Rayvin

Mako, I agree with more of your points than most on here (I think there's been one so far) but Fish is right with this IMO. If the player is in a team that goes down, it would severely weaken his hand in negotiations with other clubs, especially if he wanted to remain a PL player. Granted there may be some exceptions where a bidding war triggers, but ultimately this is quite a rare occurrence. At least that's how I see it. I do actually kind of get your wider point about players not taking responsibility for their failure, but that's not the world we live in. If my company went bust tomorrow due to generally poor working practices of the staff, myself included, I would very likely be looking at a lower paid job to begin with, even if I was employed immediately.

the fuck are you doing to my posts? You're messing with my mojo dude...you're all up in my chi. That last bit just sounds like something he'd say.

Credit where it's due on that one

The FA are just as complicit as FIFA now IMO. They've had ample opportunity to pull out and have failed to do so. They know exactly what's going on.

Happy Birthday mate!

What in fuck is that?!

Happy Birthday!

You don't think Carver ran away with it?

If the consensus is that we prefer him to Pardew though, then, assuming we don't go down, we're in a better position with him than we would have been if Pardew was still here. Meaning that getting rid of Pardew will have paid off.

So much for Garde... At least McClaren actually might come good, although I can't help but think he's just another Pardew style manager. That said, he's been around the block in Europe a bit which is more than Pardew managed.

The fuck are you both talking about?

I checked the Derby forum, and they seem genuinely appreciative of him and are wishing him well etc, despite the problems towards the end of the season. Maybe his links to us became an unsettling factor as well.

Agreed, that's that then. Well, at least it isn't Carver. I wonder if Carver knew that though, or if the board really allowed him to think that it could be him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/derby-county/11622430/Derby-County-sack-Steve-McClaren-as-Real-Madrid-coach-Paul-Clement-waits-in-wings.html Apparently being punished for 'flirting' with us. Mentions that we approached him in January as well... did we know that?

Actually, what am I saying. We're currently managed by Carver so yeah, I'd take Clement if he's available.

What if Clement's just another Meulensteen though?

Oh God, watch the mad, undignified scramble by the club now...

How callous can people be...seriously. That's just fucking messed up.

Actually I was just thinking before, I bet RAWK couldn't pull together a two-three page thread hijack based around the links between classical literature and bowel movements. That's where TT comes into its own!

RAWK started a thread on this Sterling business on May 18th. 3 days later, it now has 138 pages and 5,500 posts. Can you imagine if we were like that

MF is the undisputed champ at this stuff like.

Hipster pessimism!

I've never been a big fan of N-O to be honest. I could be totally wrong, but it feels like it's approaching RTG in some ways - it's obviously the main Newcastle board where you get the slightly more excitable fan. I'm a little surprised that Essemmbee doesn't post there. That said, they do have some of the best 'Gold' threads I've ever seen.

Sorry, the first comment I made was in reference to your luck claim - I don't think they're lucky, I just think they got their arses in gear; the rest of my post was just a general lamentation about the state of our club, not a criticism of your argument.