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BANG ON! When they (Oceanic 6) were trying to get back to the island they had to re-create the flight as closely as possible, therefore you have Jack, Kate, Sun, Hurley, Ben (as stand in for Locke), Locke (as stand in for Jacks Dad), Sayid as prisoner a la Kate in season one. And the pilot (whats-his-name), who I presume had to be on the plane because he also left the Island. Still not sure about Ben getting shot, and as far as that goes, what about Claire's kid Arron, and (while unborn at the time of departure Sun's kid), wouldn't they have needed to go back to save the castaways?

Not the best, but damn good for the funk Muppets from space Shining Star - The Dust Brothers Flashlight (Spaceflight) - George Clinton Brick House - The Commodores Getaway - The Getaway People Dazz - G. Love and Special Sauce It's Your Thing - The Isley Brothers Survival - The O'Jays Get Up Offa That Thing - James Brown Celebration - The Alien Gonzos Outa-Space - Billy Preston

you could make some serious cash on the photos of them shitting..... tbh....lower taxes as a result......i'm just sayin'

start a climbing wall design company....... custom designs only to start, get more capital then get into sales and design of a modular wall (not panels) but actual structure (like tinker toys) that would keep climbing gyms "fresh" and unboring.

manc mag butting in on my comments, and calling me obsessed !!!! Class. You are a bit when it comes to Renton like. Wouldn't say you're the only one on here who is obsessive at times by any means. what I find the most amusing is the same wriggling from Renton, and accusing someone else of starting these "insults", in addition to "avoiding me" - for the reasons I've stated. I don't think I've jumped into a thread and then said to the person I've addressed that he's obsessed with me WTF, I'm in a good mood. Can't help but laugh at the sheer stupidity of it. Good on FOP for showing them both up to be dicks, and obsessed with himself, is how I see it. FYP......whats with the third person reference to himself?

So you're contradicting your earlier views about the BNP then. Thanks for clarifying. Who then should make the decision who should be allowed to speak and who shouldn't? The law courts? The government? The Intelligence agencies? The media? What you're suggesting is contrary to any notion of living in a free country, you'd be better suited living in China tbh. Case closed. Not really, this is covered in UK law. What an ambiguous reply. Ambiguous replies are generally the product of a defeated entity, Fop being a case in point. Its because I haven't got time at work that I haven't given a full response. There are laws in the UK that are designed to stop people preaching hate. These should be used. Its not hard or ambiguous Stevie...well maybe for you. indeed there are Danny, however you misunderstand those as was shown in the post in the Luton anti-war demo..... here it is QUOTE(Danny B @ Mar 17 2009, 09:06 AM) QUOTE(Renton @ Mar 17 2009, 03:57 PM) I'm fairly sure freedom of speech was quite high on their agenda Leazes. It's a tradition and right I strongly associate with this country, don't you? I'm fairly sure quite a few would turn in their graves at some of the stuff that has been said in this thread too, especially considering the regime they were fighting. Surprised you can't see this. Well, actually, I'm not. Freedom of speach as long as it is legal Renton, that is what you appear to be glossing over. What they are doing is illegal, if I racially abused them I would be locked up, they are inciting hatred and should be punished. Its not hard. could you make out something other than "free palestine" and "allah akbar" in the video? from Wiki, but also found in the act itself(section 29J) "The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 amended the Public Order Act 1986 by adding Part 3A. That Part says, "A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred." The Part protects freedom of expression by stating in Section 29J: Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system." so you see the law that stops preaching hate also has a caveat within protecting the public's right to make their own minds up, and voice those opinions without prejudice.

ok first off it's not for what he says or might say that has got him in hot water over here, it's the fact he went in to Gaza and "aided" Hamas, a recognized ( incorrectly imo they were democratically elected) terrorist gov't. So the short answer is....Yes they would let the BNP do a talk, this is not so much about freedom of speech as it is about just how fucking clueless my gov't is.

hahaha...probably, funny thing is that was the conservative party attempt at "humanizing" Harper, the sweater and kitten have been the "butt" of jokes since then Any Canadians every invented anything or exported any kind of worthy culture? insulin ....wait here you go, cheeky fuckers ok so Parky will point out that not all those things listed were invented by people 'born' in Canada, but lots were and they were invented here......probably the superior air quality

hahaha...probably, funny thing is that was the conservative party attempt at "humanizing" Harper, the sweater and kitten have been the "butt" of jokes since then

i would say we're neither like the yanks or the brits. altogether anyway, the yanks think we're socialists ( a dirty word down there ), and you lot think, well apparently, nothing, about us. The effect of american media on canadian values is HUGE, so we share many of the same consumer driven values. thing is we're massive (geographically speaking) so people from the east( sound the most like brits) are different from those in the west, then throw in the quebecers for good measure. TBH we're not really like any one thing, hence the schizo nationalistic sense.

