Craig

this is a no-no for you, because you have backed him like Shepherd to be successful. You simply can't criticise someone for making a decision that you yourself agreed with I've also suggested some reasons for him not sacking Souness, why don't you read the thread properly and comment on them instead of continuing your paranoid stance. Never once 'backed' Souness. If you go to the thread on toonchat (http://s7.invisionfree.com/toonchat/) you'll see I was firmly against the appointment from the outset. fair point as i said, but its a token gesture that would not have much impact, it's no use buying 2 Amdy Fayes, or half a Boumsong or Luque [or even the full crap version]. No, it would only impact if they spent it extremely well, such as buying Craig Bellamy back! Token gesture??? I think it's the least he can offer considering the fucking mess his actions have left us in! Besides, I'm not (and I presume Gemmill isn't either) talking about them using the dividend to buy more players, he should use it to pay Souness off and get a decent manager in!

Whoever he is, he can quote better than Craig can 85284[/snapback] Thank you boss!

I don't, but considering we have played in the Champions League 2nd phase, and the top 5 3 times, and been the 3rd top spenders in the country in the last decade, how you consider him to be a total failure is ludicrous. Managing to overlook the fact that the CL qualification criteria is somewhat different these days to what it was prior to Shepherd being Chairman... were you happy with Dalglish at the time. Also - SJH was the biggest shareholder, so I don't believe he wasn't happy himself with Dalglish or he would have vetoed it I've answered the question about Dalglish before. I had no opinion of him when he was appointed, I prefer to see how they get on in the job before passing judgement. But for the record, I recall wanting them to appoint Robson as I trusted SJH's judgement. Was widely known that Hall wanted Robson but Shepherd and deadly Doug got their own way! so what ? you know this, everyone else does it, you know this too, if you don't like it don't buy anything. Fancy gloryfying NOTW gutter press when you knock The Sun when it suits you - I hope I don't see you taking the piss out of the tabloids in future .... I simply don't understand why people keep thinking things like this, effect what happens on the pitch, which is what matters. not the point, we all know it happens, but why's he feel the need to boast about it? were you happy he sacked Gullit, or not ? As it was "the worst possible point" [seeing as you didn't answer earlier For starters, he didn't sack Gullit, he asked him to resign. Secondly, it wasn't the "worst possible point" back in 1999 as the current transfer window policy didn't exist! I answered this earlier, I'm still waiting for a reply to that too You pointed out that it was ambition I seem to recall? I'd much preferred him to have got his head out of the clouds and concentrate on buying what we needed (a Woodgate replacement). Instead we went 6 months without one and even now we haven't replaced him IMO.

Quite how anyone can contemplate going out of the house having not had a shower in the morning is beyond me.... The bath/shower the night before don't wash with me (s'cuse the pun). Hours of sleeping under a duvet lead people to sweat like a bastard. There's plenty of people here who obviously don't shower in a morning - you can smell them a mile off!

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I really hope that line doesn't come back to haunt us I'd have said there's no way Man Utd wouldn't have beaten Burton first time out, but they didn't... 85139[/snapback] There's no way Man United were going to lose to Burton. We might very well draw this weekend (0-0) but they won't beat us. I'm willing to stick £50 on that with you if you want? 85145[/snapback] Nope, I never said we'll definitely lose, I'm just not confident enough to say that we definitely won't... 85149[/snapback] I am. Put your money where your mouth should be 85150[/snapback] Get on the phone to Bill Hill then!

I really hope that line doesn't come back to haunt us I'd have said there's no way Man Utd wouldn't have beaten Burton first time out, but they didn't... 85139[/snapback] There's no way Man United were going to lose to Burton. We might very well draw this weekend (0-0) but they won't beat us. I'm willing to stick £50 on that with you if you want? 85145[/snapback] Nope, I never said we'll definitely lose, I'm just not confident enough to say that we definitely won't...

I'd much rather have Ericksson over O'Neill, like... It's all long-ball stuff from MoN, much like we're being subjected to now....

