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There used to be a full silver service dining set on it, but that's Liverpool for ya !!

Commercial revenue in Germany dwarfs EPL clubs numbers (Bayern make more commercially than any club on the planet)

They've been punished enough man leave him alone

Great country this, you can assault someone becasue you "thought" they were going to hit you first and you can call people black cunts. Well if you're a fottballer you can.

Regan has said he wont allow D3, it's D1 or nothing (whatever nothing means) Gordon ‏@Gri64 RT 10/7 @alextomo that is not the point, the point is if Regan is going to over rule it. Peterhead chairman says SFA will - go ask him why?Details Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite 1halex thomson‏@alextomo @Gri64 Stenhousemuir says same. Seems pretty clear S Regan told them all they'll only consider Div 1 doesn't it? View conversation Hide conversation Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite

No wonder the playing field never levelled out: The SPL deadline for clubs to provide information on improper registration of players was six weeks ago today but the league has yet to report findings to clubs, while the chief executive rallies support to allow a Newco access to the league. Time has expired on this policy of non-disclosure until it’s too late. If the SPL chief executive ever tells us that Rangers fielded improperly registered players between 2000 and 2012, resulting in years of 3-0 defeats being awarded, there will be an enormous amount of anger, not only among supporters, but in boardrooms across the country, as they ponder money which was rightfully theirs but which went to Rangers – perhaps including Rangers prize money for finishing second this season. We have made an attempt to quantify this money. Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from. We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012: Minimum loss: The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players. Weighted loss: The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend). Maximum loss: The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to. Our estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years. This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought. Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses. Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m. Figures for each club are: Hearts Maximum: £72.3m Weighted: £16.3m Minimum: £6.2m Celtic Maximum: £46.7m Weighted: £21.9m Minimum: £17.4m Hibernian Maximum: £34.8m Weighted: £8.4m Minimum: £3.6m Aberdeen Maximum: £21.1m Weighted: £5.5m Minimum: £2.7m Dundee United Maximum: £20.8m Weighted: £5.2m Minimum: £2.4m Motherwell Maximum: £16.7m Weighted: £4.4m Minimum: £2.1m Kilmarnock Maximum: £5.1m Weighted: £1.9m Minimum: £1.3m Dunfermline Maximum: £3.4m Weighted: £1.8m Minimum: £1.5m Inverness Maximum: £1.3m Weighted: £1.3m Minimum: £1.3m St Johnstone Maximum: £1.1m Weighted: £1.1m Minimum: £1.1m St Mirren Maximum: £1.1m Weighted: £1.1m Minimum: £1.1m In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following: Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or Dundee. If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m. The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m. Results will be changed, trophies can and will, be re-awarded, but these are the harsh financial consequences clubs, their lawyers and supporters, will consider when the facts are presented to them next week. The SPL executive has had six weeks to consider if there is sufficient evidence to commence disciplinary proceedings; they have failed to do so. They have failed you and every other football supporter in the land, while shamelessly pursuing an accommodation for the errant club BEFORE REVEALING THE FACTS TO YOU. Time will be up soon, Mr Doncaster. You’ve had your chance but you have convinced no one. The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and the rest, they will hear the truth and read these figures. You have failed them. You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.

They further state he paid £1.5Mill for plant, machinery ,fixtures and fittings, he got Ibrox, the training centre and a big car park for just over £1Mill. Best deal possible for creditors - aye right !!!!

Y'in oil and gas? Was up there 7 years until last year, now doon sooth, love Aberdeen though, thinking of maybe manoeuvring back there next year. Also home of the best curry house I've ever been in anywhere.

Sort of Strictly come football, Stevie, is it ? Do they have dress rehearsals and the like??

Think what turns a lot of people off (who've never been) is their unshakeable pride in their country, flags everywhere as an easy example. I think what people don't appreciate is that they had a Civil War only 80-ish years before WW2 and they lost over 600,000 killed compared to 480,000 in WW2. That's an awfull lot of blood spilled to rebuild a nation, be an awfull dis-service if they weren't proud of what they fought for, in historical terms very recently, IMO. Also a bloody good, recent reason, to try and "stay out of it".

Expected as much, I reckon Stevie gets a nosebleed if he ventures into an NE postcode with a double digit number.

