themags 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 the spurs trouble looked different on the tv, the police seemed to back of since they wasnt enough police there and the spurs fans were charging forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 So, if Feyenord got hoyed out of the UEFA cup for crowd trouble, will they hoy out the clubs they find responsible for last nights and tonights trouble? I doubt they'll do anything much. For one it's they moneyspinner competition and secondly it's the police themsevles that were the issue not the club and the can't do much about the police and frankly I doubt they'd have the balls to even IF they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonitfivex 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Aye, they seem to have got a fair bit of stick for standing up for themselves there. NOT LIKE THEM SCOUSERS AT HEYSEL THOUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Aye, they seem to have got a fair bit of stick for standing up for themselves there. NOT LIKE THEM SCOUSERS AT HEYSEL THOUGH There is a difference between defending yourself and killing people. One that a few on Merseyside need to realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonitfivex 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Aye, they seem to have got a fair bit of stick for standing up for themselves there. NOT LIKE THEM SCOUSERS AT HEYSEL THOUGH There is a difference between defending yourself and killing people. One that a few on Merseyside need to realise. oh it is like heysel then except we didnt run into a plastic wall, but yeah everyone can only take so much before you stand up for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Aye, they seem to have got a fair bit of stick for standing up for themselves there. NOT LIKE THEM SCOUSERS AT HEYSEL THOUGH There is a difference between defending yourself and killing people. One that a few on Merseyside need to realise. oh it is like heysel then except we didnt run into a plastic wall, but yeah everyone can only take so much before you stand up for yourself Nothing like it tbh. At Heysel people died. At Hillsborough people died. What was the common demoninator? Bindippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonitfivex 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Nothing like it tbh. At Heysel people died. At Hillsborough people died. What was the common demoninator? Bindippers bad policing is the correct answer do you read the sun by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Nothing like it tbh. At Heysel people died. At Hillsborough people died. What was the common demoninator? Bindippers bad policing is the correct answer do you read the sun by any chance? Bad policing? That is the answer from a bloke who likes to use tickets twice? Any idea how many people died at Hillsborough because dippers without tickets wanted to be in? Once a tramp, always a tramp. Its in your genes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Looks like MJ off N-O got into a bit of bother: Tottenham have accused Spanish police of hitting a disabled fan after trouble broke out during Thursday's Uefa Cup tie in Seville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 So, if Feyenord got hoyed out of the UEFA cup for crowd trouble, will they hoy out the clubs they find responsible for last nights and tonights trouble? I doubt they'll do anything much. For one it's they moneyspinner competition and secondly it's the police themsevles that were the issue not the club and the can't do much about the police and frankly I doubt they'd have the balls to even IF they could. Yeah, because Italian teams have NEVER, EVER got into trouble with Uefa. Typical siege mentality tbh, OMG THEY WILL BOTTLE IT WTFBBQ!!!111!!111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) Speaking of Sewpa Spurs, good to see the BBC jumping on the media bandwagon of wanking over them. Jol's masterplan By Sam Lyon BBC Sport Exclusive A little over two months ago, Tottenham manager Martin Jol could not have been blamed if he was feeling the pressure. An ignominious Carling Cup semi-final defeat to London rivals Arsenal followed a poor run of league form which saw the club drift down the table. The success of last season was a memory, and there were murmurs of discontent among the Spurs faithful. However, eight weeks on and sitting with the Dutchman at the club's training ground, Jol cuts a relaxed figure, talking with the confidence of a man who has always known he is building something special. Five straight league victories have fired Spurs back firmly into European contention and, on Thursday, the club travel to Sevilla for a Uefa Cup quarter-final first leg - their fifth cup quarter-final in three years and first in Europe for 15 years. It is a sign of the Londoners' huge progress under Jol - and that, he says, is just the start. "When I first came here, the club was 15th in the league and had been underachieving for a long time," Jol tells BBC Sport. "I had one simple ambition - to make this club great again. "And year on year we are progressing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but you cannot tell me that we are not getting better, not improving on all fronts. "It is not a story, it's the truth." Jol's reputation was built in Holland, taking ADO Den Haag up through the divisions, winning trophies with Scheveningen and Roda JC, before turning RKC Waalwijk from relegation strugglers to contenders for Europe. He also won the Dutch Football Writers Coach of the Year in 2001 and Dutch Players and Coaches Coach of the Year in 2002, prompting Sir Alex Ferguson to consider him for the assistant manager's role at Manchester United before settling on Carlos Queiroz. However, it was always Spurs that held a place in Jol's heart; "I told a television programme in Holland in 2000, I think, that one day I hoped to manage in the Premiership and especially Spurs. "Tottenham are one of the few clubs in Europe with real style. I love the history, I love the outfit, I love the players they had. "This club has over 1.3m supporters in England alone. Everywhere you go, people know the club - Malta, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia - there are fans all over the world. "Now I am here, it is up to us to fulfil the fans' ambition." That the Dutchman takes his individual responsibility so seriously, is partly in reaction to recent suggestions his authority is clipped by sporting