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so you're not going to tell us what your fancy solutions are ? Like, "give in to Islam, build a mosque on every corner for them, they're nice blokes really, and we can all live happily ever after" .....you first. your ideas (of me and of "the real world") are far more enlightening than anything i could come up with given my apparent/perceived lack of "real world" experience. so please i insist, after you...... What are you asking exactly ? You know my views, and I know yours, which you don't deny [see above post] Are you going to give a powerpoint aided lecture to the Taliban telling them how uncivlised they are i was asking you to provide your "fancy solutions" so then, why don't you give me a quick over-view of my ideas if you know them contrary to your assertions, i've never made any suggestions as to what we should be doing to the Taliban

so you're not going to tell us what your fancy solutions are ? Like, "give in to Islam, build a mosque on every corner for them, they're nice blokes really, and we can all live happily ever after" .....you first. your ideas (of me and of "the real world") are far more enlightening than anything i could come up with given my apparent/perceived lack of "real world" experience. so please i insist, after you......

about as shocking as sunrise this morning.

totally agree. That is why I posted it. I expected one or two to play it down or even defend it though, but there is really no excuse for it at all. It's of even more concern that this is the sort of mentality they would try and impose on us, because they certainly won't change their ways in the name of "multiculturism and tolerance". Not a chance. well, i don't agree with that. this kind of thing doesn't happen in most parts of the civilised world. britain is a good example of multiculturism - it works. the taliban however, are barbarians. i don't think we will win the war in afghanistan and that is a real worry. these people are animals. I don't really think that multiculurism is working, nor will it ever work. For it to work, the onus is on those accepted into a country to conform ie when in Rome do as the Romans do, but wherever muslims go in the world, they are totally intolerant of said countries traditions and cultures. Everything has to stop for Allah so far as they are concerned, and they expect others to do the same. In their homeland, yes, but not elsewhere. This problem is now a worldwide one, although the UK because of the PC correct brigade has it bigger than most if not the biggest, and will only accelerate. Our politicians don't have the balls to tell the pc correct brigade where to go, basically. Prime example here: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172324...-dress-ban-vote "The law's author, Daniel Bacquelaine, said a burka is incompatible with basic security as everyone in public must be recognisable and clashes with the principles of a society that respects the rights of all." huge over-simplification, i would agree with that statement if you had singled out "fundamentalist islam", but I would also point out that fundamentalist christianity does much the same thing, ie trampling local indiginous cultures in the name of saving the population from eternal damnation. and as far as multiculturalism goes, sure it works. It's worked over here, despite resistance by portions of the population that are scared of anything/anyone they can't identify with on the basis of a first impression. I would love to take part more in this discussion today but I have to go and study , I look forward to having a debate on this further after tomorrow 11 am local time. ah. It becomes clearer. You're a 14 year old then hardly dipshit...I wrote my Professional Practice Exam yesterday... Well boogalloo. What fancy theories, from the comfort of your armchair, did you spout on about ? haha...you're a joke. you first LM tell me something about yourself.......yeah, didn't think so. What I do for a living is on the board somewhere, ask parky he knows. other than that piss-off, typical LM style, getting raked across the coals so you revert to 6yr old name calling tactics .....as I've said you're a fucking cartoon man. aye sure, a Canadian student telling us all how to put the world to rights hehehe....take yer meds. so i guess thats a no for any insight to the reasons why you are so much higher and mightier than us 'booklearned' chaps. yes. fits in nicely with your thread title....truly shocking