HAHAHA......exactly my point though. No wonder people think we're boring. Trudeau was the most well known Prime Minister (Stevie were in the Commonwealth), as for royal antics he did slide down the bannisters at Buckingham Palace and did a piruette behind 'Liz when she visited. This international amnesia of all things Canadian is what fuels our passive/aggressive nationalistic side. check out this vid

Please don't paint Canada with the same brush as our PM. As I said before the guy is a robot I mean who the fuck poses with a kitten? Worse, who the fuck votes for the prick? Harper has all the foreign policy savvy of a wet fart. The man/robot is clueless, last fall the after the election, the other parties got together to take down the government b/c it's a minority. Then the Conservatives start in with "the Canadian public has made their choice", yeah they did Stevo, and they gave you a minority. So undetered with the damage to the democratic process Stevo decides to ask the Govenor General to end parliament (Pro-rog(u)e)(SP?) before the other parties can get a vote to become a coalition. The poor GG (not george), has no choice but to accept the request. So for the the first time in the history of Canadian Parliament the gov't has used this leverage (which is normally used to end parliament prematurely in the face of being ahead of schedule and out of things to vote on) to stop the democratic process. Freedom my ass!!!! So it doesn't surprise me that "we've" made ourselves look the fools again.

keep up the good work........ya wanker

ok, admittedly i am a GG neophyte, so please excuse this next question. Why do so many on here have an issue with what this guy is saying? So far I have heard him say that he is against war and the killing of civilians..etc. , I can get behind those statements tbh. So, keeping in mind I have heard very little of the rest of what GG has to say, whats the big deal?

Exactly. He's not one for the sheep, but most of his comments hit the nail on the head. He has turned into a bit of a nob lately, but suppose fame and being so god damn right all the time is bound to make you big headed. Thirded. Plus, anyway, I'm literally amazed at some of the comments on this thread from people I'd expect something different from. FFS freedom of speech is nothing to do with this so-called 'hand-wringing'. It's common sense! Jesus wept, do we want to live in a world where only 'normal' comments are allowed or are we actually allowed to make our own minds up? Also George Galloway has been elected a member of Parliament and Canada are part of the so-called 'Common wealth'. It's an utter joke the guy isn't being allowed to speak in a supposedly 'free' country called Canada, especially when the USA has no problems with him. He's banned for National Security needs apparently . Maybe someone can tell me how old George is going to threaten the Western civilised world with his wicked pen and tongue? have you seen our PM FFS, the guy is scary I personally think he's a robot. I think the issue is his (GG) ties to Hamas, giving money or something, anyway because our gov't has Hamas on a "list" of terrorist organizations his affiliation is what the stink is about......not what he has to say. As fer Parky, hahaha Canada boring!!!??? Whatever, if you've been here, fair enough to each their own. If not, STFU!!!! Canada is anything but boring, T.O. Montreal and Vancouver are all world-class cities with world class night life. Calgary, well I apologise for Calgary it is boring as fuck. Only joshing mate. Don't take anything I say on these boards too seriously. :huh: duly noted we canucks have a bit of a passive/aggressive nationalistic side, we're overly polite and can't really identify with what it is that makes us canadian but get bent out of shape if someone slags the great white north (no Danny that is not a racist nickname), back to the post...... just to show how ridiculous and clueless our gov't is, the U.S. have let Galloway in yet Harper and his cronies still won't because of "security concerns"......bunch of idiots, what kind of security concerns could there be if the U.S. is ok with it. It's like highschool student council up here, if you've ever had the displeasure to see the current canadian parliamentary question period they stand/sit around and yell insults at each othere while the other side is trying to make their point......utterly disgraceful. The U.S. are shit scared of him since he gave that senator a kicking live on telly. footage?

agreed, the kid is sure to be an alchoholic later on in life, far to young to be drinking imo

preaching to the choir!!

Exactly. He's not one for the sheep, but most of his comments hit the nail on the head. He has turned into a bit of a nob lately, but suppose fame and being so god damn right all the time is bound to make you big headed. Thirded. Plus, anyway, I'm literally amazed at some of the comments on this thread from people I'd expect something different from. FFS freedom of speech is nothing to do with this so-called 'hand-wringing'. It's common sense! Jesus wept, do we want to live in a world where only 'normal' comments are allowed or are we actually allowed to make our own minds up? Also George Galloway has been elected a member of Parliament and Canada are part of the so-called 'Common wealth'. It's an utter joke the guy isn't being allowed to speak in a supposedly 'free' country called Canada, especially when the USA has no problems with him. He's banned for National Security needs apparently . Maybe someone can tell me how old George is going to threaten the Western civilised world with his wicked pen and tongue? have you seen our PM FFS, the guy is scary I personally think he's a robot. I think the issue is his (GG) ties to Hamas, giving money or something, anyway because our gov't has Hamas on a "list" of terrorist organizations his affiliation is what the stink is about......not what he has to say. As fer Parky, hahaha Canada boring!!!??? Whatever, if you've been here, fair enough to each their own. If not, STFU!!!! Canada is anything but boring, T.O. Montreal and Vancouver are all world-class cities with world class night life. Calgary, well I apologise for Calgary it is boring as fuck. Only joshing mate. Don't take anything I say on these boards too seriously. :huh: duly noted we canucks have a bit of a passive/aggressive nationalistic side, we're overly polite and can't really identify with what it is that makes us canadian but get bent out of shape if someone slags the great white north (no Danny that is not a racist nickname), back to the post...... just to show how ridiculous and clueless our gov't is, the U.S. have let Galloway in yet Harper and his cronies still won't because of "security concerns"......bunch of idiots, what kind of security concerns could there be if the U.S. is ok with it. It's like highschool student council up here, if you've ever had the displeasure to see the current canadian parliamentary question period they stand/sit around and yell insults at each othere while the other side is trying to make their point......utterly disgraceful.