I'm really curious why so many people hate America and/or Americans

Why ?? They also donated a fair amount of spilled blood you imbecile.

You should read this, a great read:

True, without us holding out in Europe they couldn't have done fuck all, without their help we couldn't have held out.

Gold and Sword beaches British, Juno Canada, Omaha and Utah beaches US. Casualties on the British beaches were roughly 1000 on Gold Beach and the same number on Sword Beach. The remainder of the British losses were amongst the airborne troops: some 600 were killed or wounded, and 600 more were missing; 100 glider pilots also became casualties. The losses of 3rd Canadian Division at Juno Beach have been given as 340 killed, 574 wounded and 47 taken prisoner. The breakdown of US casualties was 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach.

Oil prices ????? Oh and you never mentioned the connvoys that supplied us when we were up against it, those supplies came from............... where was it again ?????

Probably not bother with Tax and NI, that usually works for them.

Totally agree, doing craic a dis-service tbh, it's just beyond crass.

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Yep Fans in uproar (yet again) Full text of the meeting invite (from Thomo's blog) Dangerous game, many SFL chairmen are fucking foaming, a vote of NO to number one would sink Sevco. Subject: SFL Special General Meeting – Friday, 13th July, 2012 Dear Sir or Madam, NOTICE OF SPECIAL GENERAL MEETING – SCOTTISH FOOTBALL LEAGUE Notice is hereby given that a Special General Meeting of The Scottish Football League will be held within the Bell/Baird Suite on the fifth floor of Hampden Park, Glasgow on Friday, 13th July, 2012 at 11.00 a.m. for the purpose of considering and, if thought fit, approving the following proposals:- (i) That the Scottish Football League Members agree to admit Sevco Scotland Limited as an Associate Member and agrees to permit Rangers F.C. to play in the League during Season 2012/13. (ii) That the Scottish Football League Members direct the Board of Management of The Scottish Football League (the “Board”) to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the Third Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13 unless the Board shall have to its satisfaction negotiated and reached agreement with The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish Football Association on a series of measures which the Board shall consider to be in the best interests of the game, how it is structured, how it is governed and how it is financed, whereupon the Board shall be authorised to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the First Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13. (iii) That the Scottish Football League Members in terms of Rule 12 approve the resignation of either Dundee F.C. or Dunfermline Athletic F.C., whichever shall be admitted to join the Scottish Premier League for Season 2012/13, such resignation to take effect as at the date of admission of such club to the Scottish Premier League, notwithstanding that the requisite notice under Rule 12 shall not have been given.Details of the series of measures referred to at (ii) above shall be made available to the Members in advance of the meeting and an opportunity for full discussion of those measures will be given prior to the proposals being put to the meeting. In accordance with the terms of SFL Rule 53, your club must send one representative to this meeting and I would be most grateful if you could advise me of the name of your representative by return. A buffet lunch will be served at the conclusion of the meeting. Kind regards, David A. Longmuir Chief Executive, SFL.

Even, now, do yourselves a favour and go and see the fuckers:

Aye his mam does seem a bit of an "ogre". He's very guarded with the press because he ws stitched up over his "anyone but England" thing (when he was 18 btw). http://bleacherrepor...against-federer

Nice guys come second. It's a particularly Brit thing, Brit's are supposed to win/lose (frequently) with a smile on their face. As a nation we'd have hated McEnroe if he was a Brit (instead we hated him because he was a petulant Yank), even Borg because he was the "iceman" but he won stuff. Jimmy Connors was a "favourite" at Wimbledon because he was a "character", won nowt like the other two though, but his japes made up for his petulance when he was "in the zone". Steve Davis at his peak - miserable twat etc etc Give me dour/miserable winners over spirited cheerfull "almost but not quite the winner" nice guys any time. In sports where winning is down to your own "solo" performance, I'm actually struggling to think of many "happy go lucky" winners. Federer maybe, but he's been winning so long he can relax in his "greatness" he knows he can do it because he's been there, seen it, done it, more times than anyone and there's a steel belief now built into the guy. Can't recall how "nice" he was when starting off.

Yet PL said: "But that all spread like wildfire and soon every footy lad in Britain was dressed as if he was on the 17th green at fuckin Wentworth" What's that make those who followed the backward ???