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The new one at 599 euros look like they are nice and quick. You just need an Intel for stuff like plex. Mac-mini + Plex + Giganews + sabnzd+ = automated heaven. How about one of these ? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/161524 Does it connect to the internet? You can set a pc up to search newsgroups for the latest tv shows / favourite movies automatically as they are posted. The mac can be set up to automatically search the tvdb or the imdb to bring all the artwork and information for whatever it is you've downloaded. Means it just sits there running searchs on newsgroups and storing your media. Lad on NO told me all about it. If that thing could connect to the internet and run software then it'd be a lot cheaper.

No, that would be the people who introduced them to Britain. The french?

The new one at 599 euros look like they are nice and quick. You just need an Intel for stuff like plex. Mac-mini + Plex + Giganews + sabnzd+ = automated heaven.

Greys are cunts though.

I'm considering buying a mac-mini to connect to my TV which will have all my downloaded tv shows, movies and music on. It can then sit in the stack neat and tidy and permanenty connected to the TV (and internet). Bit extravagant but this is a thinly veiled brag thread after all.

Seems to lack vision which is strange as his other business model is all about fast acting and taking risks sometimes against the market. Thats exactly how i'd descibe the january window. I agree. I'll be in Campaigne mid Aug (2 hrs from Paris). PM me your mob again.

Does LCD not have HDMI?

Seems to lack vision which is strange as his other business model is all about fast acting and taking risks sometimes against the market. Thats exactly how i'd descibe the january window.

So where did the other 68m come from? He basically took 68m of his capital and tied it up ineffectively in paying off creditors with an internal loan. This was the biggest choice he made, how to spend all the investment capital. It doesnt get any bigger than that. His choice of investment of that capital has fucked the club and was the wrong decision financially. The prosepctive owners will look at that decision as one which destroyed value and will price accordingly. Doesnt matter if it comes out of the asking price or any deal on debt with SJ Holdings.

220m of debt? Since when? There is meant to be a 110m of debt, 40/50m of which was stadium according to reports pre-Ashley. Whatever percentage of the debt is based on the stadium developement, any new owner needs to take this on. Its an integral part of the club and its future value. My view is that whatever elements of the debt outside of stadium re-payment were paid off by Ashley should NOT be considered by the buyers as something they need to take on. This is simple. Ashley decided to pay off the debt rather than invest heavily in the playing squad, as he and his team were quick to point out. Some of the debt needed to be addressed because of the change of ownership, i assume this was the stadium expansion debt. The rest of the debt, he chose to pay off at the expense of a better playing squad and ultimately premiership status. Since the value of the club has fallen, the asking price needs to reflect this loss of value. He ultimately has not paid off any debt (since he wants it back) and at the same time, did not invest in the squad. All he achieved by that was saving future interest payments. If his total investment was 220m and half of that was tying up his capital to save on interest payments then he has to hold his hands up and say 'i've lost half the value of the total investment' because he had a choice (over a percentage of the debt i.e. the non-stadium debt) The new owners should therefore be looking to pay 70m for the club and taking on the stadium debt (and possibly the overdraft on the current account). Can anyone find pre-ashley estimates of the stadium debt?

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He must be young then as 9k is peanuts for that lot.

Soft a's are southern and french, hard a's are northern and anglo-saxon. Tell them to take their pick.

Keep slapping yourself on the back Fish.if that`s what keeps you wet!! like I said It takes 15 minutes from the south side of Sunderland to the north side of Newcastle by car anyone attending this event ( if anyone even hosts it) wouldn`t give a flying fuck about the hillbillys they meet in either city well!! apart from the unpleasant odor that eminates from the shoes off brigade north of the tyne... this is 2009,we have taxis,there may be people that might prefer to while away their none footballing hours at the seaside! who knows? you must remember,the rest of the world wont perceive a good night out,as fowwateen bottles a broon a flaming sambuca and two kebabs.as the perfect night out. "We have taxis!" should have been the strap-line. Yiv lost iz!!! is that charva talk?? The smile was at the description of a good night out, which sounded like a canny night to me. You selling Sunderland with the line 'we have taxis!!' is even funnier when you imagine it splashed across page 3 of your brochure as you run out of things to say. A strap-line isnt that thing your wife once talked about either.

Keep slapping yourself on the back Fish.if that`s what keeps you wet!! like I said It takes 15 minutes from the south side of Sunderland to the north side of Newcastle by car anyone attending this event ( if anyone even hosts it) wouldn`t give a flying fuck about the hillbillys they meet in either city well!! apart from the unpleasant odor that eminates from the shoes off brigade north of the tyne... this is 2009,we have taxis,there may be people that might prefer to while away their none footballing hours at the seaside! who knows? you must remember,the rest of the world wont perceive a good night out,as fowwateen bottles a broon a flaming sambuca and two kebabs.as the perfect night out. "We have taxis!" should have been the strap-line.

But if you are paying that, losing more money, like the near 30mill in 2006-07 who's going to lend you more with nothing to securitise it against ? The cunt should have put his hand in his pocket in January as he should have seen relegation coming.

The objective isnt to have debt though, its to make high profile revenue and profit through a variety of channels. Quite how this is meant to happen looks a bit of a mystery at the moment. If the future financial structure of football leads to greater integration between club parent companies and the media distribution/broadcast, then you could argue that the club itself could be a loss leader for companies making money through related products. Or that it doesnt always have balance the books if it generates income for other related businesses. That all said, you can make a fuck load of money out of football already, there are a couple of north-eastern family names that spring to mind

Shite in Portuguese doesnt rhyme with luz either.

Belgium. Saudi Arabia. Djibouti. (the sheik is a cunt). Holland (the dutch are cunts). Zimbabwe.

Is this story not just the buyers applying pressure via the media? The debt is clearly an issue and the more they can make of it, the more the force the hand of Ashley who would rather take 60+m for the club now than even less in a years time. The danger I see here is him staying on and having a go at the championship himself. It is worth remembering that it has taken a long time to find a buyer for Soton and someone also mentioned Pompey too. I'm loathed to think that we are in their bracket but I guess we are now.

2 weeks? Am a bit early for the swedge then.

On the ring-road outside utrecht now, can't see any of us anywhere. Looks like we've bottled this.

Am in amsterdam at the moment, seen some mackems this morning, group of 6 lads, didn't realise they were meant to be playing here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbys...-by-August.html

An ex-strike and an ex-defender too. You can get tapas in the toon anarl.