NJS

I've no objection to not going stupid but think the least we should expect is for all net income via STs and TV to be spent.

What we need is more people like me - I buy an ST and fuck all else - I've never bought anything in the ground (anyone who can't last 2 hours without a pie and pint is a fucking idiot) and I haven't owned a strip since I was about 14. It would be interesting to know what proportion of total income is made up by the "lesser" things people could affect. I think disillusionment will take care of the non ST part of the crowds until xmas.

There seems to be a few posters on N-O who don't/won't see what the problem is. Even before this shit I felt extremely uneasy about him working for us and the lad who I work with who is a Blackburn fan understands it perfectly. There are a lot of players you build up a dislike for over the years - hell even Gus Poyet - but I somehow feel that now he isn't playing I can set the dislike aside. That is not the case with WIse - he was an exceptionally nasty piece of shit as a player and the animosity continues. I can;t think of many others I feel the same way about (though one or two more Wimbledon players come to mind). I've said before that if Keegan had been brought in as a sort of Venables to save us then leave in May allowing the appointment of a long term coach I would have been quite happy. I realise now that would still have left the odious little twat in place which is still not right.

Who reports to who though? (I agree)

Didn't he win the league in 07? I work with a Fener fan so will get his opinion tomorrow.

Unfortunately 19 games of football is all you pay for - there are no attached promises of anything else. ..or 57. Did anyone read the smallprint as to what happens if we get relegated?

Unfortunately 19 games of football is all you pay for - there are no attached promises of anything else.

I was saying that to a mate at Arsenal last week - just say we had gone for Berbatov, I wouldn't have been surprised if Keegan would have persuaded him to come - unlikely maybe but a chance. Note also that also the Schweinsteiger stories don't involve Keegan either - another wasted chance. They used Keegan's affinity with the fans as a PR weapon but couldn't see another of his talents was going to waste.

I'm beginning to think the stupid cunts have made the massive mistake of thinking all of the fans are as thick as the SJP protesters.

The Times article has turned up word for word in the NOTW - blanket smear campaign.

They've got the 12m by taking off Milner's fee to make it look like it was bang on budget until an "unexpected" sale.

According to Skunkers, the times article appeared 11 minutes before the club statement.

Times Read this and weep some more.

As I've said on N-O - this twat is the one responsible for the story that Keegan's list had Ronaldinho and Henry on it - he's obviously to Wise what the cunt Custis is to Allardyce.

Part of me hopes Wise talkes it on just so we can bring all the shit to a head. In reality if it had been deliberate to bring Keegan in in January to stave off relegation, bring a smile back to the place, and yes to endear the owner to the fans with the intention of him leaving with our thanks to be replaced by Deschamps I would have been more than happy. Unfortunately now the job is tainted in my view so whoever takes it is on a hiding to nothing.

Fair enough if I'm being honest - I'd be the same if it was them. It still won't match that boards finest moment - the night we lost to Marseille - the relief from the thought of us coming close to succeeding was explosively orgasmic.

I think theres an element and that's what makes the future worse. People are pissed off with the club and football already and that was with Keegan in charge. Given theres no attractive home games until xmas I think we're in for some shit crowds.

In the cold light of day I'm a bit disappointed with Kevin - I think he could have stuck it out and used the next 4 months to try and negotiaite a new transfer system before it actually matters. As it stands the season is a complete write-off. That doesn't mean that sifting through all the rumours I don't think he was correct in taking a stand but leaving us this fucked, I think he has to take some responsibility.

Would anyone get tired of punching that face?

Not if you're Denis Wise.

Same here, I've just got in. Fuck me, this shit always happens when I'm unable to get near any comms - like Jimbo I'm totally at a loss of how to feel, anger's high up on the list though, Ashley should fucking swing for this. Can anyone give me a quick run down of what I've missed? I've read Kev's leaving statement, is there any other news to it yet? The club's statement suggests they'd offered changes and had asked him to voice any outstanding concerns but he resigned instead - most people think its shite.

I think his intention was to kick start us up a few places, maybe try for a cup, but mainly hand over something decent to his successor - nowt wrong with that at his age.

I get the impression that before Milner left, there was an idea that the squad was "good enough" - something I don't agree on though Keegan was still probably expecting a left back. Milner's sale prompted an increase in demand for a midfielder and I'd guess if Martins and Viduka wern't injured they wouldn't have gone after a striker. Overall I think its the infamous "everyone has a price" for sales that has been the straw - how much shit would we have been in if Owen and Barton had left (numbers wise at least). Having said that I know Kev's statement suggests its purchases that were the stumbling block so we may have to wait to find out who he didn't want.

Being harsh they show a bit of promise but aren't good enough on their own to move us up the table. Then again even with the system working, they've been hamstrung by a shit budget which is down to Ashley. ST money? TV money?