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  1. commenting on north american politics? what qualifies you to do so?...... Like I said, you know nothing about me son. Nothing at all just wondering, as I am not allowed to comment on UK politics...btw, as you've never been to canada, where was it you came across "most canadians", the ones that are "plastic yanks"?
  2. commenting on north american politics? what qualifies you to do so?......
  3. Given the fact they weren't "being open and wearing uniforms in a proper battlefield" or whatever it is you say about Muslims then I'd say yes. they may have saved someone you know, or you, being murdered. I suppose your reply says everything. Further debate is pointless. Their actions may have caused a retribution from the terrorists which lead to someone being murdered. Your argument is weak as piss. bollocks. They were deservedly shot. Whatever any further consequences. You can't allow shitbags like that to do what they were planning. You don't deal with terrorists. You don't get it. If you deal with them, they see it as weakness and attempt to "bargain" further anyway. So you don't believe in escalation? . Terrorism doesn't work, it won't ever get the terrorists what they want. Neither does meeting violence with violenceThe only thing that works is moderation and if you don't see that, you're as much a zealot as the people you rail against. +1000000
  4. The liberal rubbish that forms the basis of the article on NK you Linked to? Because they have absolutely no history of lying do they? What would be your limits - how many people would they be allowed to kill before you said hang on there's something not quite right here - 10, 100 - a thousand - more? I know who the good guys are. The bad guys wouldn't let you post what you say about them. phew! what a relief, as long as YOU know..... coming from a yank wannabee .... i don't even understand your response....must be my percieved lack of real world experience, or your lack of geographical knowledge, of course it could be that you are an internet forum sooopa poster that reverts to what he knows best (name calling and the like) when his side of the argument breaks down. fact is ,either killing is bad or it isn't, it can't be ok for one side and not the other. either you're for it or you're not. i am against killing period. fact is LM you haven't a clue, in order to get one you'd need to open your eyes and your mind to the miriad of other cultures and points of view that exist on our planet....tbh i dont even know i'm wasting my effort with this. point is sunshine, you are a plastic yank coming on here trying to tell genuine lifelong supporters of the football club that have actively supported the club for anything between 20-45 years that you know better than we do. You also insist you know more about the politics of the UK more than the majority of posters who have lived here and always have done to go with it. You also are debating issues of National Security with me. You know fuck all about me, you know nothing of my backround or anything at all. You know nothing about my perception of the world, politics, cultures, how I have travelled. You know fuck all. What I do know about you though, is you are a plastic yank, like most Canadians. Like most Jocks who are English wannabees. You are the North American version of a mackem. Killing is bad, but sometimes it is justified. Don't bother preaching to me that the killing of cunts who have terrorist links or even cunts who have sympathies with those who do active terrorism within the civilised western world from their caves in the middle east isn't justified, because it is. Issues of National Security are basic common sense. You being a liberal minded tosspot, think you should be told certain things. But you should not. Certain things are highly confidential for a reason. If you don't agree then basically it's your tough luck. If you want to talk politics talk Canadian politics, not UK politics, because I for one don't give a shit what your opinions are of the UK if you have chosen not to live here and integrate into the community correctly. ...read the OP...we're talking about NORTH AMERICAN POLITICS.....i really don't give a shit about what you think of me. your reply just goes to show how completely deluded and cluesless you are and the rancor in it belies i may have hit a nerve , is it a fear of books? is that why you dont read? . bitter much. btw...killing is never justified deluded = Not at all. As I said, you know nothing about me. Hit a nerve = just showing you how to suck eggs. ....how about that OP...makes your rant seem, well in a word, demented. not really. You have no idea of the need for or basics of National Security. Your problem not mine. ...typical LM..."you just don't understand" response.