director Damien Comolli or chairman Daniel Levy. He scoffs at the claims and, while his title at the club has changed to 'Manager' this season, Jol insists the continental structure of a sporting director aiding the team coach is one he totally believes in. "I am responsible for all first-team matters," he says. "Damien is supporting me with scouting and the academy, and that is vital because this is a massive job and two heads are better than one. "Both Damien and Daniel give me massive support, and we work very well in this structure." And it is a structure that is definitely paying dividends. After missing out on a European place by just three points in Jol's first season, he led them to fifth in the league last year - the club's highest finish in the league since 1990. And this season, the club's continued success in the league has come alongside sustained runs in all the cups, further proof that Jol certainly has the club on the right track. Spurs have already played 50 matches this season - compared with just 40 in the whole of last term - but it is something Jol relishes. "This is our first season battling on all fronts - in all the cups and the league as well - and I am happy with how it has gone. "No club outside of the top four can boast what we are doing this season. "The schedule is tough, much different to what this club is used to, but that is what we want because that is a sign of our progress. "Next season we want it again, but with more success." And try telling Jol that Tottenham are unlikely to compete for the title in the foreseeable future. "Why shouldn't Spurs be up there, challenging for trophies and titles?" he enquires. "Of course it won't be easy, but we have the fans, the name, the history, and we are building a very nice squad. "I feel we can get honestly back to where we were 40 years ago. "People see the turnover at clubs like Manchester United and Chelsea of course, but it's not all about money. "It is about educating my players that we want to be a top club. We need the mentality that we need to win and perform every single week. "And first and foremost it is about potential, and we have that here I promise you." Jol's ambition is soaked in everything he says regarding Spurs and he insists the club are just "two or three players away from being a really top side". One area of concern for the 51-year-old, is Tottenham's current reliance on players such as Aaron Lennon and Michael Dawson. Lennon, at just 19, has already been involved in 39 matches at all levels this season, while injuries to centre-halves Ledley King and Anthony Gardner have prevented Jol from resting Dawson at all this campaign. "You look at the fact that, this season, I have had to play Dawson and Lennon every single week," he says. "They are terrific players, but you can't gamble on one or two players being fit all the time. "My ideal squad is 22 first-team players, with four or five youngsters coming through. "We want the best young players in Europe and England - there are players in the Championship who are very interesting for us, for example. "We have players who can play at the very highest level, but we could do with a couple more because we want to be as strong as the Chelseas and Manchester Uniteds of this world. "The next step is to get into the top four and to be winning trophies with the first team. That is the ambition." And, with Thursday's Uefa Cup quarter-final against Sevilla just around the corner, Jol is keen to address the trophy situation as soon as possible. "We can win the Uefa Cup," he says. "We face Sevilla and they are probably the best side left in the competition. "But we are a top team too and you have to beat these teams if you want to win trophies. "We have won every match in Europe this season. With the players we have, and with the right mentality, we have no reason to fear anyone." Fear, it seems, is not something that Jol suffers from as he goes about building his Spurs legacy. I will love it if Sevilla knock them out. Edited April 6, 2007 by Bombadil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Fact is you have to admire the blueprint Spurs have on board though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Fact is you have to admire the blueprint Spurs have on board though. I do, but there's also no denying that from 2002-2004, we were doing much better than Spurs are doing now - we were even challenging for the title at one stage. Still the media were never collectively getting their cocks out like they are now doing with Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WubbleUC 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Fact is you have to admire the blueprint Spurs have on board though. I wouldnt mind Spurs at all if the majority of thier fans weren't wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Fact is you have to admire the blueprint Spurs have on board though. I wouldnt mind Spurs at all if the majority of thier fans weren't wankers. Yeah, to be fair their players and managers have rarely ever bothered me at all, in fact they're usually fine. I like Jol, seems like a canny bloke who is also doign a decent job. However their fans and the cockney media bumming them constantly tends to make them incredibly annoying overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Fact is you have to admire the blueprint Spurs have on board though. That P word again tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26348 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 More trouble from the Roma fans tonight. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6538695.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 showing it on SSN now, why are these people going in to the ground an hour before kick off? should be in the pub puffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 OMG NUFFINK EVER GET DONE ABOUT FOREIGNER TEAMS AND THAT LIEK!!!11111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13847 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 OMFG!1!1!1 LOL!!! SARCASM FROM SIMA!!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 It's all gonna kick off again inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Man u 3-0 up inside 20 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Poor man's Reading tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 total manure jizzfest at the mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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