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I honestly did believe you were brighter than this. By linking the shirt deal with the toxic naming rights and quoting £10m for the privilege he's basically minimising the chance of anyone actually taking up the deal. Which means in a years time we will be wandering round with SD on our tops. You're going to mock me here but I think there's worse to come. Nov 11 - stadium name change to "promote the advertising potential" Feb 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Colo "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Aug 12 - no new sponsors therefore SD on shirts to "further promote the advertising potential". Oct 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Tiote & Cabaye "protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Feb 13 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Ba, HBA & Krul "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Aug 13 - Club announce they've been forced to add to sponsorship benefits. "have the strips in your corporate colours with your name on the front "amazing chance to fully sponsor a major Championship club for only £50m per season". Sports Direct step in and graciously offer to let use use Blue & Red as a showcase. Aug 15 - "On Sky Sports 7 today we have the clash of the titans, our new First Division coverage starts with a trip to the Sports Direct Arena as Sports Direct FC take on Brighton" meanwhile Football Club United Newcastle play their inaugural game against Hebburn Labour Club in front of a 30k crowd. I've made the statement & I stand by it. I will never set foot inside the Sports Direct Arena unless it is to take part in some organised protest, this is our club and our stadium it is not a corporate brand. It is Newcastle United FC @ St James' Park So you will be giving them the very excuse you state they need for all those things you predict. It is and always will be SJP, ignore it. Oh, and you'll never get 30K in Hebburn, it's south of the river, Newcastle can't be based south of the water, nee fucker'd go. Fuck off you cunt. I hate cunts like you. You mean hate people who don't cry at the slightest thing ??? Slightest thing1?!?!??!?!?!?! 130 years of history consigned to memory in one sweep. You fucking arsehole! Will the renaming of NUFC be a slight thing too. As I said last night it will never happen at Celtic or Man Utd. Imagine this "the Champions League Quarter Final between AC Milan and Chelse is live arfter the break from the Dominos Pizza Arena", it's as bad as what he's done. The two of them could spit roast your wife, "well I'm all for sanctioning positive feelings at boardroom level". You're a tit mate a fuckin tit. Consigned to memory, get a grip man, who amongst supporters (who are all that matters tbh) anywhere (except Sunlun for the wind up factor) is going to call it SD Arena. No-one who matters will. It is and always shall be SJP. Do I think what he's done is right, no. But it makes no difference unless you let it. You got over SD @ SJP, you'll get over this.
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I honestly did believe you were brighter than this. By linking the shirt deal with the toxic naming rights and quoting £10m for the privilege he's basically minimising the chance of anyone actually taking up the deal. Which means in a years time we will be wandering round with SD on our tops. You're going to mock me here but I think there's worse to come. Nov 11 - stadium name change to "promote the advertising potential" Feb 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Colo "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Aug 12 - no new sponsors therefore SD on shirts to "further promote the advertising potential". Oct 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Tiote & Cabaye "protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Feb 13 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Ba, HBA & Krul "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Aug 13 - Club announce they've been forced to add to sponsorship benefits. "have the strips in your corporate colours with your name on the front "amazing chance to fully sponsor a major Championship club for only £50m per season". Sports Direct step in and graciously offer to let use use Blue & Red as a showcase. Aug 15 - "On Sky Sports 7 today we have the clash of the titans, our new First Division coverage starts with a trip to the Sports Direct Arena as Sports Direct FC take on Brighton" meanwhile Football Club United Newcastle play their inaugural game against Hebburn Labour Club in front of a 30k crowd. I've made the statement & I stand by it. I will never set foot inside the Sports Direct Arena unless it is to take part in some organised protest, this is our club and our stadium it is not a corporate brand. It is Newcastle United FC @ St James' Park So you will be giving them the very excuse you state they need for all those things you predict. It is and always will be SJP, ignore it. Oh, and you'll never get 30K in Hebburn, it's south of the river, Newcastle can't be based south of the water, nee fucker'd go. Fuck off you cunt. I hate cunts like you. You mean hate people who don't cry at the slightest thing ???