totally agree. That is why I posted it. I expected one or two to play it down or even defend it though, but there is really no excuse for it at all. It's of even more concern that this is the sort of mentality they would try and impose on us, because they certainly won't change their ways in the name of "multiculturism and tolerance". Not a chance. well, i don't agree with that. this kind of thing doesn't happen in most parts of the civilised world. britain is a good example of multiculturism - it works. the taliban however, are barbarians. i don't think we will win the war in afghanistan and that is a real worry. these people are animals. I don't really think that multiculurism is working, nor will it ever work. For it to work, the onus is on those accepted into a country to conform ie when in Rome do as the Romans do, but wherever muslims go in the world, they are totally intolerant of said countries traditions and cultures. Everything has to stop for Allah so far as they are concerned, and they expect others to do the same. In their homeland, yes, but not elsewhere. This problem is now a worldwide one, although the UK because of the PC correct brigade has it bigger than most if not the biggest, and will only accelerate. Our politicians don't have the balls to tell the pc correct brigade where to go, basically. Prime example here: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172324...-dress-ban-vote "The law's author, Daniel Bacquelaine, said a burka is incompatible with basic security as everyone in public must be recognisable and clashes with the principles of a society that respects the rights of all." huge over-simplification, i would agree with that statement if you had singled out "fundamentalist islam", but I would also point out that fundamentalist christianity does much the same thing, ie trampling local indiginous cultures in the name of saving the population from eternal damnation. and as far as multiculturalism goes, sure it works. It's worked over here, despite resistance by portions of the population that are scared of anything/anyone they can't identify with on the basis of a first impression. I would love to take part more in this discussion today but I have to go and study , I look forward to having a debate on this further after tomorrow 11 am local time. ah. It becomes clearer. You're a 14 year old then hardly dipshit...I wrote my Professional Practice Exam yesterday... Well boogalloo. What fancy theories, from the comfort of your armchair, did you spout on about ? haha...you're a joke. you first LM tell me something about yourself.......yeah, didn't think so. What I do for a living is on the board somewhere, ask parky he knows. other than that piss-off, typical LM style, getting raked across the coals so you revert to 6yr old name calling tactics .....as I've said you're a fucking cartoon man. aye sure, a Canadian student telling us all how to put the world to rights hehehe....take yer meds. so i guess thats a no for any insight to the reasons why you are so much higher and mightier than us 'booklearned' chaps.

totally agree. That is why I posted it. I expected one or two to play it down or even defend it though, but there is really no excuse for it at all. It's of even more concern that this is the sort of mentality they would try and impose on us, because they certainly won't change their ways in the name of "multiculturism and tolerance". Not a chance. well, i don't agree with that. this kind of thing doesn't happen in most parts of the civilised world. britain is a good example of multiculturism - it works. the taliban however, are barbarians. i don't think we will win the war in afghanistan and that is a real worry. these people are animals. I don't really think that multiculurism is working, nor will it ever work. For it to work, the onus is on those accepted into a country to conform ie when in Rome do as the Romans do, but wherever muslims go in the world, they are totally intolerant of said countries traditions and cultures. Everything has to stop for Allah so far as they are concerned, and they expect others to do the same. In their homeland, yes, but not elsewhere. This problem is now a worldwide one, although the UK because of the PC correct brigade has it bigger than most if not the biggest, and will only accelerate. Our politicians don't have the balls to tell the pc correct brigade where to go, basically. Prime example here: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172324...-dress-ban-vote "The law's author, Daniel Bacquelaine, said a burka is incompatible with basic security as everyone in public must be recognisable and clashes with the principles of a society that respects the rights of all." huge over-simplification, i would agree with that statement if you had singled out "fundamentalist islam", but I would also point out that fundamentalist christianity does much the same thing, ie trampling local indiginous cultures in the name of saving the population from eternal damnation. and as far as multiculturalism goes, sure it works. It's worked over here, despite resistance by portions of the population that are scared of anything/anyone they can't identify with on the basis of a first impression. I would love to take part more in this discussion today but I have to go and study , I look forward to having a debate on this further after tomorrow 11 am local time. ah. It becomes clearer. You're a 14 year old then hardly dipshit...I wrote my Professional Practice Exam yesterday... Well boogalloo. What fancy theories, from the comfort of your armchair, did you spout on about ? haha...you're a joke. you first LM tell me something about yourself.......yeah, didn't think so. What I do for a living is on the board somewhere, ask parky he knows. other than that piss-off, typical LM style, getting raked across the coals so you revert to 6yr old name calling tactics.....as I've said you're a fucking cartoon man. aye sure, a Canadian student telling us all how to put the world to rights hehehe....take yer meds.

