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ah, what a shame Kevin. If you'd listened to mancmag and others like him a few years ago, you might have believed Mike Ashley was the real dogs bollocks. You should know about bollocks, you talk enough. Reality is the now not ten years ago. I bet ten years ago you could pull a half decent bird but now you make do with a wank. Ashley is our wank for now
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I know but I just want LM to give a simple answer to a simple question which he, for some reason, won't i'm not on here all day man FWIW, I stand by what I have always said. Replacing the Halls and Shepherd would be far more difficult than poor little embarrassed dears like mancmag predicted, it may be decades before someone buys the club and gives us Champions League football again. They saved the club from certain administration too, now there's a thought for the Leeds Utd doom-mongers who appear to prefer the Bob Murray/Mike Ashley model. The answer to your question is a no brainer. If the Halls and Shepherd had not sold the club, we would not have been relegated, and we would not be selling our best players and replacing them with freebies, loans and chancers. Oh, and Newcastle United are 10 times the club Leeds are, they would not have folded while they were 14th in footballs rich list. I think your optimism in Mike Ashley is touching, but fantastically misguided. So rich they hocked all the incoming sponsor money and the club was in massive debt. You are a bit off a bell end, if any club can't pay its debts they will go into administration. Newcastle,Leeds or Any other club. So in short you would rather run the club beyond its means with the hope of champions league football and if that fails then don't worry about the debt we are Nufc
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I know but I just want LM to give a simple answer to a simple question which he, for some reason, won't
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Unless we get a billionaire sugar daddy like Chelsea and City then whoever comes in may well have to run the club in the same way or we could get a Ridsdale who would mortgage the club within an inch of oblivion with the hope of champions league. Would you want to take that gamble?? I know Ashley has been a cunt and his appointments of Wise and Dekka have been very poor but we could end up worse off than we are. We are pretty safe this season and playing quite well, we also have 35m to spend in the summer so its not all doom and gloom Or we could have someone in the middle, which Ashley is more than capable of being, given his wealth. I don't see why it has to be one extreme or the other. Ashley doesn't have to run the club the way he is. It's a personal choice on his part. He`s running the club within its means not within his means. The club will never be in a financial mess with him in charge but he`s never gonna chuck cash at it for fun, he`s nowhere near Roman or Mansoor when it comes to wealth but he could chuck in 15-20 mil for a couple of good players I agree. Put yourself in his shoes tho`, you come to a game and get slated and called a fat cunt, your wife and kids see this?? Would you wanna put money in?? when he bought the club, most people thought he was the dogs bollocks just because he wasn't Fat Fred ? Laughable or what. Even more so, when he bought people pints in the Bigg Market and went home thinking how stupid all those Geordies were for being taken in by a blatant PR gimmick. He's done it all himself. So you would rather Fat Fred had hung onto the club?? Simple yes or no Fat Fred never owned the club in the first place mate. 'Fat Fred' is used as shorthand for the entire ownership of the departing regime. Would you prefer we were relying on their money now, bearing in mind they wouldnt have the proceeds of a sale at their disposal, theres no credit available these days, we were massively in debt, and John Hall's more arsed about his roses at the moment. Ok Leazes, so he wasn't the owner but he ran things, hired and fired etc. So again a simple yes or no, would you prefer it the club was never sold and was run by Fred?? Remember yes or no, if you can
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Unless we get a billionaire sugar daddy like Chelsea and City then whoever comes in may well have to run the club in the same way or we could get a Ridsdale who would mortgage the club within an inch of oblivion with the hope of champions league. Would you want to take that gamble?? I know Ashley has been a cunt and his appointments of Wise and Dekka have been very poor but we could end up worse off than we are. We are pretty safe this season and playing quite well, we also have 35m to spend in the summer so its not all doom and gloom Or we could have someone in the middle, which Ashley is more than capable of being, given his wealth. I don't see why it has to be one extreme or the other. Ashley doesn't have to run the club the way he is. It's a personal choice on his part. He`s running the club within its means not within his means. The club will never be in a financial mess with him in charge but he`s never gonna chuck cash at it for fun, he`s nowhere near Roman or Mansoor when it comes to wealth but he could chuck in 15-20 mil for a couple of good players I agree. Put yourself in his shoes tho`, you come to a game and get slated and called a fat cunt, your wife and kids see this?? Would you wanna put money in?? when he bought the club, most people thought he was the dogs bollocks just because he wasn't Fat Fred ? Laughable or what. Even more so, when he bought people pints in the Bigg Market and went home thinking how stupid all those Geordies were for being taken in by a blatant PR gimmick. He's done it all himself. So you would rather Fat Fred had hung onto the club?? Simple yes or no