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Which no doubt the blame of which will all be left with the fans...... Which would be right tbh, if indeed, there's a detrimental or poisonous atmosphere on match days. He owns the club lock stock and barrell, he can and will do what he wants, when he wants, no amount of angst will change that. It could however effect the team on matchday, which I always thought was the only important thing.
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Toonpack already got a semi at the thought of hearing his sweet, sultry tones sooth him with talk of Sports Direct United. How old are you, seriously ?? Btw, What will you call the ground from now on ??? I would guess the same as me and everyone I know (and I would suggest every person in the North East and most likely football supporters everywhere), it will be St James' Park. The fact that Sky "may" refer to it differently in their shows is irrelevant. As I said it is and always will be SJP.
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I honestly did believe you were brighter than this. By linking the shirt deal with the toxic naming rights and quoting £10m for the privilege he's basically minimising the chance of anyone actually taking up the deal. Which means in a years time we will be wandering round with SD on our tops. You're going to mock me here but I think there's worse to come. Nov 11 - stadium name change to "promote the advertising potential" Feb 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Colo "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Aug 12 - no new sponsors therefore SD on shirts to "further promote the advertising potential". Oct 12 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Tiote & Cabaye "protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Feb 13 - Llambias blames fans for lack of transfer purchases & sale of Ba, HBA & Krul "your protests against name change is putting sponsors off" Aug 13 - Club announce they've been forced to add to sponsorship benefits. "have the strips in your corporate colours with your name on the front "amazing chance to fully sponsor a major Championship club for only £50m per season". Sports Direct step in and graciously offer to let use use Blue & Red as a showcase. Aug 15 - "On Sky Sports 7 today we have the clash of the titans, our new First Division coverage starts with a trip to the Sports Direct Arena as Sports Direct FC take on Brighton" meanwhile Football Club United Newcastle play their inaugural game against Hebburn Labour Club in front of a 30k crowd. I've made the statement & I stand by it. I will never set foot inside the Sports Direct Arena unless it is to take part in some organised protest, this is our club and our stadium it is not a corporate brand. It is Newcastle United FC @ St James' Park So you will be giving them the very excuse you state they need for all those things you predict. It is and always will be SJP, ignore it. Oh, and you'll never get 30K in Hebburn, it's south of the river, Newcastle can't be based south of the water, nee fucker'd go.
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Surprised she didn't winkle it out of him, guess he must have clammed up
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Alan Pardew - Poltroon sacked by a forrin team
Toonpack replied to Kid Dynamite's topic in Newcastle Forum
Considering that by the end of the game we had our 5th, 6th and 7th choice midfielders on the pitch (after Cabaye, Tiote, Obertan and Marveux) we cannot complain really.- 10610 replies
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It's a simple mark of respect and the fact that not wearing a poppy seems, to some, to be a sort of badge of honour, is just really fucking sad. I am fortunate that I have all the letters sent home from Flanders by my great uncle, he was swept up in the "Your Country Needs You" crap and his first letters are all "Off to bash the Hun, be back by teatime", "Can't wait until Charlie gets here" (My grandfather - joined up at 14yrs old) then the letters change once he's at the front, from descriptions of looking for survivors/collecting the dead from a shelled village to just general stuff about life there, eventually the letters turn to cards with multiple choice statements (cross out which is not applicable) his last card was "I am fine".He was killed, 2 days later, on 26th September 1915 at the Battle of Loos and has no known grave. Later letters from his comrades state he was variously shot through the head or heart (depending on the letter) and died instantly in no pain, truth is, who knows. (on my Grandfather, when Gordon and his elder brother - died of wounds, were killed my great grandmother coughed his age to the Army and he was discharged, they knew he was way under age (we have pictures of him with his unit - he's a child amongst men) but until it was "officially" reported they ignored it. I wear my poppy for them and those like them (especially the 14 year olds who weren't pulled out).
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Would you have taken 7th place right now?