  5. You can say this and it's a fair point, but it is necessary for the intelligence services to do it, it is where modern communcations take place now. They don't put parcels and notes in holes in trees anymore. You know this Parky ? aye. Just adding a bit of homour to these anti-west rants this is the same tactic used in the middle east by israel, just because the policies are being questioned or disagreed with doesn't make them "anti-west" just as it isn't anti-semetic to say israel should get the fuck out of gaza. you can't uphold the rights and freedoms afforded to us in a democratic state by suspending them
  6. The liberal rubbish that forms the basis of the article on NK you Linked to? Because they have absolutely no history of lying do they? What would be your limits - how many people would they be allowed to kill before you said hang on there's something not quite right here - 10, 100 - a thousand - more? I know who the good guys are. The bad guys wouldn't let you post what you say about them. phew! what a relief, as long as YOU know..... coming from a yank wannabee .... i don't even understand your response....must be my percieved lack of real world experience, or your lack of geographical knowledge, of course it could be that you are an internet forum sooopa poster that reverts to what he knows best (name calling and the like) when his side of the argument breaks down. fact is ,either killing is bad or it isn't, it can't be ok for one side and not the other. either you're for it or you're not. i am against killing period. fact is LM you haven't a clue, in order to get one you'd need to open your eyes and your mind to the miriad of other cultures and points of view that exist on our planet....tbh i dont even know i'm wasting my effort with this. point is sunshine, you are a plastic yank coming on here trying to tell genuine lifelong supporters of the football club that have actively supported the club for anything between 20-45 years that you know better than we do. You also insist you know more about the politics of the UK more than the majority of posters who have lived here and always have done to go with it. You also are debating issues of National Security with me. You know fuck all about me, you know nothing of my backround or anything at all. You know nothing about my perception of the world, politics, cultures, how I have travelled. You know fuck all. What I do know about you though, is you are a plastic yank, like most Canadians. Like most Jocks who are English wannabees. You are the North American version of a mackem. Killing is bad, but sometimes it is justified. Don't bother preaching to me that the killing of cunts who have terrorist links or even cunts who have sympathies with those who do active terrorism within the civilised western world from their caves in the middle east isn't justified, because it is. Issues of National Security are basic common sense. You being a liberal minded tosspot, think you should be told certain things. But you should not. Certain things are highly confidential for a reason. If you don't agree then basically it's your tough luck. If you want to talk politics talk Canadian politics, not UK politics, because I for one don't give a shit what your opinions are of the UK if you have chosen not to live here and integrate into the community correctly. ...read the OP...we're talking about NORTH AMERICAN POLITICS.....i really don't give a shit about what you think of me. your reply just goes to show how completely deluded and cluesless you are and the rancor in it belies i may have hit a nerve , is it a fear of books? is that why you dont read? . bitter much. btw...killing is never justified deluded = Not at all. As I said, you know nothing about me. Hit a nerve = just showing you how to suck eggs. ....how about that OP...makes your rant seem, well in a word, demented.
