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Why do you think that a vocational calling and half decent pay should be mutually exclusive? Just sounds like you want an excuse to talk down to people. OED "vocation:-.... divine influence or guidance towards a definite career" nowt in there about the pay packet Nurses lowest pay (2005 numbers) is around £ 10,800 a year (without any of thy extra payments available ) for someone at the very bottom and goes up to £ 31,000 a year before becoming a matron I think that's a pretty fair range TBH Do you? Aye. £10K a year sounds pretty fair to me like. That's actually the wage for auxiliary nurses but it's still not enough. Sorry Rob, you may have missed my question before, or you may just have ignored it. Have you ever been admitted to hospital in this country and seen how things work on the wards or in A&E etc?

Is it a vocation though? Okay, maybe it does take a "certain kind of person" to do nursing (one that's not right in the head half of the time) but I wouldn't do it for nothing. And doesn't everyone have their gripes about their job, Rob? I'm certainly not the only person on here who whines about my job. So why pick me out to target?

No offence to anyone that does work in a call centre, but I didn't go to university for 3 years to do that. The wages are crap for what we do, but they're enough that I can live independently on my own and not have to worry about job insecurity. We do get put upon and guilt-tripped, but at the end of the day I love what I do and I'm good at it. I won't do it forever and I'm looking at other avenues to go down, but it's a secure job and it pays the bills. Have you ever had to be admitted to hospital and seen what actually goes on, Rob? Genuine question.

Wow! Proper landmark that! Not that the pressures on you at all there, Catherine! Sorted man. We're sending him on a surprise holiday It's just some little bits of pressies that I need to get now...

No idea what that is but I'm assuming its uni work. Every now and again, years after leaving uni, I still have the odd dream I've got an exam coming up that I haven't been to any lectures for. Fucking mint feeling when I realise it's a load of old bollocks. Did you used to write as much shite on your exam papers as you do on here? Shut it you failed journalist! I didn't fail - I just decided to do nursing instead. Stupid, stupid girl that I am. I'm going to pursue my dream to be a travel writer, I think Failing that, I'm going to be a gypsy with a caravan and a horse.

I have to go shopping for a 60th birthday pressie for mon pere. Tres bon.

No idea what that is but I'm assuming its uni work. Every now and again, years after leaving uni, I still have the odd dream I've got an exam coming up that I haven't been to any lectures for. Fucking mint feeling when I realise it's a load of old bollocks. Did you used to write as much shite on your exam papers as you do on here?

Let you off

Oops, it's actually 12 years in March. I'm older than I thought

2 years at this hospital in May, 11 years in the NHS in March.

"Four candles?" Sorry

Looks young, but not 12!!

Unbelievable

no-one has answered my questions about the hours actually worked................................. Simple question trying to get a reasoned answer instead of the bleedingheart emotional blackmail indulged in by the medical "professions" Our overtime rate is paid at time and a third for hours worked over 37.5 per week but some places have stopped paying overtime as there's no money left in the Trusts until April, therefore we do the hours as time owed. Yes we are covered by the EWTD but in practice it doesn't always happen. We do the extra hours because there is a guilt culture in the NHS where if you walk out of the department you know you are leaving someone in the shit (usually a patient) and therefore feel obliged to stay. Any hours over the EWTD guidelines are once again taken as time owed. And no, for your information, it's not just a small number of A&E nurses who do ridiculous hours actually. Nurses on medical wards, surgical wards, orthopeadic wards, Intensive Care, High Dependency units, Coronary Care and theatres do stupid hours aswell and they do them to try and maintain standards in hospitals. To make sure that patient care is not compromised. To cover for staff who are off sick. To assist colleagues who already have too much on their plates and are finding it difficult to cope. And to look after the likes of you who are either on a major wind up or are ridiculously ignorant of the real situation. You want emotional blackmail? Go and speak to every NHS manager in the country - they're fantastic at it. If you were looking for a bite, you've fucking got one. Idiot.

After death all the bodily fluids settle wherever they are (and sometimes seep out) The first time I was looking after a patient who died I was a student and it was an old lady. We were washing her and putting a clean nighty on so her relatives could come and see her, and as I rolled her towards me to change the sheet underneath her, I just heard this awful gurgling sound and a load of bile came straight up and all down my white dress and shoes. Ack.

Aye, and the managers make all the decisions about how the service is going to be run despite the fact they never bother their arses to actually set foot on the shop floor, so don't actually know how we already work anyway. Ah well, I'm night off tonight. They can do what they like while I finish this glass of wine..

Yeah, that's exactly what we do. Sometimes for 16 hours a day if we're very lucky. And to think you have the cheek to moan on about crap pay, when you're feet up playing GoldMiner and Mahjong all night. I dunno, bloody NHS - what's it all coming to eh? Hey, I've had 3 busy nights out of 4 this week! 3 babies delivered safely, 2 burst stomach ulcers repaired, and a wrist pinned back together on a bloke who fell over pissed. I'm an angel Nah, I'm making up for the last 10 years of 16-hour days, being shit on (literally) and having dead people throw up down my uniform. I'm due a bit of respite

My dad used to be a bus driver and I wouldn't wish that job on anyone. The amount of abuse he put up with from charvas/schoolchildren/drunks/fuckwits etc whilst having to safely be in control of a vehicle of that size on the roads was just ridiculous. The job took a toll on his health to such an extent that he had a breakdown many years ago and had to take early retirement as a result.

I do a good impression tbf. What? Slightly retarded?

Understandable

Same here. In that colour too, although I wanted the pink one.. bleuuuurgh! Oh shut up

Same here. In that colour too, although I wanted the pink one..

The Millennium bridge.

Ms KatieCat How unoriginal