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Just as Westwood gets the slagging for all things pre 92 is Souness going to be blamed for everything bad that happens in the next 10 years? Im not backing Souness here but theres a lot of managers would have chewed their own arm off to take over some of the players Roeder did (as was proved by us finishing 7th). Just to reiterate a point that you have refused to reply to in all the posts I have done on this, I (and Im guessing everyone else here) dont think a new board will guarantee us overnight success. I just think its a damn good gamble to take, if this club goes down then we will be the next Leeds. I do however like the way in the last para that you've reversed it round, its Shepherd who talks this club up, makes out we're bigger than we are and slags off the likes of ManUre, fans understandably hear this and follow suit. IT IS NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND... Oh and finally, could you help me with a crossword clue Im stuck on? 4 down - Newcastle United manager who had the team in the top flight and final stages of two cup competitions in one season, 7 letters.... _O_N _ _S © Alex 2007 hmmm???

2 death threats in the 1st 10 pages

and heres todays:

When I was buying a house I had to get some forms sorted through work so I was dealing with this lass from Personnel. She managed to rush them through and I arranged to pick them up so I go down and this young but extremely large girl comes out with them. Shes nattering away and Im really grateful and thanking her for sorting it so she says "no bother as long as I get an invite to the housewarming" to which I reply........ "aye if you'll fit in" I just wanted the ground to swallow me whole

See if you can answer this one btw Leazes who deleted his reply? surely it must be here somewhere?

I notice you denied the coat and rifle but not hair in a girly flick out stylee

fabolous greetings of the birthday kind are bestowed on you

What you and Cat get upto in the privacy of her home should remain that way not be splashed across a football forum..... porvort!

Two years ago I lived in Concord, Washington and had knocks on the door every 5 minutes, got sick of answering the little scroats so I made the lass I was seeing go, she came back laughing and said "you missed out there, 2 18 year old lasses dressed as bunny girls!"

So whats Poker then when its not gambling? Im a member of all the casinos in Newcastle and two in Birmingham (used to help while away the boring nights in Telford), prefer Stanleys out of the toon ones. Only ever play roulette in the casino but have had a few good days (with one or two bad ones) basically I never now take my cards with me, just cash that way if I only take what Im willing to lose then alls good.

shhhhh! senile dementia poor old fart probably forgets where he left his shopping and stuff.

Nowt in deleted threads, no post in Admin or Mod forums, no sign of an email going to you to inform you of action..... hmmmmm wonders if maybe Mr S is getting his TTs and N-Os mixed up.

OMG!! LOL!!!1!! WTF??!?!? They've removed all the pics off the gallery If only someone had taken a copy of them all and turned it into a random pic of the day page

christ thats a bit uncalled for innit? Radgina in hope Gemmill croaks it shocker!

thanks folks well apart from the twattin werepig comment

I downloaded FF 2.0 last week and the little x is on each tab, very irritating when you go to select a tab and hit the X instead. Also, 2 add-ons that I was using under 1.5x arent compatible..whats all that about?

Well I dont have pictures of Wigans stadium as it was 20 years ago but I reckon to get a feel for it you should go to Blyth Spartans or Dunston Fed. So no I dont see our expansion the same as theirs. And yes, I have a vivid imagination but then its the nearest he could do to match Freds.