Toonpack replied to Lake Bells tits's topic in Newcastle Forum
There are rumours a "mystery" FB deal is done (not the Dutch lad), Maiga is done, and they are looking for CB depth, alledgedly -
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Newcastle United vs Everton match thread
Toonpack replied to Monroe Transfer's topic in Newcastle Forum
Absolutely agree, might not have been pretty but it has to go into the outstanding result category -
Newcastle United vs Everton match thread
Toonpack replied to Monroe Transfer's topic in Newcastle Forum
Simpson lost him but nee fucker on the post, mentioned it to my lads before the kick was taken. -
Newcastle United vs Everton match thread
Toonpack replied to Monroe Transfer's topic in Newcastle Forum
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Newcastle United vs Everton match thread
Toonpack replied to Monroe Transfer's topic in Newcastle Forum
Not a bad little read. We don't wanna get carried away though and I still think if we finish in top 7 it would be a great achievement. Nice to see Ba in the top five scorers. From the position we are in, not to, would be apalling tbh. We should only need ever so slightly above relegation-esque form from here on in to achieve that -
Taking the above into account Average league position 7.6th Average Ashley league position 15.75th It's not about "versus Ashley" it's about sustainability and that 15.75th would have looked mighty good when we had no money. BTW Post 1st Keegan spell, 9.4th (which madly, is good for 5th best evidently) Wonder what £52 Mill would have bought SBR The only ownership in football that has ever made HUGE personal gain, for not a penny risked, whilst in charge of a club (that was genius, of a sort). That in itself should tell you something. That no-one else has been able to take a club from 3rd division relegation bait to sustained champions league qualification in the past 20 years? Short lived and intermittent would be more apt, maybe if the team had another £52 Million to play with it might have been sustained. 25 years ago Man U were in the bottom 4 (along with us), having a few years previously been relegated ('74) and come back. Funnily enough, Martin Edwards profited to the tune of......£52m http://m.guardian.co...rt&type=article Edwards divested some of his shares periodically to "the city", he made his big wedge at sale. He didn't, for example, sell his shares back to the club and they (Man Utd) have had real sustained success, I think you would agree. He took reasonable dividend and admittedly large salary BUT they were making money and were really succesful. Man U was floated to raise the money to expand the Stretford end (they said) but it was equally done to make money for the directors. The subsequent behaviour of the directors in terms of share disposal and dividend etc. is incomparable. Especially so, given the financial performance backdrop of us and them. If we'd had half the success of Man U, do you think I'd begrudge the £52 Mill (which does not include the profit from sale), no way would I. But we haven't and that £52 Mill could have made a huge difference, shit even if it was creaming off profits I'd have less of a gripe, but it wasn't, it was leveraging personal gain from the very fabric of the club, which the club could not afford and had to borrow to pay. Think of it like performance related pay, you’re saying the owner of Maxwell’s DIY should be rewarded the same as the majority shareholder of B&Q Good try, but no cigar.
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The Mrs is gutted, she has to deal with some of the players on occassion and Loven is "just a lovely, lovely man" (which is usually followed by "unlike that "**** ************ ****** ", but I can't type that bit out)
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Newcastle United vs Everton match thread
Toonpack replied to Monroe Transfer's topic in Newcastle Forum
Paranoia is a funny thing maybe I should have included skunkers too. Obsession is funny an all -
Taking the above into account Average league position 7.6th Average Ashley league position 15.75th It's not about "versus Ashley" it's about sustainability and that 15.75th would have looked mighty good when we had no money. BTW Post 1st Keegan spell, 9.4th (which madly, is good for 5th best evidently) Wonder what £52 Mill would have bought SBR The only ownership in football that has ever made HUGE personal gain, for not a penny risked, whilst in charge of a club (that was genius, of a sort). That in itself should tell you something. That no-one else has been able to take a club from 3rd division relegation bait to sustained champions league qualification in the past 20 years? Short lived and intermittent would be more apt, maybe if the team had another £52 Million to play with it might have been sustained. 25 years ago Man U were in the bottom 4 (along with us), having a few years previously been relegated ('74) and come back.
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Newcastle United vs Everton match thread
Toonpack replied to Monroe Transfer's topic in Newcastle Forum
Paranoia is a funny thing -
Taking the above into account Average league position 7.6th Average Ashley league position 15.75th It's not about "versus Ashley" it's about sustainability and that 15.75th would have looked mighty good when we had no money. BTW Post 1st Keegan spell, 9.4th (which madly, is good for 5th best evidently) Wonder what £52 Mill would have bought SBR The only ownership in football that has ever made HUGE personal gain, for not a penny risked, whilst in charge of a club (that was genius, of a sort). That in itself should tell you something.
