Papa Lazaru

Really i think it should only happen if we can shove a game of 5-a-side in there somewhere again. Then my fintess workouts will shoot from once a year to twice!!!

But you were right! Why do all cockneys have an inability to pronounce 'TH' as anything other than 'F' the fick bastards!

Better than artists who mime! And remember he is a pensioner these days, he's doing well to remember his name, never mind where he is and the words to songs!

We all know you photoshopped them before you posted them, to change your ginger locks into platinum blond

It doesn't rain in bars, you do know that don't you ?? Not much choice on Sky movies the nite unless your a Star Wars freak... may have to hoy The Goonies on I think.. 191636[/snapback] I couldn't resist watching Goonies when it was on today, but as usual the dicks in charge of TV output cut it to bits for censorship as they alwasy do. So most of the stuff with Mouth translating into Spanish was gone, and chunk with the stiff as well as other bits here and there that you could tell had been missed out or dubbed out.

I always liked him. Yes there was a positional issue which i hope Roeder will work on, but he was fast, tough, good tackler, good in the air for his height and good going forward, plus he got hit and fouled more than any toon player i've seen and always got on with it. It seems since he left us he's went way downhill and i hope we don't see that player, but i'm more than willing to give him a chance. He'll offer more than Baba who seems half asleep during games at times and who is picking up injuries every match now and at least its compettiton for both of them which you always need. Though of course i'm pissed of with the club for not having made a batter job of getting Bridge or another proven class LB in good current form.

You can't beat Mitchell when he's in his pompous rant mode and i don't mean he's actually pompous, just good at playign the role and very funny with it. Particularly when he said that woman "living on light and air" should stop lying to people, stop being stupid and FUCK OFF!!!" Alexander Armstrong was always a good host on Have i got news for you so its in safe hands if you like. Don't think it'll be a classic but worth watching every week

How about we employ somebody under any title you like, DOF, Chief executive etc. and they take every single responisbilty Shepherd has from him and he just sits and eats pies?

Its blatantly because it was Arse and Chelski and really its not that much common sense. Give them 10 minutes, next time somebody says well you did that we need 15, then the next lot say 20 and sooner or later its a day and eventually you have no window...actually thats a good idea, go with it! But the point of deadlines is they are a deadline and the second you go over them you have to for everybody and theres no point in having one. On the issue of players being booked for waving imaginary cards, it sounds great but refs have always been able to book you for that and are either too thick, useless or gutless to do it when it should be soemthing they stamped out years ago.

And Kuyt 191321[/snapback] Roeder will take this chance to scout him no doubt. 191361[/snapback] We should probably take a look at that Bellamy guy as well, sounds like a hell of a player. I expect Bellamy will have a field day to be honest and Kuyt looked impressive on his debut so hope the two of them aren't playing!

You keep saying that but its not exactly the truth is it. Firstly he made the mistake of not sacking SBR when he should and then sacking him early in the season with no back up plan. Thats two mistakes already. He then didn't make a bad appointment, he made THE worst appointment possible which is more than just a little mistake. He made two further mistakes in paying Blackburn compensation instead of waiting for them to sack him and secondly giving him a massive contract worth a fortune which has cost us millions. And he didn't "just correct it" at all. He hired him, watched a truly awful season, including several key incidents that showed Souness to be worse than we thought possible and he failed to sack him when to do anything other than that was moronic. He then gave a man who had shown himself to be grossly incompetent, money to spend pre-season (another mistake) and having watched yet more shite from Souness' team he still failed to sack him even though we were a complete embarassment (another mistake). Then finally and way too late he eventually made the right decision and sacked him, but again had no plan in place even though he'd been watching shite for months and should have had the forsight to get something lined up. From when Bobby should have left to the current day, Fred has made a string of mistakes not just one. We've already pointed out that us and Liverpool were practically identical not long ago and the different actions of their board and ours as seen the two clubs worlds apart now. 190983[/snapback] Maybe he was listening to Craig or Gemmill when he kept him on There is nothing wrong with Newcastle United that the right manager won't put right quickly, people on the board are saying that it is the biggest single factor in the fortunes of a football club. And they are right. And yet - defining "failure" and success can't be dependent on solely the winning of one of only 2 domestic trophies, that means 90 teams are "failures", which is absurd. YOU will be aware of the change in the club since 1992, the situation has changed from one of dreaming of winning a trophy, to one of being massively pissed off that we haven't. Raised expectations, they have at least achieved this, and I have NEVER said they are perfect, I have ALWAYS said they have made mistakes but have done well and finding someone better will be far from easy. YOU will see this point, but I know others won't. 191005[/snapback] I agree the right manager could do well at NUFC and do so quickly, but my problem is i don't see Shepherd getting the right man anytime soon. And i've never seen trophies as the only guide to success because as you say theres only 3 domestic ones available! Mind you i long since gave up on us winning a trophy as whether we are good, bad or indifferent this club is cursed never to win anything!!! But with the money we have available to compete with the top teams i'd expect to do better than we have myself! Because lets be honest i'd have moved Bobby on at the right time and not employed Souness so i'd be way ahead of the game by now

