David Kelly

Yet he still looked a lot better than Doumbia!

Doumbia has looked pretty dreadful on the couple of occasions he's actually touched the ball.

Have you not watched us these last three years?

In tv2 it's ws15

Only watched ten minutes of it and we look poor against an average Norwegian team in pre season. Only a friendly but it's far from positive.

It's on operation robocop. If anyone wants to watch it. Good quality too. I've only just found it but the half time stats show we've managed one shot

Started going tits up very quickly though. Still not worked out the difference between positive and reckless. I don't mind Knight (I think all of the sky England comentators are good actually) but he's probably the weakest of the lot.

You bothered to sign up on this board for that?

The fact that I now don't know what is going to happen in the series actually excites me. The last two seasons I've known pretty much everything that was going to happen and that has spoilled the show a bit for me. If they were just going to go right along the same story as the books then this coming season would be a massive spoiler for Winds of Winter. GRRM has said this season will contain some spoilers for the book but also that they are diverging in some areas. At least that means when the book comes out (finally) we won't know which bits are spoilers and which bits are show only. It's not perfect but unfortunately it's what we're left with because of his writing speed.

I don't disagree with most of what you're saying other than he's not really any more deserving of the crown than anyone else. As you say in the history of Westerous, as well in real life, many dynasty's have been deposed. The Baratheons despossed the Targaryians (who had deposed the more regional kings before that, including the Starks) so if you're going on lineage you could argue just about any of the major houses (as well as a fair few minor ones) have as much right as the other. Stannis believes that he's right and in that sense his quest is more honorable than Renley's or Balons or arguably even Robbs (although Robb was standing up for his people rather than having any desire for power). But Joffrey and Tommen both believe(d) that they are Roberts heirs so from their point of view their claims are just as just. Of course Tywin and Cersei knew the truth so their motives were all about power but not everyone who fought on their side had that knowledge. At the end of the day for me, it's not about who has the right to have the throne it's about the battles (both military and political) that happen on the way to get there. Clearly Jon and Denerys are the heroes of the story but of course a lot of peole root for the bad guy. I'd be very happy to see Petyr, Varys, Bronn or Stannis on the throne as much as those two. Stannis also employed Mel to create shaddow deamons to kill Renly and Ser Courtnay Penrose (yes I had to look that one up), he's murdered his own wives family and tried to kill his own bastard nephew. There's nothing honourable about any of those acts for me. Stannis is a flawed character in the books and in the show. He's one I do like but I suppose since he's not a POV character I don't really feel for him any more than I do for any of the others. From the books alone I think i'd have to be rooting for one of the POV characters but the show has made a lot more of the non pov characters. For all the complaints of character assination of Stannis, the show brings out more of him for me. As it does with Bronn, Littlefinger, Varys, Osha etc. Of course I watched the first two seasons before I started the books so I'm no doubt clouded by that. As I say though, I'm much more interested in the journey than who ends up on the throne. Personally my favourite characters from the books are probably now Theon and Jamie. They have had the most interesting journeys to where they have reached as charcters.

I seem to remember there is a Trakt addon. I think you'll already have it in a repository you already have (it might even be the official Kodi rep). I gave up with Salts too. I didn't find that it worked that well for library or anything tbh. Specto works spot on for the library function. But Exodus seems already to be the best addon there is for quality streams. Everyone I've tried has worked first time in HD.

I just had a quick google after I posted that and found an article on the telegraph site it basically said the worst that could happen to you streaming is getting a virus so I'm guessing there's no actual law in place against it. I have no morals given the amount of money that is made by people in the entertainment or football industries. And anyway I still pay for a season ticket, virgin, cinema tickets and DVDs/bluray. I fully understand your reasoning and have no problem with it. I also can't understand why anyone would want to spoil anything for anyone else. But I just think it's unrealistic to expect others to even consider that they would be spoiling anything for anyone so long after the fact. Now you've said you've not watched it I'll happily refrain from saying anything that could spoil it for you. But I wouldn't have thought about it otherwise.

I don't think it's actually illegal to watch streams anyway is it? The illegal bit putting the streams up.