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I fucking hope not !! Cheap shite
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Newcastle United vs Everton match thread
Toonpack replied to Monroe Transfer's topic in Newcastle Forum
Christmas is coming, the Nike goose needs to get fat(ter) -
Think it don't matter what our results are against the top 2 (they will beat more or less everyone this year). What will make or break our season given that our results against average and weak sides continues is our results against Arsenal, Liv and Spurs...Those games for me are the key indicators. Did you know that Man U did not win a single away game against top half opposition last season? Yet still won the league. I make this point (in a roundabout way) quite often about Man U and it can't be underestimated tbh. They will go away and lose at places like Liverpool etc and while the Scousers are there celebrating winning their cup final Ferguson simply won't bat an eyelid at it. He knows Man U will go on and beat the sides (the inferior/'easy' sides) that Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc will piss points away to and he picks up the league trophy at the end of the season. The importance of this applies equally to our start to the season. We've played several 'easy' sides but we would routinely piss points away to them/roll over and die in normal circumstances. This season we haven't-we've ground out results, employed gameplans, started with the mindset of not conceding goals, been cynical when necessary (towels) and had a 'never know when we're beaten' mentality and it deserves some fucking credit. As I say, the fact this is our best top flight result sequence in 60 years is an absolute disgrace and does put into perspective why we've never won owt. You can spend truckloads of money but you'll never see the best from that investment unless you've got those basic rudiments in place. I hope to fuck theres just even a moderate amount of investment this winter because it could make a real difference and more to the point this team actually deserves strengthening, the way they're wanting to play for the shirt. Just get half a fucking twitch in your pants, please Mike because this is what it's about. Your coaching staff are showing that even just a few quid is likely to be well deployed so lets treat January as the opportunity to keep pushing forwards, not backwards!! What an excellent post. And on the "mentality" bit, I read this today, different sport, unbeaten team, coach's view: Question was - can a loss be a good thing. Philosophically, we could talk all day about winning and losing. Winning and losing are representative of the three reinforcement theories – positive, negative and zero. As you develop a program that gives a team the ability to grow, positive reinforcement is the best formula for growth. Historically and through case studies, that’s been proven. Negative reinforcement is a short-term answer for correction, but constant negative reinforcement inhibits growth. I think winning and losing parallels the positive versus negative theory. To answer the question, I don’t think a loss is ever good, but it can give you short-term negative reinforcement to get your focus back in line. As a leader, I feel strongly that I can keep the team focused through winning and positive reinforcement to promote growth and confidence as we move forward. As a result, winning becomes ingrained, habitual and establishes a standard. A loss can be a punch in the mouth, but it inhibits progress. In professional sports, it’s all about winning and progressing to be the best you can be, because if you’re playing the best you can, your chances of winning increase greatly. do you mean "winning mentality" as in finishing 2nd [twice], 3rd [twice], 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th in 14 years ? Including "trophy signings" ie largely players who are used to winning ? Or spending one year almost going down, then relegated, another season coming back, and your first season up selling your best players and pocketing the cash ? Somehow I don't think this will get even a half-intelligent football based reply. £52 Million Oh and 13th three times,11th twice and 14th once, for every ying there's a yang
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Think it don't matter what our results are against the top 2 (they will beat more or less everyone this year). What will make or break our season given that our results against average and weak sides continues is our results against Arsenal, Liv and Spurs...Those games for me are the key indicators. Did you know that Man U did not win a single away game against top half opposition last season? Yet still won the league. I make this point (in a roundabout way) quite often about Man U and it can't be underestimated tbh. They will go away and lose at places like Liverpool etc and while the Scousers are there celebrating winning their cup final Ferguson simply won't bat an eyelid at it. He knows Man U will go on and beat the sides (the inferior/'easy' sides) that Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc will piss points away to and he picks up the league trophy at the end of the season. The importance of this applies equally to our start to the season. We've played several 'easy' sides but we would routinely piss points away to them/roll over and die in normal circumstances. This season we haven't-we've ground out results, employed gameplans, started with the mindset of not conceding goals, been cynical when necessary (towels) and had a 'never know when we're beaten' mentality and it deserves some fucking credit. As I say, the