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Unless we get a billionaire sugar daddy like Chelsea and City then whoever comes in may well have to run the club in the same way or we could get a Ridsdale who would mortgage the club within an inch of oblivion with the hope of champions league. Would you want to take that gamble?? I know Ashley has been a cunt and his appointments of Wise and Dekka have been very poor but we could end up worse off than we are. We are pretty safe this season and playing quite well, we also have 35m to spend in the summer so its not all doom and gloom Or we could have someone in the middle, which Ashley is more than capable of being, given his wealth. I don't see why it has to be one extreme or the other. Ashley doesn't have to run the club the way he is. It's a personal choice on his part. exactly. Ambition is a choice, but sadly a lot of people had got used to seeing it and thought it would be automatic. Alex's point is spot on fwiw. Sadly your actual desires are not reconcilable with having someone who is 'in the middle' so it's laughable that you quote it. You're basically endorsing the Ridsdale model in other posts ffs. He does but wont admit it
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Unless we get a billionaire sugar daddy like Chelsea and City then whoever comes in may well have to run the club in the same way or we could get a Ridsdale who would mortgage the club within an inch of oblivion with the hope of champions league. Would you want to take that gamble?? I know Ashley has been a cunt and his appointments of Wise and Dekka have been very poor but we could end up worse off than we are. We are pretty safe this season and playing quite well, we also have 35m to spend in the summer so its not all doom and gloom Or we could have someone in the middle, which Ashley is more than capable of being, given his wealth. I don't see why it has to be one extreme or the other. Ashley doesn't have to run the club the way he is. It's a personal choice on his part. He`s running the club within its means not within his means. The club will never be in a financial mess with him in charge but he`s never gonna chuck cash at it for fun, he`s nowhere near Roman or Mansoor when it comes to wealth but he could chuck in 15-20 mil for a couple of good players I agree. Put yourself in his shoes tho`, you come to a game and get slated and called a fat cunt, your wife and kids see this?? Would you wanna put money in??
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ah. There was a time when we said someone wasn't for sale and they weren't. In fact, nobody bothered trying to buy our best players because they knew they wouldn't be sold. Or because they were under-performing mercenaries? must be nice living in a make believe little world like you do Best players not for sale? Woodgate was our best defender and he was sold, so was Bellamy and Andy Cole wasnt too shabby either. Every player is for sale if the price is right. You think Man U wanted Ronaldo to go? If a player gets a whiff of more money and a better lifestyle or to play in the champions league then their head is turned and when a club makes a top offer then its bye-bye regardless who the manager/chairman is. The measure of the club is who replaces the sold player so we need to wait and see who comes in the summer. oh fucking hell. Do bugger off man. Footballers are always leaving clubs, everywhere, but the top clubs replace the odd quality player they lose with another of the same calibre in the managers opinion and allow him to continue to attempt to improve the team with the cash from the sales. This is kids stuff. How much longer does this need to be explained ? How many idiots are there in this world ? Thats what I said, It depends who the replacements are although in your book if we dont get Ronaldo,Tevez and Xavi then we are not ambitious enough. The reality is we are where we are at the moment and if we get players like Tiote or Jose who may have the ambition to play in the champions league or challenge for the title then thats the reality. Football has changed and we have no chance of top 4 even if we spend a fortune. We should aim for a top 6/7 spot and win a cup and play some European football in the Europa league. As long as those that leave are replaced with players who have something to offer and not just shite or so called big names then so be it. Or are you so deluded you think we should be spending 30mil on a player and 100k pw on wages?? your first line is bollocks. For starters, if we signed any one quality footballer, would Carroll have left, and would we be talking about the possibility of Enrique and Tiotte leaving ? My guess is both these players would be first in the queue to sign extended contracts. Secondly, no person turned their noses up when we signed the likes of Shearer, Ferdinand, Ginola, Woodgate, Speed, Dyer