Exactly. He's not one for the sheep, but most of his comments hit the nail on the head. He has turned into a bit of a nob lately, but suppose fame and being so god damn right all the time is bound to make you big headed. Thirded. Plus, anyway, I'm literally amazed at some of the comments on this thread from people I'd expect something different from. FFS freedom of speech is nothing to do with this so-called 'hand-wringing'. It's common sense! Jesus wept, do we want to live in a world where only 'normal' comments are allowed or are we actually allowed to make our own minds up? Also George Galloway has been elected a member of Parliament and Canada are part of the so-called 'Common wealth'. It's an utter joke the guy isn't being allowed to speak in a supposedly 'free' country called Canada, especially when the USA has no problems with him. He's banned for National Security needs apparently . Maybe someone can tell me how old George is going to threaten the Western civilised world with his wicked pen and tongue? have you seen our PM FFS, the guy is scary I personally think he's a robot. I think the issue is his (GG) ties to Hamas, giving money or something, anyway because our gov't has Hamas on a "list" of terrorist organizations his affiliation is what the stink is about......not what he has to say. As fer Parky, hahaha Canada boring!!!??? Whatever, if you've been here, fair enough to each their own. If not, STFU!!!! Canada is anything but boring, T.O. Montreal and Vancouver are all world-class cities with world class night life. Calgary, well I apologise for Calgary it is boring as fuck.

what is the ban for smoking over there? Here the ban is for restaurants and bars/pubs but the private clubs (i.e. fraternal orders, legions etc.) can get around it because the people behind the bars and waiting tables are volunteers and therefore not covered by worker compensation which was the real catalyst. personally I think it's not such a bad idea, i enjoy not smoking a pack and a half of second hand cig's while I'm out and about, and my clothes don't reek like an ashtray, I'd have to say they probably have the "smoking" ban in the right places IMO as far as raising taxes on booze, in BC we already have some of the highest prices in Canada and there is another raise coming for hard liquor.....about $1.30 / liter. It's funny to me that wine is cheaper in the UK than it is here ( i live in the Okanagan, wine country for fucks sake), damn government!!!! Are you smoking for free you cunt? haha....why whatever do you mean?

what is the ban for smoking over there? Here the ban is for restaurants and bars/pubs but the private clubs (i.e. fraternal orders, legions etc.) can get around it because the people behind the bars and waiting tables are volunteers and therefore not covered by worker compensation which was the real catalyst. personally I think it's not such a bad idea, i enjoy not smoking a pack and a half of second hand cig's while I'm out and about, and my clothes don't reek like an ashtray, I'd have to say they probably have the "smoking" ban in the right places IMO as far as raising taxes on booze, in BC we already have some of the highest prices in Canada and there is another raise coming for hard liquor.....about $1.30 / liter. It's funny to me that wine is cheaper in the UK than it is here ( i live in the Okanagan, wine country for fucks sake), damn government!!!!

myopic view as usual Stevie...

Worse than those Man United fans from outside Manchester who claim they've got a legitimate reason for supporting them because their "Uncle once bought a dog from a man who cut Sir Alex Ferguson's lawn" .....so it should only be observed in Ireland then? I'll send a memo to Boston and New York then shall I?

Freedom of speach as long as it is legal Renton, that is what you appear to be glossing over. What they are doing is illegal, if I racially abused them I would be locked up, they are inciting hatred and should be punished. Its not hard. could you make out something other than "free palestine" and "allah akbar" in the video? from Wiki, but also found in the act itself(section 29J) "The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 amended the Public Order Act 1986 by adding Part 3A. That Part says, "A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred." The Part protects freedom of expression by stating in Section 29J: Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system."

Pro-hunt protesters out numbered them in Parliament square, that still didn't stop the police beating innocent people to a bloody pulp for a crowd surge behind them (not hitting police with sticks or throwing fencing or anything like that, not even for just swearing at them). I can't remember them telling the miners to "calm down, please calm down" either, just beatings and horse charges. That's the whole point, they aren't.... only in completely the OPPOSITE direction to the one you are implying in this case (which is utter hypocrisy on your part, I'm afraid - you can't claim you are against such things, then turn a blind eye when something then doesn't fit your beliefs). so because you can provide two examples of the police treating white people different during protests i'm a hypocrite? how does this not fit my beliefs? FFS give your head a shake, the stanza you quoted me on was commenting on the implication by other posters that what was being said was illegal which it is not. Throwing fences and pylons at police IS illegal and I can't fathom why the police would not enforce based on those things, however this was a discussion about the "abuse" of the freedom of "speech"......refer to my other posts in this thread if you need clarification of my beliefs.