fact this is our best top flight result sequence in 60 years is an absolute disgrace and does put into perspective why we've never won owt. You can spend truckloads of money but you'll never see the best from that investment unless you've got those basic rudiments in place. I hope to fuck theres just even a moderate amount of investment this winter because it could make a real difference and more to the point this team actually deserves strengthening, the way they're wanting to play for the shirt. Just get half a fucking twitch in your pants, please Mike because this is what it's about. Your coaching staff are showing that even just a few quid is likely to be well deployed so lets treat January as the opportunity to keep pushing forwards, not backwards!! What an excellent post. And on the "mentality" bit, I read this today, different sport, unbeaten team, coach's view: Question was - can a loss be a good thing. Philosophically, we could talk all day about winning and losing. Winning and losing are representative of the three reinforcement theories – positive, negative and zero. As you develop a program that gives a team the ability to grow, positive reinforcement is the best formula for growth. Historically and through case studies, that’s been proven. Negative reinforcement is a short-term answer for correction, but constant negative reinforcement inhibits growth. I think winning and losing parallels the positive versus negative theory. To answer the question, I don’t think a loss is ever good, but it can give you short-term negative reinforcement to get your focus back in line. As a leader, I feel strongly that I can keep the team focused through winning and positive reinforcement to promote growth and confidence as we move forward. As a result, winning becomes ingrained, habitual and establishes a standard. A loss can be a punch in the mouth, but it inhibits progress. In professional sports, it’s all about winning and progressing to be the best you can be, because if you’re playing the best you can, your chances of winning increase greatly. American Football par chance? Well obviously, but the premis is applicable But if you'd rather take the piss, fill yer boots.
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Think it don't matter what our results are against the top 2 (they will beat more or less everyone this year). What will make or break our season given that our results against average and weak sides continues is our results against Arsenal, Liv and Spurs...Those games for me are the key indicators. Did you know that Man U did not win a single away game against top half opposition last season? Yet still won the league. I make this point (in a roundabout way) quite often about Man U and it can't be underestimated tbh. They will go away and lose at places like Liverpool etc and while the Scousers are there celebrating winning their cup final Ferguson simply won't bat an eyelid at it. He knows Man U will go on and beat the sides (the inferior/'easy' sides) that Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc will piss points away to and he picks up the league trophy at the end of the season. The importance of this applies equally to our start to the season. We've played several 'easy' sides but we would routinely piss points away to them/roll over and die in normal circumstances. This season we haven't-we've ground out results, employed gameplans, started with the mindset of not conceding goals, been cynical when necessary (towels) and had a 'never know when we're beaten' mentality and it deserves some fucking credit. As I say, the fact this is our best top flight result sequence in 60 years is an absolute disgrace and does put into perspective why we've never won owt. You can spend truckloads of money but you'll never see the best from that investment unless you've got those basic rudiments in place. I hope to fuck theres just even a moderate amount of investment this winter because it could make a real difference and more to the point this team actually deserves strengthening, the way they're wanting to play for the shirt. Just get half a fucking twitch in your pants, please Mike because this is what it's about. Your coaching staff are showing that even just a few quid is likely to be well deployed so lets treat January as the opportunity to keep pushing forwards, not backwards!! What an excellent post. And on the "mentality" bit, I read this today, different sport, unbeaten team, coach's view: Question was - can a loss be a good thing. Philosophically, we could talk all day about winning and losing. Winning and losing are representative of the three reinforcement theories – positive, negative and zero. As you develop a program that gives a team the ability to grow, positive reinforcement is the best formula for growth. Historically and through case studies, that’s been proven. Negative reinforcement is a short-term answer for correction, but constant negative reinforcement inhibits growth. I think winning and losing parallels the positive versus negative theory. To answer the question, I don’t think a loss is ever good, but it can give you short-term negative reinforcement to get your focus back in line. As a leader, I feel strongly that I can keep the team focused through winning and positive reinforcement to promote growth and confidence as we move forward. As a result, winning becomes ingrained, habitual and establishes a standard. A loss can be a punch in the mouth, but it inhibits progress. In professional sports, it’s all about winning and progressing to be the best you can be, because if you’re playing the best you can, your chances of winning increase greatly.