  7. The liberal rubbish that forms the basis of the article on NK you Linked to? Because they have absolutely no history of lying do they? What would be your limits - how many people would they be allowed to kill before you said hang on there's something not quite right here - 10, 100 - a thousand - more? I know who the good guys are. The bad guys wouldn't let you post what you say about them. phew! what a relief, as long as YOU know..... coming from a yank wannabee .... i don't even understand your response....must be my percieved lack of real world experience, or your lack of geographical knowledge, of course it could be that you are an internet forum sooopa poster that reverts to what he knows best (name calling and the like) when his side of the argument breaks down. fact is ,either killing is bad or it isn't, it can't be ok for one side and not the other. either you're for it or you're not. i am against killing period. fact is LM you haven't a clue, in order to get one you'd need to open your eyes and your mind to the miriad of other cultures and points of view that exist on our planet....tbh i dont even know i'm wasting my effort with this. point is sunshine, you are a plastic yank coming on here trying to tell genuine lifelong supporters of the football club that have actively supported the club for anything between 20-45 years that you know better than we do. You also insist you know more about the politics of the UK more than the majority of posters who have lived here and always have done to go with it. You also are debating issues of National Security with me. You know fuck all about me, you know nothing of my backround or anything at all. You know nothing about my perception of the world, politics, cultures, how I have travelled. You know fuck all. What I do know about you though, is you are a plastic yank, like most Canadians. Like most Jocks who are English wannabees. You are the North American version of a mackem. Killing is bad, but sometimes it is justified. Don't bother preaching to me that the killing of cunts who have terrorist links or even cunts who have sympathies with those who do active terrorism within the civilised western world from their caves in the middle east isn't justified, because it is. Issues of National Security are basic common sense. You being a liberal minded tosspot, think you should be told certain things. But you should not. Certain things are highly confidential for a reason. If you don't agree then basically it's your tough luck. If you want to talk politics talk Canadian politics, not UK politics, because I for one don't give a shit what your opinions are of the UK if you have chosen not to live here and integrate into the community correctly. ...read the OP...we're talking about NORTH AMERICAN POLITICS.....i really don't give a shit about what you think of me. your reply just goes to show how completely deluded and cluesless you are and the rancor in it belies i may have hit a nerve , is it a fear of books? is that why you dont read? . bitter much. btw...killing is never justified
  8. The liberal rubbish that forms the basis of the article on NK you Linked to? Because they have absolutely no history of lying do they? What would be your limits - how many people would they be allowed to kill before you said hang on there's something not quite right here - 10, 100 - a thousand - more? I know who the good guys are. The bad guys wouldn't let you post what you say about them. phew! what a relief, as long as YOU know..... coming from a yank wannabee .... i don't even understand your response....must be my percieved lack of real world experience, or your lack of geographical knowledge, of course it could be that you are an internet forum sooopa poster that reverts to what he knows best (name calling and the like) when his side of the argument breaks down. fact is ,either killing is bad or it isn't, it can't be ok for one side and not the other. either you're for it or you're not. i am against killing period. fact is LM you haven't a clue, in order to get one you'd need to open your eyes and your mind to the miriad of other cultures and points of view that exist on our planet....tbh i dont even know i'm wasting my effort with this.
  9. just because you don't get it doesn't mean its shit.
  10. The liberal rubbish that forms the basis of the article on NK you Linked to? Because they have absolutely no history of lying do they? What would be your limits - how many people would they be allowed to kill before you said hang on there's something not quite right here - 10, 100 - a thousand - more? I know who the good guys are. The bad guys wouldn't let you post what you say about them. phew! what a relief, as long as YOU know.....
  11. quite right too. If there is a reason to do with National Security, then that comes first. OH FUCK...here we go.... you think otherwise leftie boy ? National security is an important thing lad. Shame you appear to think otherwise. especially when it quashes the rights and freedoms we are trying to protect..... ....leftie boy.... no. It is National security.Don't you trust him ? speaking in tongues now...clearly lost the plot oh dear. maybe of you read something it might help....try the declaration of independance and the associated amendments to it Forget it son. I realise that you liberal-minded people think they should tell you and you're naturally inquisitive [or just nosey bastards] and envious you aren't privy to it, but the point is that someone has decided there is an issue of National Security in there somewhere, and like it or not, for that reason they quite rightly aren't going to tell you what it is. Basic stuff.
  12. quite right too. If there is a reason to do with National Security, then that comes first. OH FUCK...here we go.... you think otherwise leftie boy ? National security is an important thing lad. Shame you appear to think otherwise. especially when it quashes the rights and freedoms we are trying to protect..... ....leftie boy.... no. It is National security.Don't you trust him ? speaking in tongues now...clearly lost the plot oh dear. maybe of you read something it might help....try the declaration of independance and the associated amendments to it
  13. quite right too. If there is a reason to do with National Security, then that comes first. OH FUCK...here we go.... you think otherwise leftie boy ? National security is an important thing lad. Shame you appear to think otherwise. especially when it quashes the rights and freedoms we are trying to protect..... ....leftie boy.... no. It is National security.Don't you trust him ? speaking in tongues now...clearly lost the plot
  14. quite right too. If there is a reason to do with National Security, then that comes first. OH FUCK...here we go.... you think otherwise leftie boy ? National security is an important thing lad. Shame you appear to think otherwise. especially when it quashes the rights and freedoms we are trying to protect..... ....leftie boy....