You keep saying that but its not exactly the truth is it. Firstly he made the mistake of not sacking SBR when he should and then sacking him early in the season with no back up plan. Thats two mistakes already. He then didn't make a bad appointment, he made THE worst appointment possible which is more than just a little mistake. He made two further mistakes in paying Blackburn compensation instead of waiting for them to sack him and secondly giving him a massive contract worth a fortune which has cost us millions. And he didn't "just correct it" at all. He hired him, watched a truly awful season, including several key incidents that showed Souness to be worse than we thought possible and he failed to sack him when to do anything other than that was moronic. He then gave a man who had shown himself to be grossly incompetent, money to spend pre-season (another mistake) and having watched yet more shite from Souness' team he still failed to sack him even though we were a complete embarassment (another mistake). Then finally and way too late he eventually made the right decision and sacked him, but again had no plan in place even though he'd been watching shite for months and should have had the forsight to get something lined up. From when Bobby should have left to the current day, Fred has made a string of mistakes not just one. We've already pointed out that us and Liverpool were practically identical not long ago and the different actions of their board and ours as seen the two clubs worlds apart now.

Bump for LM 190921[/snapback] There are reasons why Dalglish and Gullit "failed", which were their own responsibility. They have both praised the board and admitted they were given every support they could have wanted. Do you purposely ignore this ? And - just think on FA Cup Final day - twice - under these managers, 90 other sets of supporters would have swapped places with us, yet you call it "failure". The ironic thing - is Martin O'Neill has never reached an FA Cup Final, yet is deemed to be a "big manager". 190922[/snapback] Cloughy never won it and people think he was too 190930[/snapback] Cloughie assaulted fans though, so he'd have to have been sacked!

As you say, even if we are the 5th best club, its included some great big swings between great and shite. But if we are 5th best in terms of overall consistency etc. then i'd expect nothing less and a bit more tbh since we have the second biggest crowds and have moiney available most other clubs would dream of (until the likes of Abramovic turned up) With the resources Fat Fred has had available being the 5th best club would be a minimum requirement.

We'd better not be or we won't be able to use the world class players we brought in during the transfer window like Sibierski!

possibly not, but with a smalll squad, and having already shelled out 15-16m quid. Thats the point. We knew, or should have done, that the Souness legacy was this, or at least some of us said so. We would be better off if Bellamy and Robert were still here, agreed ? And considering he wanted them out so desperately we got 4m quid for the 2 of them, who can possibly defend THAT ? 189826[/snapback] You do understand the Chairmen has to OK all sales right. Souness didn't do it behind the fat ones back. 189832[/snapback] you do understand that chairman are supposed to allow their managers to run the playing side of the club, right ? So, if he DID veto any transfers on playing grounds, which appears to be what you are indicating you want, you would have a lot to say wouldn't you ? Seriously, I have my doubts, it seems the vast amount of people on here don't seem to understand this ..... nor the financial state of the club, mostly brought about by the last manager, despite it being as clear as the glass in front of your face. 190603[/snapback] In any business it is commonplace for the head of the business to have final say on major investments. In some cases that investment is their idea. In others not.Responsible management dictates that this has to happen. Responsible chairmen also employ responsible and well qualified staff. That is their duty, not only to the business but to the shareholders. He has failed on both counts. I accept he needs to give managers the ability to decide but he has gone into this issue far too recklessly and it is absolutely nobodies fault bit his own that the 'bottomless pit' is no more. 190614[/snapback] He hasn't failed. We have been the 5th top club in the country over the past decade, and appeared regularly in europe, filling the ground, and buying major international players. There are 86 clubs who have done worse than us, including one 12 miles down the road. Since this board took over this club in 1992 they have picked it up and established it back to one of the top clubs in the country. Fact. I'm not interested in stupid skyboy type views. 190671[/snapback] Read it again please. His responsibility is to emply decent people. So now you are saying Souness wasnt a failure and telling Bobby he had one year left wasnt crass management precipitating the shit we are in now?Liverpool were as badly off as us but took decisive action. He had the chance ot address that earlier in the year and failed. Freddie didnt take decisive action at all other than in telling Bobby he could piss off and if that isnt mismanagement I dont know what is. 190712[/snapback] This is what i've always said and is the perfect yarstick by which to judge Fat Fred. Us and Pool were practically identical in terms of league position, performance over recent seasons, and swap Gerard from there to here and we'd have been safely ahead of them... Their chairman did his job, sacked a manager (who'd won more than ours) at the right time and scoured europe for a world class coach and gave him a pre season to work with and they're now leagues ahead of us. Our chairman kept a manager who was now past it, then hamstrung him with his moronic comment in the press, then sacked him with no backup plan. Then made the worst appointment i think i've ever seen, including paying Blackburn for a manager they were about to sack. Then kept this dick on after a season of abject shite, then kept him on again when he started shite, then gave him milions to waste, then sacked him with wait for it...no back up plan! Anyone who looks at Pool and us now and doesn't blame Fat Fred is Fat Fred!

