Renton

Yeah well, feel free to applaud me. Edit: yeah, very good response from Streeting. Sunak just there: "Their signature economic policy is in tatters, and when you don’t have a plan, you can’t deliver any change for the country". Sorry, doesn't wash. All you have to do is point out the tories have left the actual economy in tatters. After 14 years, nobody else to blame.

Thinking of the dropped £28 billion pounds green energy pledge by Labour here. I think they might have played a blinder. Reeves can talk about financial credibility and fiscal responsibility, but more importantly they can deflect everything else from the BBC and the rest of the right wing media to "the tories have trashed the economy". ANd this resonates with everyone, because we all know its true. Thus in one fell swoop, the tories have lost their only effective attack line on Labour. The more I think about it, the more I am impressed. All Labour need to do now is sit back and enjoy the tories eating themselves.

I am praying to the flying spaghetti monster for this to happen. I am beginning to hate Biden as much as Trump because of his lack of self reflection.

Johnson is/was a bullshitter extraordinaire, he was un-PC, but he was socially liberal and I don't recall him pursuing the culture war that his predecessors have taken up. He wasn't even particularly right wing. He won in 2019 based partly on Corbyn, and partly on blatent lies about about Brexit which were always going to unravel. The new lot are more idealogically driven and less adept politicians. Like all before him, Sunak is caught between the more reasonable tories that are left and the right wing head bangers. He's weak as piss so is half-heartedly trying to appease the latter with culture war bullshit without any real conviction. You're right in the sense that Johnson did reveal the English public to be exceptionally gullible mind.

What gets me is they were blaming Starmer for politicising the issue, when they have been stoking the culture war for months now. They've seen it work in the US by the republicans, and think it will work here. I expect capital punishment and abortion to be added to their agenda soon. Thing is, let them. It honestly just won't work here, people can see thorugh the bullshit and just don't want it here. We are not the US.

Pearls of wisdom right there.

The BBC sources I listen to/watch certainly managed to tilt the Brianna Ghey to a ridiculous "they're both guilty" stance. Also demoted to 4th story on the news on Wednesday, behind a story of Prince WIlliam performing a routine duty.

But but Dianne Abbot....

Only 42 years to go now according to Rees Mogg.

I agre and that's another reason to support Starmer's approach in maximising Labour's votes and thereby decimating the tory party to an extent it is non-funactional. Should give breathing space to the generation of time that is needed to sort this mess out.

"Not knowing what a woman is" is a major policy now is it?

Listen to yourself in the post I quoted, theorising that Starmer was deliberately supporting a second referendum to depose of Corbyn. Is this what you seriously believe? Popularism, victimhood, and conspiracy theories are all linked. Corbyn is popularist in the loose sense of the word, they're not all right wing demigogues. He had his own cult which seems to have included you. Like all popularists eventually, he has been consigned to the dust bin of history, I just despair in the damage he comitted though the opportunity cost of a lost half decade of opposition when it most mattered. I would hope that at the very least you could recognise that under Starmer and Labour at least government wil return to a sense of competency and an end to overt corruption. I suspect not though.

Sorry, this is paranoid delusional nonsense. It just shows to me that those who follow populist leaders, no matter how otherwise intelligent, are completely blind to reality when it comes to them. Be that Johnson, Trump, or Corbyn.

EIther his correct name, fat cunt, or his given name, Alexander de'Pfeffel. Not his stage name implying he is some harmless cuddly buffoon.

FYP

Seems to be what has happened is, Sunak is not very bright and we know he can't think on his feet. For whatever reason he makes his "quip", having not absorbed the fact Esther Ghey was in the room. Like all current tories, his natural reaction is to double down and not apologise, so he doesn't, in parliament. But apparently Downing street were going to issue an apology afterwards but then Badenoch doubled down further and they were too gutless to row back on this. Sunak is a political feather weight. In the olden days, PMs served an apprenticeship before getting the top job. Most had 30 years as an MP, 20 years as a minister (or shadow),10 years in caninet, 5 years as one or more of the great offices of state. Sunak? Wasn't an MP until 2015. As Alex says, promoted to chancellor as a useful idiot for Cummings. PM by default after the Truss disaster. And things aren't much better for his predecessors. Although I think this applies to Labour as well, the Front Bench seem much more competent to me and I crucially I believe their motivation is different. They aren't in it for personal gain as much. WHatever you think of him, I believe Starmer is a fundamentally decent person. Since Johnson's purge of the conservative party, you can count decnet tories on one hand.

Don't think this is going away.

Jesus Christ. Sunak leading a conservative party political broadcast now. He's got a flip chart and felt tip pen, drawing charts, telling us why we're in the shit (solely covid and Ukraine, obs) . What a patronising bell end. The he addresses how he's succeeded in addressing his first pledge, halfing inflation. The pledge that had nothing to do with government. And that's it. Completely ignored his 4 other pledges.

New three word slogan for them“. “Deflect. Double down.“ Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down. Deflect. Double down.

Hoy man you watch Big Brother. I thought it was funny. Sue me

Anybody admit to watching Geordie Shore? Must admit this had me in stitches.

This thought comes to me listening to Badenoch and Brewer-Hartley.

Cheers. I see the semblance. 👍