  15. quite right too. If there is a reason to do with National Security, then that comes first. OH FUCK...here we go....
  16. if you can't laugh at yerself who can you laugh at?
  17. Arry squirming in the dugout. especially after he called out Wenger for playing kids
  18. 108' We are in the second half of extra time now and Arsenal's fans are cheering every pass. This is painful for the few Spurs fans that remain. hehehehehe....fairweather fans
  19. i think you're a Mackem....don't let the door hit you on the way out.
  20. "it" is what keeps the BC economy from collapsing, forestry's in the toilet, mining is starting to come back and they have a moratorium on offshore oil and gas exploration....they (the RCMP) estimate (conservatively mind you) that the underground economy accounts for 2 billion dollars a year. as for me, as typical as I can be I suppose I usually dont smoke the stuff unless I'm partying or skiing, helps me forget how painful my skiboots are.
  21. warmer climate?...nope it'll pretty much grow anywhere, need to get it away from that fence though they like lots of light, looks healthy enough for a transplant as well. bring it inside and nurture it, christmas doobies perhaps? also, treat it like a tomato plant, get rid of all the extra leaves and focus all the energy to the tomato/bud sites when they form.
  22. I LIKE IT! http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://...1t:429,r:11,s:0 my goal for next summer is to have climbed this.
  23. why do you keep trying to justify Islam by quoting other religions ? Fact is, NOW, they are racist, backward, intolerant, fanatically dangerous to others who have different views, and responsible for most of the terrorist activity in the world. all of them? or is it just a vocal minority? much like the dumb ass preacher that had a hankerin for a Burnin.
  24. tooner

    In America

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_...American_adults Total christianity down 10% in the US in just 18 years. People with no religion up almost 7%. The growth in evangelism is just 0.6% Really? Genuinely never heard of any of that happening. Clutching at straws here HF. If you don't believe me about Mecca then I suggest you book a holiday there and see how it turns out. I appreciate that Saudis represent one of the more extreme sects (Wahhabism) but they have a central role in International Islam. Also, let's not forget how extreme the other branch of Islam - the Shiites - can be, as witnessed right now in the high profile Iranian case where a women may be stoned to death for the grevious sin of infedility. Are you being devil's advocate here or can you genuinely not see a difference? And not that I need state it surely, but I am no defender of Christianity any way, shape, or form. It's definitely a more tolerant faith though, which is reflected in the cultural values of the countries it has been adopted in. I wasn't saying I didn't believe you about . That's why I said 'genuinely'. Perhaps there is an element of devils advocate, but I genuinely think it's a question of development isn't it? Catholicism is most prevalent in the developed world. The church has been forced to change to keep up with society which changed at a far faster rate, due to rapidly increasing wealth, improved social welfare programs and technological advances. Most of the power of the church has been taken away by the state, so when they do their evil, like collectively rape the shit out of thousands upon thousands of small children, they try to be a bit more discreet about it these days because they (supposedly) don't have the protection of the government. But then, the west has developed as well as it has off the back of stealing the resources of the middle east hasn't it? Ouch. You could upset a lot of people with those rape allegations. The last point - have we? It cost me £57 to fill my car up yesterday and last time I looked Dubai had more sky scrapers than New York. If anyone has the right to complain about theft of resources, it's Africa, yet we never seem to have the same problems with them. Apart from the muslim ones. they have bigger problems, like entire generations growing up without parents due to the aids epidemic. also its hard to hit out at others while you're still fighting with yourselves.
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