totally agree. That is why I posted it. I expected one or two to play it down or even defend it though, but there is really no excuse for it at all. It's of even more concern that this is the sort of mentality they would try and impose on us, because they certainly won't change their ways in the name of "multiculturism and tolerance". Not a chance. well, i don't agree with that. this kind of thing doesn't happen in most parts of the civilised world. britain is a good example of multiculturism - it works. the taliban however, are barbarians. i don't think we will win the war in afghanistan and that is a real worry. these people are animals. I don't really think that multiculurism is working, nor will it ever work. For it to work, the onus is on those accepted into a country to conform ie when in Rome do as the Romans do, but wherever muslims go in the world, they are totally intolerant of said countries traditions and cultures. Everything has to stop for Allah so far as they are concerned, and they expect others to do the same. In their homeland, yes, but not elsewhere. This problem is now a worldwide one, although the UK because of the PC correct brigade has it bigger than most if not the biggest, and will only accelerate. Our politicians don't have the balls to tell the pc correct brigade where to go, basically. Prime example here: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172324...-dress-ban-vote "The law's author, Daniel Bacquelaine, said a burka is incompatible with basic security as everyone in public must be recognisable and clashes with the principles of a society that respects the rights of all." huge over-simplification, i would agree with that statement if you had singled out "fundamentalist islam", but I would also point out that fundamentalist christianity does much the same thing, ie trampling local indiginous cultures in the name of saving the population from eternal damnation. and as far as multiculturalism goes, sure it works. It's worked over here, despite resistance by portions of the population that are scared of anything/anyone they can't identify with on the basis of a first impression. I would love to take part more in this discussion today but I have to go and study , I look forward to having a debate on this further after tomorrow 11 am local time. ah. It becomes clearer. You're a 14 year old then hardly dipshit...I wrote my Professional Practice Exam yesterday... Well boogalloo. What fancy theories, from the comfort of your armchair, did you spout on about ? haha...you're a joke. you first LM tell me something about yourself.......yeah, didn't think so. What I do for a living is on the board somewhere, ask parky he knows. other than that piss-off, typical LM style, getting raked across the coals so you revert to 6yr old name calling tactics.....as I've said you're a fucking cartoon man.

1/2 marks....RIP Z = Z2 + C

i thought it was going to be about his Mum

totally agree. That is why I posted it. I expected one or two to play it down or even defend it though, but there is really no excuse for it at all. It's of even more concern that this is the sort of mentality they would try and impose on us, because they certainly won't change their ways in the name of "multiculturism and tolerance". Not a chance. well, i don't agree with that. this kind of thing doesn't happen in most parts of the civilised world. britain is a good example of multiculturism - it works. the taliban however, are barbarians. i don't think we will win the war in afghanistan and that is a real worry. these people are animals. I don't really think that multiculurism is working, nor will it ever work. For it to work, the onus is on those accepted into a country to conform ie when in Rome do as the Romans do, but wherever muslims go in the world, they are totally intolerant of said countries traditions and cultures. Everything has to stop for Allah so far as they are concerned, and they expect others to do the same. In their homeland, yes, but not elsewhere. This problem is now a worldwide one, although the UK because of the PC correct brigade has it bigger than most if not the biggest, and will only accelerate. Our politicians don't have the balls to tell the pc correct brigade where to go, basically. Prime example here: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172324...-dress-ban-vote "The law's author, Daniel Bacquelaine, said a burka is incompatible with basic security as everyone in public must be recognisable and clashes with the principles of a society that respects the rights of all." huge over-simplification, i would agree with that statement if you had singled out "fundamentalist islam", but I would also point out that fundamentalist christianity does much the same thing, ie trampling local indiginous cultures in the name of saving the population from eternal damnation. and as far as multiculturalism goes, sure it works. It's worked over here, despite resistance by portions of the population that are scared of anything/anyone they can't identify with on the basis of a first impression. I would love to take part more in this discussion today but I have to go and study , I look forward to having a debate on this further after tomorrow 11 am local time. ah. It becomes clearer. You're a 14 year old then hardly dipshit...I wrote my Professional Practice Exam yesterday... and for what it's worth there is no superiority complex coming from me. WE live in a civil society, and should therefore be held to a higher standard since it those values of a civil society that allow us to have all the freedoms we enjoy. no where in this thread has anyone defended the actions of the Taliban, you can't they are by all accounts barbaric, but they are still human and certainly no less than you or I simply based on their religious beliefs or the colour of their skin. If they lived in the UK or Canada they would be prosecuted under the full extent of the law and rightfully so.

