Kitman

I hope they discover iin due course that he has an injury problem that takes ages to fix. Then he aggravates things by going out on the lash and falling over on it. He goes on more benders to cope with the pressure of recovery and ends up getting into a fight in McDonalds with a teenage pikey, resulting in a lengthy spell in prison for ABH. Then just on the point of recovery he gets shopped to the police by a jilted girlfriend who it turns out is underage and he goes back to prison again. On release he gets shot in the arse in a mafia drive by over unsettled gambling debts and Liverpool cancel his contract. Not that I'm bitter.

In relation to the OP, I think both the club and AC are lying. We wanted to sell and he wanted to go. The rest is PR imo.

The club accountant may be jizzing into his cornflakes over the deal but not me. Our only hope for transfers is if Ashley sells up in the summer. His mentality is that of a slum landlord/asset stripper, he wants to extract the maximum cash at the every opportunity and put nothing back unless he absolutely has to. I think we're a selling club, we'll sell our best players to the big boys and not revinvest it because we've no ambition to join them. Any money for transfers in the summer will come from next season's ticket sales and Sky TV money, I think he's no intention of doing anything with this windfall other than paying off his loan to the club. Anything the club and Pardew say to the contrary is bullshit imo. The sooner he fucks off the better.

If the trust board is as hopelessly insular as people say it is, then little wonder few people are interested in attending the AGM. Maybe they've spent so long working on the legal intricancies and mechanics of the trust that they haven't noticed it's died on its arse.

apparently Carroll's out for the season now

I doubt he's thought that far ahead. He probably doesn't think further than the end of his cock actually. Judging by the look of previous conquests I'm not even sure he was capable of thinking that far ahead

I doubt he's thought that far ahead. He probably doesn't think further than the end of his cock actually.

Spot on.

Tbf there'll be no one sicker about this than Leazes. Get fucked man he'll be gloating about it for months. "Are you learning yet lad". He thinks Ashley fucking up makes Shepherd great, his very basic logic will conclude nothing else. Notwithstanding whatever anyone thinks about Shepherd..........we are a selling club, and we do lack ambition. I think this transfer window proves that and I expect that most of the Carroll money will disappear into fatty's pocket. Not really fair to say we are a selling club. 35m is crazy money. More to the point we are not a buying club! Phil, to my mind we're a selling club when we flog one of our best players to one of the "big boys" without any plans whatsoever to replace his goals. So we massively weaken our first team at the worst possible time simply because we get a great offer for him. I don't have a problem with selling him as everyone has their price and I agree it's crazy money....but not reinvesting straightaway in a top notch replacement says selling club to me. Liverpool have sold Torres, who is a lot better. We got more money in than David Villa. The money had to be taken, and i can't fault Ashley for accepting it. Where Ashley has f**ked up AGAIN, is not lining up any replacement. Liverpool ear marketed their replacements and you can bet if Carroll failed a medical Torres would still be at Liverpool. I think we basically agree then

Tbf there'll be no one sicker about this than Leazes. Get fucked man he'll be gloating about it for months. "Are you learning yet lad". He thinks Ashley fucking up makes Shepherd great, his very basic logic will conclude nothing else. Notwithstanding whatever anyone thinks about Shepherd..........we are a selling club, and we do lack ambition. I think this transfer window proves that and I expect that most of the Carroll money will disappear into fatty's pocket. Not really fair to say we are a selling club. 35m is crazy money. More to the point we are not a buying club! Phil, to my mind we're a selling club when we flog one of our best players to one of the "big boys" without any plans whatsoever to replace his goals. So we massively weaken our first team at the worst possible time simply because we get a great offer for him. I don't have a problem with selling him as everyone has their price and I agree it's crazy money....but not reinvesting straightaway in a top notch replacement says selling club to me. Are you deluded? He got sold today with barely any time left. There was a lack of planning and being prepared for such a massive bid but no-one really expected it. Don't get me wrong, I hate Ashley but we will only be a selling club; if come the summer, we haven't spent nee-enough £40million (i.e reinvest the money). Until then, it is an unfair general statement to make. I think it's deluded to suppose they haven't been planning to sell carroll for a while now. See Harry Redknapp's comments, which I believe.