I admit I don't like the Shireen bit and I don't really see the reason for them going that way in the show. I don't really see it as a change of character for him, it was just a desperate move that he looked like he immediately regretted. I'm not convinced he's dead yet and if he is, I would say it's one of the worst bits of TV or film writiing I've seen. We didn't actually see him die and you don't kill off a main character off screen. I know GRRM mentioned in passing in his blog that he wrote about not finishing WOW in time for the show, that Stannis is dead but I'm still not convinced. But if he is dead, I wouldn't really see a problem with Brienne killing him. She certainly had good motive and she's a very capable warrior. Stannis is well renound as being a great general but I can't remember hearing anything about his hand to hand combat skills. Robert was main warrior in the family. His military skills admittedly weren't well shown up in the last season though. I still don't see it as a character assasination though. They may not value his part of the story as much as some but I just think the whole hatred stuff that gets peddled is way overboard. His character has not majorly changed. He burned people in the books (ok not his daughter but his wives family) too. He's really not a good guy when it comes down to it. But then again who in ASOIAF is? I agree the Dorne bits so far have been poor. But arguably Tyrions bits have been better than his travelogue in the books. Although I can't understand why Jon Connington and Aegon have been omitted. I think it's clear that D&D do love him. But that love doesn't always serve him well as they've made him a bit too nice in the show. I know GRRM has said they are going to be spoilers for book readers in the next season which is a shame, but they are also going to go off in their own direction in some areas. Given that they are going past the books now, I think that's the best thing they can do.

Good man.

The messages he sent seem to be the only other evidence and those could be taken as just backing up what he admitted to (ie kissing and touching).

Can you integrate your trakt account with the library function? If not I can't really see the advantage of using it over IMDB.

I would guess that would depend on whether or not they have any flexibility on their boundries. If there's no definitive precedent on the sentence for the crimes he's admitted to then the judge may have a certain level of discretion to pass one sentence or another. But if there's a specific level that hasn't been met a judge can't just impose a higher sentence or it will just be overturrned on appeal.

I've not quite worked out Trakt yet. It doesn't seem as good as using the IMDB function though.

No I have Virgin not sky so as you can't get Sky Atlantic on Virgin I have to use other methods to watch it. But that really is besides the point isn't. It's wrong to discuss specifics of episodes just after they air as you can accidently spoil it for someone. I've made the mistake before when I thought I was posting something inconseqential but on reflection it could have spoilt it for someone. But if you're not going to watch something for so long after it's release you're going to do well to avoid spoillers one way or the other. But you are right in that there is a specific thread for GOT so there really is no reason why the conversation should continue here regardless of whether what is discussed could be a spoiler or not.

Very true. That's why I suspect he will manage to avoid prison. Still seems a risky defence to me as it could alienate some of the jury. I'm not sure what other defence he can go with at this stage like. He's admitted he knew how old she was so the only thing left is to make them believe they didn't do what she says. With no physical evidence I don't see how anyone can know for certain who is telling the truth.

I support Gemmill's stance of not trying to spoil any show, film or book for anyone but when a program has been on nearly a year ago I don't really think anyone should have to second guess whether someone has seen it. I didn't start watching GOT until the third season was about to show and I'd picked up some spoilers by then but I just accepted that because it's not anyone elses fault that I was so far behind. I don't agree with what Haydnator is saying in general about Stannis and the show runners feelings for him. I've seen that levelled at them before and I don't buy it. He seems to be a character that a lot of book readers love (I'm not really one of them) and because some of his story/actions/lines haven't been quite the same in the show it's been taken that they hate him and want to destroy him. For me you're reading something into it that's not there. They've trimmed and changed things largely because they have to make a ten episode season work. Sometimes that means some of our (and I'm sure their) favourite bits get cut. There's nothing more too it than that. And there was no chance he was ever going on end up on the Iron Throne anyway. It's one of John Snow or dragon tits for me but I've never thought of it as particularly important anyway. Oh and they have to divert away from the books as they have no book to stick to at the minute. Winds of Winter isn't out yet and even if it was there's no chance A Dream Of Spring will be out by the time they would reach that part of the story (two years max I would say) as that's unlikely to hit book shelves this decade.

The Night Before. I like Joseph Gordon Levitt and Seth Rogan is decent but this was the epitome of average. Might have enjoyed it more if I'd watched it at Christmas but I doubt it. Michael Shannon was pretty good in it though.

Aye it seems excellent so far and you don't need debrid to get quality streams. I've managed to integrate it to an account on IMDB so I can set up a list of films I want to watch or TV I am watching so it not having the library integration that Gensis had is no issue.

That's us well and truly fucked. The auld fella had better get himself up to speed sharpish!