Read it in the context I put it you yank nob. Are people who cut a girls nose and ears off human? I don't think they are, it doesn't say ALL muslims aren't human does it? not sure whats worse, your geographic knowledge or the fact you think you can qualify a statement like that. Certainly the taliban and those responsible for cutting that girls nose off are barbaric without question. But it doesn't mean that they are some how less than human and therefore ok to wipe off the face of the earth. The fact that we live in a civil society and hopefully are above acts like those posted in the OP is what separates us from those that do not hold the same values. But if we indiscriminately dole out retribution in the form superior military might to eradicate those we deem as "less than human" we are no longer occupying the moral high ground.

totally agree. That is why I posted it. I expected one or two to play it down or even defend it though, but there is really no excuse for it at all. It's of even more concern that this is the sort of mentality they would try and impose on us, because they certainly won't change their ways in the name of "multiculturism and tolerance". Not a chance. well, i don't agree with that. this kind of thing doesn't happen in most parts of the civilised world. britain is a good example of multiculturism - it works. the taliban however, are barbarians. i don't think we will win the war in afghanistan and that is a real worry. these people are animals. I don't really think that multiculurism is working, nor will it ever work. For it to work, the onus is on those accepted into a country to conform ie when in Rome do as the Romans do, but wherever muslims go in the world, they are totally intolerant of said countries traditions and cultures. Everything has to stop for Allah so far as they are concerned, and they expect others to do the same. In their homeland, yes, but not elsewhere. This problem is now a worldwide one, although the UK because of the PC correct brigade has it bigger than most if not the biggest, and will only accelerate. Our politicians don't have the balls to tell the pc correct brigade where to go, basically. Prime example here: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172324...-dress-ban-vote "The law's author, Daniel Bacquelaine, said a burka is incompatible with basic security as everyone in public must be recognisable and clashes with the principles of a society that respects the rights of all." huge over-simplification, i would agree with that statement if you had singled out "fundamentalist islam", but I would also point out that fundamentalist christianity does much the same thing, ie trampling local indiginous cultures in the name of saving the population from eternal damnation. and as far as multiculturalism goes, sure it works. It's worked over here, despite resistance by portions of the population that are scared of anything/anyone they can't identify with on the basis of a first impression. I would love to take part more in this discussion today but I have to go and study, I look forward to having a debate on this further after tomorrow 11 am local time.

horlicks. I don't drink in the afternoons, apart from a matchday, but have never been a sunday afternoon person. I can only presume if you think we don't have a serious immigration problem, due to this multiculturism rubbish and the racism of those who attempt to change the culture of countries who allow them to inhabit, that you yourself must be permanently pissed ? ...as in you're as smart as a.....