If I honestly believed they intended to reinvest the money on improving the squad, I'd be happier. Based on nothing at all except cynicism about the current regime, I think they intend to pay down a big chunk of shareholder debt and increase the sale price of the club. They're basically gambling on staying up without Carroll's goals.

Tbf there'll be no one sicker about this than Leazes. Get fucked man he'll be gloating about it for months. "Are you learning yet lad". He thinks Ashley fucking up makes Shepherd great, his very basic logic will conclude nothing else. Notwithstanding whatever anyone thinks about Shepherd..........we are a selling club, and we do lack ambition. I think this transfer window proves that and I expect that most of the Carroll money will disappear into fatty's pocket. If we were a selling club, we'd have taken £12 million for him tbf. The fact that we've gotten that much for a relatively unproven player.. I don't think many 'non-selling' clubs would have rejected that bid. That's the considered view of it, even though it hurts like hell, and I hate the way the whole PR side of it has been handled, but realistically selling an academy player for 35 mill doesn't make us a selling club. See above, ASM. I don't blame them for taking 35 mill....it's a great price. However not to reinvest some of it straightaway in a top quality striker, when we're left with the dog shit we have to score the goals to keep us up, is criminal. Jumping at the cash in that way to me says selling club.

Tbf there'll be no one sicker about this than Leazes. Get fucked man he'll be gloating about it for months. "Are you learning yet lad". He thinks Ashley fucking up makes Shepherd great, his very basic logic will conclude nothing else. Notwithstanding whatever anyone thinks about Shepherd..........we are a selling club, and we do lack ambition. I think this transfer window proves that and I expect that most of the Carroll money will disappear into fatty's pocket. Not really fair to say we are a selling club. 35m is crazy money. More to the point we are not a buying club! Phil, to my mind we're a selling club when we flog one of our best players to one of the "big boys" without any plans whatsoever to replace his goals. So we massively weaken our first team at the worst possible time simply because we get a great offer for him. I don't have a problem with selling him as everyone has their price and I agree it's crazy money....but not reinvesting straightaway in a top notch replacement says selling club to me.

Tbf there'll be no one sicker about this than Leazes. Get fucked man he'll be gloating about it for months. "Are you learning yet lad". He thinks Ashley fucking up makes Shepherd great, his very basic logic will conclude nothing else. Notwithstanding whatever anyone thinks about Shepherd..........we are a selling club, and we do lack ambition. I think this transfer window proves that and I expect that most of the Carroll money will disappear into fatty's pocket.

Didn't you say he was going to Spurs, oh mystic meg?!

Carroll didn't look gutted when he arrived at Liverpool if that pic is anything to go by. Players will always vote with their feet if the club won't match their ambition with cash and signings and who can blame them. Kissing the badge isn't as attractive as kissing a whopper contract.

I'm not gutted that he's going. I'm gutted that they gave no thought to replacing his goals.....

There's still time to seal the deal with Dean Windass

I totally agree with this. When you sell your best young player to your competitor at the first opportunity, you aren't a big club. When we sold Andy Cole we went out and bought Shearer. This time round people are talking about Dean Sturridge, ffs. It was Ferdinand rather than Shearer but I get your point. The years have not been kind....

because he is one?

Like Leazes I'm tempted to think he was talking about small clubs actually.

He's only stating the obvious. I expect the plan was to repay Ashley's loan as soon as it looked like we might be doing enough to stay in the prem. He said: "I've had a good laugh this afternoon watching stuff coming out of Newcastle about how they didn't want to sell him, how hard they've fought to keep him, they've pulled out all the stops, and he's handed in a transfer request but they've battled it all the way. My god. Every time they sell a player, one of these clubs, they make the player put in a transfer request to make it look like they didn't want to sell him." He added "One of the fanniest fings I've ever seen". One of these clubs? Whatever can he mean?

He's only stating the obvious. I expect the plan was to repay Ashley's loan as soon as it looked like we might be doing enough to stay in the prem.