David Kelly

The Chronicle are reporting it as a done deal now.

Good footballer when he's fit. I guess we would have to wait til next year to see though.

That's about the only way I'd be happy with this deal. To sell a player who (if fit) guarantees 15-20 goals a season and replace him with one who struggles to get near double figures would be stupid.

...but soiling yourself at work is okay? Aye, I've done that loads of times

I would quite possibly cum in my pants right here at work is this comes off. Not that I'm in favour of signing injured players.

Are we going to by Viduka from ourselves? No, we are going to look at what players Boyo wouldn't mind seeing paying alongside each other next season. . Is that Rigters any good? I didn't see any of the u21's.

Are we going to by Viduka from ourselves? I do think Defoe could be a very good player for us but I would like to see us go all out and try and sign someone like Huntelaar. We would have more than £20m from the sales of those two in addition to the 'war chest' that Ashley is supposedly providing so we might as well aim high!

He started off at Forest under Clough about the same time as young Nigel was playing for them.

franz carr???????? i can only assume you talking about stephen?? Fortunately for you I'm not talking about Stephen or else I would have just said he is complete shite. Franz Carr was a very fast winger we had playing for us ten years or more ago now. He was a bit brain dead and his delivery didn't often match his approach play. But much better than that useless prick Carr who plays for us now. you can have steve whittaker from us for around 1.5 mill if you want....future scotland player...and it will save him going to the old firm fuckers along the mate I take fucking Forrest Whittaker ahead of that clown Carr.

franz carr???????? i can only assume you talking about stephen?? Fortunately for you I'm not talking about Stephen or else I would have just said he is complete shite. Franz Carr was a very fast winger we had playing for us ten years or more ago now. He was a bit brain dead and his delivery didn't often match his approach play. But much better than that useless prick Carr who plays for us now.

I guess Franz Carr is the nearest comparison we have to any recent players here but as Alex says his oppertunities have been so limited it's impossible to tell much.

He looked half decent on the couple of occasions I saw him, as Fish says he's fast as fuck. The general concensus seems to be that his crossing is often wayward. Gate's never even made the bench as far as I'm aware.

They sounded him out and he told them to fuck right off. Apparently the lad has is iq of more than single figures.

We're gonna have to see 9 or 10 additions never mind could be. As you say the squad was already paper thin if you take those two out we are left with; Keepers: Given, Harper, Krul - This is a satisfactory list if you ask me. Fullbacks: Nobby and Taylor - Neither of them fullbacks but I could see both of them being used at rightback on occasion. Centrebacks: Taylor, Rozenhal, Huntington, Edgar, Rammage - Rammage really shouldn't be anything more than 5th choice with Huntington and Edgar going out on loan to get some experience. Need two more in for my money. Wingers: Duff, N'Zogbia, Nobby, Milner & Dyer - Quantity wise we are covered here especially as Milner and Dyer can cover both flanks. Quality wise I'm not sure about any of them. Duff had an awfully first season here, N'Zogbia doesn't look like he wants to be here, Nobby is getting on, Milner despite being on of our best players last season still doesn't provide much and god knows where Dyer is best played. Centre Midfield: Barton, Butt, Emre & Dyer - Four experienced players who all have quality but the latter two especially haven't been very good lately. Hopefully Emre will be allowed to play further forward and actually create something for us. We could do with some more cover tbh and I would like to see someone who can unlock a few defences for us. Strikers: Owen, Martins, Viduka, Shola, Caroll - If we don't lose Owen or Martins then we have possibly our strongest ever looking four and hopefully Caroll can go out on loan to gain some experience. Dyer, Duff and probably Milner could all play there at a push too. The uncertainty surrounding Owen & Martins is a distraction we could do with out though, we don't want to get stung with someone coming in for either or both of them late on leaving us with no time for replacements.

I wouldn't be desperate to sell Martins, 17 goals (whoever they came against) in his first season is a good haul for a young (possibly) player coming into a different culture. Yes his touch and his passing are awful at times but I do believe we can see some improvement (he's never gonna be Zidane) with decent coaching. And with a decent team around him I'm sure he will do better. That said £13m would be a decent profit if he wants to leave and wouldn't be crying over it if we could get Anelka or someone else of that sort of quality in his place.

Think I would have had Roeder and Bramble leaving ahead of Carr. Well Roeder maybe for the good of the club but I really hate Carr more than either of them.

Wouldn't be the worst news if I'm honest. Although with Owen's departure inevitable some time in the next 12 months will have a big goals gap to fill.

This would surpass Roeder & Bramble leaving in terms of good news.

Will he cut it down here do think?

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.COM have him at the training ground. (Geremi the player not the porn star of vaugely similar name!)

Might as well keep this thread going as a chance to actually talk about the player instead of a porn star with a dodgy tash!

When you consider the amount of teams who also have 'new money' (us, Portsmouth, West Ham, Citeh, Villa) and how far back their squad is compared to those teams and the likes of Blackburn, Spurs, Everton, Reading, they will have have a lot to do if they want to do anything above the bottom five!

Pace isn't the be all and end all for a centreback (as long as you haven't got two playing who are both slow as fuck). Baresi was still one of the best centrebacks in the world long after he lost his pace.