ah. Someone else who thinks they know all about me, my life, my experiences....and all because I don't agree we should allow foreigners to tell us what we can and can't say, can and can't do, in my country. While watching the do gooders allowing them slowly to chip away at our freedoms which past generations have died for, which young idiots have no comprehension of because they believe rubbish in books written by left wing do gooders who have no idea whatsoever of the mentality of people in other countries and their real attitude to the western world. Whatever. You will say in 20 years time, that Leazes was right. Too late. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=28504 multiculturism doesn't work,and now there is a problem. tbf I don't need to know "everything about you" to decide you're a old, bitter little-englander who refuses to be even remotely objective on multiple subjects and accuses everyone of being a do-gooder because they don't want to burn brown people at the stake. It's hardly rocket science tbh you should listen to your elders lad. what's your opinion on the opening post ? you first....considering its your post your oipinion on it is glaringly absent.......as usual. "oipinion" rattled. I think they should stick to living in their caves and the likes of you, instead of telling me I should put up with them coming here, should go over there and explain to them how uncivilised they are. *opinion...FFS rattled by you?...hardly you're a fucking cartoon.

ah. Someone else who thinks they know all about me, my life, my experiences....and all because I don't agree we should allow foreigners to tell us what we can and can't say, can and can't do, in my country. While watching the do gooders allowing them slowly to chip away at our freedoms which past generations have died for, which young idiots have no comprehension of because they believe rubbish in books written by left wing do gooders who have no idea whatsoever of the mentality of people in other countries and their real attitude to the western world. Whatever. You will say in 20 years time, that Leazes was right. Too late. http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=28504 multiculturism doesn't work,and now there is a problem. tbf I don't need to know "everything about you" to decide you're a old, bitter little-englander who refuses to be even remotely objective on multiple subjects and accuses everyone of being a do-gooder because they don't want to burn brown people at the stake. It's hardly rocket science tbh you should listen to your elders lad. what's your opinion on the opening post ? you first....considering its your post your oipinion on it is glaringly absent.......as usual.

Nowt against you mate, I realise you are putting across your case with patience and are probably a good bloke I'm just saying, if I were you I wouldn't go near Bradford or Birmingham anytime soon. are you confirming that parts of the UK are now off limits to UK citizens, courtesy of peaceful and tolerant muslims who believe in freedom of speech ala UK laws and democracy ? How has that came about ? Where next ? I'm saying that I was definitely having a joke with you as I thought you knew. I think. so was I. To a degree. However it seems our resident yank wannabee liberal do gooder got a trembly lip over it. Definitions of wanker •Wanker is a pejorative term of English origin, common in Commonwealth and ex-Commonwealth countries, including Canada, Britain, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. It initially referred to an but has since become a general insult. It is synonymous with tosser. •A person who wanks; An idiot, a stupid, annoying or ineffectual person; Someone who shows off too much. Someone who is overly proud of himself

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See sonny, I think that you have little regard or understanding of our troops in the front line, being shot at, killed etc, and the anger felt by families in this country towards scumbags who are allowed to heckle them on the streets of the UK harping on about their homeland [home is where you are isn't it ? nowt to stop them going back to their homeland and educating their own people instead of leaving it to us and pledging to kill us for doing it], and peddle the absurd theory that they should actually be shot at before they are allowed to fire back, to be offensive. In fact, highly offensive. I also find it the idea of building a mosque near the site of the twin towers to be offensive, in fact highly offensive. I also find being told that I should be understanding of these cunts to be offensive. I also find being lectured by a tosspot like you, who doesn't even live in the UK, offensive. I also find PC correct lunatics telling me what I can and can't say, and accusing me of being a racist for objecting to being told what I can and can't say, offensive. I will also find, the day I am waved into this country from a holiday or work abroad, by a customs official wearing a burkha, to be offensive. Highly offensive. Now bugger off back to being a yank wannabee again. I find you offensive. WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH.....your lips are moving but you aren't saying anything......