etc etc bleating on about the club heading towards administration. I agree that if the 35m quid is invested in footballers the manager decides will give us a better team than the one we had with Carroll in it, it should prompt a re-think about Mike Ashley and his ambitions for the club, but it won't. The waft of 80k per week was enough to tempt Carroll and if you think any signing would have convinced him to stay I would say you are wrong. As for Jose and Tiote, I said if they want to challenge for a title or play champions league, so Man U, Chelsea,City or Arsenal not to mention Spain,Italy etc. If any top clubs come in for ANY of our players then they will go if they want to and its up to Ashley to get a deal thats right for NUFC and to re invest it. I wasnt bleating when we had those players but no one had any idea how fucked the clubs finances were on the back of it all as for your final point, could I borrow your crystal ball please
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Unless we get a billionaire sugar daddy like Chelsea and City then whoever comes in may well have to run the club in the same way or we could get a Ridsdale who would mortgage the club within an inch of oblivion with the hope of champions league. Would you want to take that gamble?? I know Ashley has been a cunt and his appointments of Wise and Dekka have been very poor but we could end up worse off than we are. We are pretty safe this season and playing quite well, we also have 35m to spend in the summer so its not all doom and gloom
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Incontrovertibly. Last season we were in the championship, at the start of the season survival seemed the most we could hope for, by mid-season survival looks guaranteed. If we win on saturday, we will be looking to finish top half. That appears to be progress, whichever way you look at it. If you take 1996 as your starting point, then we have gone backwards. If you take relegation as the starting point, we've moved forward. You like facts, those are the barest of facts regarding the direction of the club. Of course, Carroll's sale is a clear step backwards but only if he goes on to fulfill his potential. If he doesnt, selling him wasnt a step backwards, it was a fucking good bit of business. Anyway, 10 steps forward and 1 step backwards is still 9 steps forward People have used the Carroll sale to come up with pretty far reaching conclusions about the future of the club, which is fair enough, it did wipe out the positivity from all the other things that were going right. However, if one player transaction defines a club then presumably everyone will change their mind if Enrique signs a new deal when we are mathematically safe? Would be interested in responses to this last part, as its clearly the one of the biggest uncertainties for the fans at the minute. Agree with this. Whatever the outcome of Carrolls future that was more than anyone would have dreamed of getting for him. The money needs to be invested wisely, no doubt about that, Carlton Cole for 10m isnt but I guess we just need to wait and see who comes in before passing judgment
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I like a trackie as it makes a manager seem more hands on but a suit for cup finals. Although I hear Pardews choice of suit is of the birthday variety
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ah. There was a time when we said someone wasn't for sale and they weren't. In fact, nobody bothered trying to buy our best players because they knew they wouldn't be sold. Or because they were under-performing mercenaries? must be nice living in a make believe little world like you do Best players not for sale? Woodgate was our best defender and he was sold, so was Bellamy and Andy Cole wasnt too shabby either. Every player is for sale if the price is right. You think Man U wanted Ronaldo to go? If a player gets a whiff of more money and a better lifestyle or to play in the champions league then their head is turned and when a club makes a top offer then its bye-bye regardless who the manager/chairman is. The measure of the club is who replaces the sold player so we need to wait and see who comes in the summer. oh fucking hell. Do bugger off man. Footballers are always leaving clubs, everywhere, but the top clubs replace the odd quality player they lose with another of the same calibre in the managers opinion and allow him to continue to attempt to improve the team with the cash from the sales. This is kids stuff. How much longer does this need to be explained ? How many idiots are there in this world ? Thats what I said, It depends who the replacements are although in your book if we dont get Ronaldo,Tevez and Xavi then we are not ambitious enough. The reality is we are where we are at the moment and if we get players like Tiote or Jose who may have the ambition to play in the champions league or challenge for the title then thats the reality. Football has changed and we have no chance of top 4 even if we spend a fortune. We should aim for a top 6/7 spot and win a cup and play some European football in the Europa league. As long as those that leave are replaced with players who have something to offer and not just shite or so called big names then so be it. Or are you so deluded you think we should be spending 30mil on a player and 100k pw on wages??
