ewerk 6,519 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Still slipping though, ad revenues moving in the wrong direction and net income down. I haven't taken the time to properly read through their statements but number of paid clicks is well up, CPC is down while net cash from operating activities is also increasing. I wouldn't say they're on the 'wayne' just yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 How are they getting their hands on the amazing innovations that Apple make but don't release for 5 years? If Apple are that clever why don't they come to market with these innovations first, rather than let their competitors steal a march on them and constantly have to play catchup? "With iOS 6 you can share things that interest you direct to Facebook, twitter or email direct from the app that you're in." That's nice but I could do that on my HTC Desire years ago. Why hold this stuff back? Are you sure this stuff was their idea that someone else nicked, or is it possible that its them that's pinching this stuff off other people. Besides, the judge has said Samsung aren't playing the role of copycat, which is why Apple are having to publicly apologise. Link to post Share on other sites
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I haven't taken the time to properly read through their statements but number of paid clicks is well up, CPC is down while net cash from operating activities is also increasing. I wouldn't say they're on the 'wayne' just yet. True but the rapid sell off shows where market sentiment is with respect to the robustness of google's business. Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,519 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Isn't that just an iPhone, without the phone bit? Simply an example of Apple playing catchup with their rivals. Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I think in the spirit of fairness, you should also be apologising to the Samsung phone users on here for perpetuating the Samsung copycat lie. Start a thread, eh. Link to post Share on other sites
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Besides, the judge has said Samsung aren't playing the role of copycat, which is why Apple are having to publicly apologise. Its not an apology per se. Lets not lose sight of the first iPad thread on here (started by me) where nothing existed except some failed early prototypes. In the face of incredulity and piss taking, the product takes off and revolutionises the market. Some years later, Samsung come along with a model that looks just like it. In this industry, it would have been remiss of Apple not to force Samsung into costly and resource-diverting litigation on this basis. Its part of the war games. Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,519 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 True but the rapid sell off shows where market sentiment is with respect to the robustness of google's business. More of a correction of unrealistic market expectations imo. I have a feeling that Apple will be experiencing something similar within the next couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 The idea that the iphone and the ipad have not been copied can only come from a very weird and singularly stupid place. You might not be able to patent the concepts for IP protection but lets not lose sight of basic facts. Link to post Share on other sites
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 More of a correction of unrealistic market expectations imo. I have a feeling that Apple will be experiencing something similar within the next couple of years. Explain. Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Lets call it a climbdown then. Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,519 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Explain. As I said, it's a feeling rather than anything based on solid fact. Apple has seen it's rapid growth based on three key products: the ipod, iphone and ipad. With the ipod they weren't first to market, they simply made and marketed MP3 players better than anyone else. Their more recent growth has been due to the iphone and ipad which they did very well but more importantly they launched before anyone else. Their imminent release of the ipad mini is a backward step for me. They're entering into an already developed market rather than releasing anything fresh. Apple need to be leading the industry with fresh innovation and we simply haven't seen that for a few years. They may well have the 'next big thing' in development and launch it next year but I have my doubts. Anyway, just a feeling. Link to post Share on other sites
ChezGiven 0 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 As I said, it's a feeling rather than anything based on solid fact. Apple has seen it's rapid growth based on three key products: the ipod, iphone and ipad. With the ipod they weren't first to market, they simply made and marketed MP3 players better than anyone else. Their more recent growth has been due to the iphone and ipad which they did very well but more importantly they launched before anyone else. Their imminent release of the ipad mini is a backward step for me. They're entering into an already developed market rather than releasing anything fresh. Apple need to be leading the industry with fresh innovation and we simply haven't seen that for a few years. They may well have the 'next big thing' in development and launch it next year but I have my doubts. Anyway, just a feeling. Fair enough but i have to point out that its far less likely that Samsung/Motorola/Nokia or Google/Microsoft are going to make the next big thing work. The next big thing is out there and its based around the frontiers of technology, which are more or less understood by all the tech giants. Its which one as a business can develop the segment as a product which sells. Thats Apple's biggest strength, they can go where others can only really follow. Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Isn't an iPad mini a touch? The one we won has sat unused in a drawer for 3 years cos there is no reason whatsoever to use it over our phones. Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,519 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 It'll essentially be a slightly larger ipod touch I suppose. 4 inch screen vs 7 inch. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,227 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) I see Apple have announced a mini iPad. Also flying under the radar today is the iPad 4 that starts shipping in a fortnight a massive 6 months after the release of the iPad 3 Edited October 23, 2012 by TheRollingStones Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I hear apple stock took a drop too. You selling yet Chez? Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Chez won't want to talk about this utter cuntistry. The interesting narrative is being played out on the business pages, or something. Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 And here's the judgement as "publicised" on Apple's website. See if you can find it. No? I'll give you a clue, it's towards the bottom of the page.... http://www.apple.com/uk/ And here's what they've written. Last paragraph man. What a bunch of dicks. http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/ Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,519 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple's far more popular iPad. Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Gone to the dogs since Jobs kicked the bucket. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 899 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Got the 5 this weekend, App Recommendations anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Android emulator. Link to post Share on other sites
WubbleUC 0 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 The WiFi on my 4s is cattled and has been ever since I stuck iOS 6 on it. Option is greyed out. Done loads to try and fix it but nowt works. Ganna get it swapped I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,835 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Apple have been bollocked for their childish statement about Samsung, and ordered to put a new one on their website within 48 hours. Falling apart for this lot since Jobs died. Sell your shares, Chez. Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Face 27 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 The Ipad mini is getting some excellent reviews tbf Link to post Share on other sites
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