KABUL - Ignoring an international outcry, Afghanistan's puritanical Taliban Islamic militia began demolishing statues across the country on Thursday, including two towering ancient stone Buddhas. Taliban Minister of Information and Culture Qudratullah Jamal told AFP the destruction of scores of pre-Islamic figures, designed to stop the worshipping of "false idols," had begun throughout the country. Undated photo of the world's tallest statue of Bhudda measuring 53 meters (175 feet) in Bamiyan, 125 kilometers (90 miles) west of Kabul in Afghanistan. Supreme Commander of the Taliban Mullah Mohammad Omar had ordered the destruction of all statues in Afghanistan, including the centuries-old Buddha in Bamiyan, and armed Taliban troops fanned out across the country Thursday to implement the supreme leader's order. (AP Photo) He said militiamen started wrecking the almost 2,000-year-old Buddhist masterpieces in the central province of Bamiyan, including the world's tallest standing Buddha measuring 50 meters (165 feet), after sunrise. "The work started about five hours ago but I do not know how much of it (the two Bamiyan Buddhas) has been destroyed," Jamal said. "It will be destroyed by every means. All the statues are being destroyed." He said Taliban soldiers were at "work" in the Kabul museum and elsewhere in the provinces of Ghazni, Herat, Jalalabad and Kandahar. An edict announced Monday by the militia's supreme leader, Mulla Mohammad Omar, calling for the destruction of all statues in line with "Islamic" laws, has caused shock around the world. Afghanistan is home to an array of pre-Islamic historic treasures from its days as a key stop on the ancient Silk Road and a strategic battleground for conquerers dating back to Alexander the Great and the Aryans before him. The two massive Bamiyan Buddhas, carved into a sandstone cliff near the provincial capital in central Afghanistan, stand 50 meters (165 feet) and 34.5 meters (114 feet) tall and were built around the second century. Appeals for their preservation have come from the United States, France, Germany, Thailand, Japan, Sri Lanka, Iran, Pakistan, Germany, Russia, India and UN Secretary General Kofi Annan. Koichiro Matsuura, chief of the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), said he had convened an emergency meeting of members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference to try to stop the destruction. "They are destroying statues that the entire world considers to be masterpieces," Matsuura said. "And this is being done in the name of an interpretation of the Muslim faith that is not recognized anywhere else in the world." http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0301-04.htm the bit in bold is the important bit, the taliban are NOT mainstream muslim faith. That is the point I've made in other threads, yet LM and others (and the media for that matter) try and paint all of Islam with the same brush. LM i really don't care if you're a racist cunt, I don't know you and I'm glad I never will, but when you post things on this board that are offensive I'll call you on it because we live in a civil society with certain fundamental rights for everyone regardless of gender, RELIGION, sexual orientation, COLOUR OF SKIN.

i think the fact that you had to bump your own post says it all really. because HF and myself don't lump all muslims together with the Taliban doesn't mean a thing other than we aren't racist Pricks/Jerks like yourself. you're a sad old man LM nothing more. you have no constructive comment to make to defend the actions described in this opening post then ? Thought not. Which is, of course, the reason I bumped it. when have I ever defended the taliban? show me...please. you bumped it because you're a desparate old racist with no life.... .....you really are a fuck-wit...... Like I said, the last resort of the weak willed yellow bellied "leave him alone he's a nice bloke really" left wing liberal coward. still no proof of me defending the taliban huh?....nice slight of hand though. answer the question bouche-dag. fucking typical LM can't stay on topic, take yer meds you old fart.

i think the fact that you had to bump your own post says it all really. because HF and myself don't lump all muslims together with the Taliban doesn't mean a thing other than we aren't racist Pricks/Jerks like yourself. you're a sad old man LM nothing more. you have no constructive comment to make to defend the actions described in this opening post then ? Thought not. Which is, of course, the reason I bumped it. when have I ever defended the taliban? show me...please. you bumped it because you're a desparate old racist with no life.... .....you really are a fuck-wit......

i think the fact that you had to bump your own post says it all really. because HF and myself don't lump all muslims together with the Taliban doesn't mean a thing other than we aren't racist Pricks/Jerks like yourself. you're a sad old man LM nothing more.

yes but can he spell?