I really hope that line doesn't come back to haunt us I'd have said there's no way Man Utd wouldn't have beaten Burton first time out, but they didn't...

Have pointed out several times the decisions Shepherd has made which has set us into decline. Yet you conveniently overlook these.... As has been pointed out, Look at where we are now compared to where we were when Shepherd took over. How you consider him to be a success is ludicrous! Shepherd: - was the force behind the Dalglish appointment when SJH actually wanted Robson - openly admitted that the club were ripping off the fans - sacked Robson at the worst possible point in a season with no idea who was to replace him. - Made a ridiculous bid for Rooney which wasted time and effort that should have been spent finding a suitable replacement for Woodgate - appointed Souness - continuing to this day to support Graeme Souness I totally agree with what Gemmill says, for him to regain any dignity, he (and the rest of them in the boardroom) should forego their dividend for this year to pay Souness off and get us out of the horrid mess he got us into in the first place!

You using that as a reason to scrub him off the list? Mrs Mourinho is no stunner like....

Notice that SMO conveniently avoids pointing out what time 'the wild thing' commences.... 6.58am?

Nope. but come on, a clean sheet?

1. Wake up at 5.30 2. Get up, have a piss, then shower 3. 5.45 shave 4. 5.50 get dressed 5. 5.55 make a cuppa, sit down to watch news 6. 6.10 leave house, get to work around 7.00

Fucking hell, he reckons we won't conceed!

Think that's what O-N was referring to. As soon as I read "The Scum", I though it was the Sun and had a butchers on their website. Found nothing... Saw that the express were running with it from the BBC gossip page.

not a chance mate, I know I'm right .... just like about Luque ... and Kluivert ... and Souness ... and Bellamy 84818[/snapback] Kluivert and Luque are rumoured to be Shepherd signings. 84822[/snapback] no chance 84831[/snapback] You 'know' this, I take it 84833[/snapback] Does he shite....but it'd destroy his argument if he didn't say that!

for about the hundredth time Alex, one bad appointment doesn't make a bad chairman ..... Are Liverpool a bad board for appointing Souness ? A straight answer from all of you will suffice, yes or no 84796[/snapback] Exactly. Pointing at chairmen of clubs that make no money and comparing Shepherd to them is ridiculous. 84750[/snapback] So how come othe big clubs don't tap their fanbases so well as us ? A straight answer will do 84797[/snapback] I love the way you keep finishing off with "a straight yes/no will do" Leazes.... You know damned well that there is a lot more to it. And comparing Shepherd with some other selected chairman and our previous 'efforts' does not excuse him from being shite...

Sounds good to me - I reckon we should get a game organised. Would give me a good excuse for getting back home as well!

Perhaps we should make up a joint team with Skunkers Incidentally I see they've had to start again and they're already having a dig at 'the other place': http://www.skunkers.net/reunited/showthread.php?t=8

Any truth in the rumour McKay is sitting in Paul Stretford's old office?

More apt, less lucrative. 84758[/snapback] agreed... But Celtic?? What fucking connection does he have with Celtic?

because it is THE single most important thing. The best manager in the world won't do anything without money. 84737[/snapback] I re-iterate: No-one has questioned Shepherd's financial input. But: - Sacking Robson 2 days before the transfer window closes and without a contingency. - Bidding for Rooney with the money we got for Woodgate when we desperately needed a quality central defender - Appointing Souness have all had a detrimental effect on the fortunes of this club. Had he sacked Robson having properly planned a replacement (as Chelsea and Liverpool did), then we wouldn't have had to 'make-do' with Souness and I doubt very much we'd be in the position we are now... As I've said before, handing over the reddies is only a small part of the responsiblity of a club chairman and in him doing so, it doesn't excuse all the other fuck-ups (which far exceed the positives) he makes.

Wouldn't it have been more apt against a select XI of players he's played alongside over the years?

No-one's ever questioned Shepherd's backing of his managers.... It's everything else they question... Why do you focus on the only positive about Shepherd?