedy twitter account presumably...

Holy fuck @ Lewindowski...

If he has, he's probably going to be proven right.

Love the running commentary on here...

True Geordie, surely.

Thanks for this...tossers

True - I didn't mean you in truth, it was more in reference to LM calling Gemmill out for some kind of arse kicking. I've seen a lot of people get worked up about very little on here, mind. I dunno, I just wonder if it's worth it.

I don't get how all of this sort of thing becomes such a big deal... Why does anyone really care what anyone else says on these forums? I mean, clearly not everyone does, but still, enough do that it makes me wonder. Anyone getting angry about something over the internet is wasting their life.

I don't think this line got the credit it deserves.

I think this is probably right, but I suspect only because most of the players would have been used to Pardew's systems. McClaren is still coming up with his, after all.

Japan apparently winning against all odds yesterday against South Africa with a try in the final 10 seconds. I don't follow the sport but you've got to love the passion and emotion of that team. Sounds like the rugby equivalent of Luxembourg beating Germany in the last kick of the game.

Fully agree on Charnley being responsible for this - the guy is paid £100k a year. The CEO of the company that I work for, a company that turns over a mere £2m a year, is on more than that. You get what you pay for, and we're paying nothing for the most important job in the organisation.

I think he may be fucked then. This might turn around eventually but I don't think the coming games are going to be evidence of that. We can't even say we're improving.

Realistically, how many more games does McClaren get to make this work?

I really am close to just packing all of this in you know. Going full Gemmill.

It means shut down planned parenthood rather than the government I think, but even so it's not hugely impressive.