5th best ball in the country though

Can't see where I am being blinkered, in fact I think the majority of people on here who seem either oblivious to the financial position of the club - through a lack of intelligence or just because they are deluded enough to think we can just spend what we like - are the blinkered ones. And for what its worth, as a squad player for a small fee Sibierski is alright - bearing in mind again our budget - whereas my main worry is Martins because if he flops, that is another 10m quid down the plug, and this is the type of signing who has created the position that we are in now ie Luque, Boumsong, and many others before those over previous years. 190617[/snapback] Nobody is oblivious to the financial position of the club. Nobody is saying we only spent £15m, why not more. What we're saying is, why not spend the £15m more prudently? That's a question Freddy Shepherd should be asking too. But prudent spending robs him of his Hollywood signings and requires him to actually put some hard graft in helping his manager to establish a transfer plan. Why do that when you can fly by the seat of your pants and then just say "One thing you can't level at us is that we're boring." He actually thinks that this is an asset of ours ffs!? 190624[/snapback] Ok Gem, we'll go and buy 7 x 2m pound players, and see where that gets you, if you dont' want "hollywood" signings .... plenty of those over at the SOS mate. 190675[/snapback] Sorin, Campbell, Trabelsi, Roberts - that's £2.5m for ya. Leazes, seeing that we're the 5th best club in the country, would anything less than 5th this season be seen as a failure of Freddie, or of Roeder? 190692[/snapback] Souness surely?

5th best pies since 1992, blah, blah, blah... 190679[/snapback] Well be fair, if Fred is going to make anything a priority its going to be pies!

I did too but then having seen a fan lobbed into the East Stand paddock by the old bill with half his face hanging off, I didn't really want to watch any more tbh 190599[/snapback] You could smell the trouble that night, I was well up for it, but my faffa thought a 10 year old midget wasn't really going to do much damage, except to myself. 190605[/snapback] I was about 20 and it was the first time I left of my own volition early. It was a wise move too. I had left- weirdly enough from the same part of the ground where I have only ever stood 3 times - whilst seeing Chester beating us when me fatha dragged me out of the crowd for my first use of the C word there 190621[/snapback] First time i ever left a match early as my dad decided it best after the second goal went in to make an early exit to avoid trouble. My dad never took me home for use (often repeated) of the c-word though

Ah its been a while since these arguments did the rounds for a good 20 or so pages! It really doesn't need to either. Practically anyone on here (indeed anyone with a brain) acknowledges Souness was one of the biggest disaters to ever hit this club and we are still about 2 years backwards because of him at least. And we all know Fat Fred hired him when everybody else said no and kept him on after a shite first season (including many high profile and obvious fuck ups), kept him on after a the shitness continued, kept him on past the transfer deadline and backed a man who was destroying the club with millions, only to then finally sack him way too late. So the people on this thread who blame Fat Fred are right and the people (well lets be honest, person) who blames Souness is blaming Fat Fred but just won't admit it. So heres to another 20 pages!

.co.uk says it's a full transfer for a fee. 189397[/snapback] 3 training shirts and some nets I hope. 189404[/snapback] I don't know, i think City should have offered us more than that to take him!

Its going to be very interesting to see the absolute shite Anal Oliver can spin over this mess in tomorrows chronicle!

Thats ok then, for a minute i thought it was a shite deal!

189365[/snapback] We've obviously decided that we needed something to take attention away from the embarassment of the Milner situation and this will do that!