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ah. There was a time when we said someone wasn't for sale and they weren't. In fact, nobody bothered trying to buy our best players because they knew they wouldn't be sold. Or because they were under-performing mercenaries? must be nice living in a make believe little world like you do Best players not for sale? Woodgate was our best defender and he was sold, so was Bellamy and Andy Cole wasnt too shabby either. Every player is for sale if the price is right. You think Man U wanted Ronaldo to go? If a player gets a whiff of more money and a better lifestyle or to play in the champions league then their head is turned and when a club makes a top offer then its bye-bye regardless who the manager/chairman is. The measure of the club is who replaces the sold player so we need to wait and see who comes in the summer.
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Pardew: "I'll spend wisely in the summer".
jaythesouthernmag replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
I think most, if not all, our business will be done from foreign leagues to avoid over inflated prices.12m for Zog and 10m for Cole are prime examples. If we could get Zog for 5-6m I'd take him back but wouldn't touch Cole. Obina looks decent and I wouldn't mind O Hara if we do get anyone from the prem. -
Kuqi: I was terrified of making a sound
jaythesouthernmag replied to Meenzer's topic in Newcastle Forum
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Well if Tiote and Ben Arfa are the product of this then thats good enough for me. Would rather see this than spunking money(wages,fees etc) on some over the hill or over rated Billybigbollocks
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I would say a winger, a couple of strikers and full back cover is more pressing. Reckon we can get another season out of Harper and the kid at Celtic is doing well. Loan him out for another season then have him back here as number 1
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Old people who can hardly walk let alone drive. You see these doddery old cunts takes em ten minutes to walk from the shop to their car then off they go, oblivious to everything. They should have to do some kind of competancy test every year from being 70. I was driving into town last week, clear road doing 30mph when about 100 yards at a junction I spot an old girl and her even older hubby in their honda jazz(the chosen car of the doddery old bastards)so I slowed down. Good job I did as she just pulled out without even a glance to the right. As she accelerated to her maximum speed of 25mph(in a 50 zone) I overtook,gave her a toot and and a finger and I was on my way
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Krul is better than Harper, sure he tells himself that after Harps keeps another clean sheet. Like fuck is he better
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To break the top four you will need to spend mega bucks, Look at the spending power they have, even Spurs aint scared of splashing the cash. Say we had a £100m transfer kitty(not going to happen) and we kept our best players where do you think we could realisticaly finish??? I reckon top 6 but thats a hell of an investment for the Europa league. I hope these new financial rules will benefit clubs who dont have these sugar daddys with endless cash
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Twats who zoom up behind you on a duel carrigeway then flash their lights for you to move. That's always my cue to slow down and raise the middle finger out the back window. Wankers
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Every player has a price and if someone comes in with stupid money like they did for Carroll then its bye bye. If the money is re invested in the club then what's the problem?? Also if he wants to asset strip I'm sure he could have flogged Jose,Collo and Jonas by now
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Good to see Martins didn't score. Good,solid performance and another clean sheet. I really hope we hang on to our key players and keep the team spirit going into next season. Ben-Arfa back and a few more signings and we are looking good. Hope Ashley can see this tho and not just pound signs and before people start 25 mil for Carroll was fucking mental money, if we get that kind of offer for anyone then its not getting turned down but 10 mil for Chiek or Jose, now fuck off. Also I'm feeling the man love for Colo, looking like a class defender
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Glad the little twat got sparked out, what a cunt
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When he's starting to itch Pardews been at his bitch, Shefki Kuqi