I do recall the pre 92 years (although as I've said before I have the worlds worst football memory and cat remember a game I attended 2 weeks ago wooohooooo!!!!!) however I dont see them as being the thing, I agree with you anyone would appear better than McKeag and co but thats not the issue. You use 1992 as your argument, regardless of whatever role Fred had in those days he wasnt the chairman. The glory years we had at that time were not in his reign. Going back to the "old days" football was a totally different kettle of chickens back then, it wasnt the big business it is now, as you yourself said it was the introduction of SKY that did it. As for the attendances you seem to have missed the point I was making which was that, yes when we were in the 2nd division we had lower attendances but I bet they were higher than most if not all the other teams in that league and thats my point. Newcastle will have higher attendances than most clubs regardless of what happens, with or without Fred. He did not come along in 96 and suddenly have extra fans baying on the door as a consequence. If we had a 50k seater back in 92 then we would have filled it with or without Shepherd. Which brings me back to Wigan, they didnt have the huge fanbase we had when Whelan took over and never will but he has built that club up, got the fans in there and took them forward and he alone, can take the credit for that. As for the others mentioned such as Madjeski I believe he also has proven himself as a chairman way more than Shepherd has for what he has done for Reading. I am not disagreeing that Madejski and Whelan have done well for their clubs, they have both done brilliantly. But what they have done is appoint good managers ie Pardew at Reading, and Jewell at Wigan. Whelan is an ex player so will obviously have a football knowledge, but that is all they have done, they have appointed good managers. We did well when we appointed Bobby Robson. They have not had demands to buy big players, or build or maintain a bigger financial structure, and keep a far bigger support happy, like they would at Newcastle. These big jobs like ours stretches people to their limit, its the ultimate test and totally different. We probably will never find out though will we ? As for Madejski, he likes being in the papers with Cilla Black - does that constitute a PR gaffe and an embarrassment ..... You are joking arent you? tell me you are. And as for Madjeski and Cilla then no its not a PR gaffe unless hes on tape saying how he uses the clubs money to shag her up the arse every night in a Reading top thats shit quality.

You are right, we have no guarantees that we will gain anything under a new consortium taking over the club however Im willing to take the chance. Can you honestly say that you think we will win something the way we're going under Fred? Every time we have sacked a manager we have gambled on the next one being better unfortunately, that has nearly always been the opposite. Ruud was worse than Dalglish, Souness worse than Robson and frankly so far its looking possible that Roeder will be even more of an embarassment than Souness. If I was a betting man (ok so I am) then Id be more willing to stake my money on an unknown consortium of fans and business getting us silverware than what we currently have. EDIT: I bet there were a few discussions of this sort on numerous Chelsea forums back when Roman was rumoured to be interested but i bet the words "oh how I hark for Batesy back" arent ever heard on the Kings road these days.

I dont think we should stick with Roeder and also shouldnt have stuck with Souness but at the same time I dont think Shepherd had a long term plan for either of these. Even you cant honestly say that you believe Shepherd appointed Roeder for any reasons other than a ) nobody else wanted the job, b ) he was the cheap option, and c ) Shepherd believed (wrongly) that he was the fans choice.

I do recall the pre 92 years (although as I've said before I have the worlds worst football memory and cat remember a game I attended 2 weeks ago wooohooooo!!!!!) however I dont see them as being the thing, I agree with you anyone would appear better than McKeag and co but thats not the issue. You use 1992 as your argument, regardless of whatever role Fred had in those days he wasnt the chairman. The glory years we had at that time were not in his reign. Going back to the "old days" football was a totally different kettle of chickens back then, it wasnt the big business it is now, as you yourself said it was the introduction of SKY that did it. As for the attendances you seem to have missed the point I was making which was that, yes when we were in the 2nd division we had lower attendances but I bet they were higher than most if not all the other teams in that league and thats my point. Newcastle will have higher attendances than most clubs regardless of what happens, with or without Fred. He did not come along in 96 and suddenly have extra fans baying on the door as a consequence. If we had a 50k seater back in 92 then we would have filled it with or without Shepherd. Which brings me back to Wigan, they didnt have the huge fanbase we had when Whelan took over and never will but he has built that club up, got the fans in there and took them forward and he alone, can take the credit for that. As for the others mentioned such as Madjeski I believe he also has proven himself as a chairman way more than Shepherd has for what he has done for Reading.

Ahh but if you reread my post I was, at the time talking about attendances, Newcastle are renowned for their high attendances regardless of how well we are playing (yes they drop at times but still nowhere near the amounts other clubs do when times are hard). We've had this 'discussion' before and I still refute the claims that pre Hall attendances were low because of the chairmen I will always stand by the belief that generally attendances at the time were low as football was in decline generally. The like of Bradford, Hillsborough and the general bad reputation that football had. Compare our attendances at the time to other teams in the same league and we will have been up there at the top. Pre 92 isnt the question though its post 96 when Shepherd took over.

Just looked in my betfair account as I'd placed a small bet (no chance of course) this afternoon and I find that theres another losing bet on there. Now I know I didnt place it, why the fuck would I??????

Was out yesterday with the camera and this twat came leggin it round the corner, managed to get a pic but it really doesnt do the scene justice. Just before I got the pic he had his hand down the front of his piss covered kex!

the bastard match