Hughton Sacked

[Guest WDP]

Sad to say but Id have no respect for Pedro if he took over full time.

No doubt the great unwashed will be shouting about Geordie Saviours and all that shite.

Ye can't say that Peter fuckin hell. If someone offered you the chance to be a pornstar would you say nar, cos that's the analogy Pedro would be faced with.

 

Beardsleys dislike of Hughton isnt a great secret and like Bird says hes spent 3 years kissing the arse of Ashley slowly moving himself further up the chain. Should he manage to get a result on Saturday Id say hes nailed on to get the job full time. Then lets see how well we do for transfers etc when the manager is a bloke who backed the chairman over what was supposed to be his mate. Players will be bought and sold by the chairman and the manager will take whatever with a grin and a comedy "obviously".

None of what you say is incorrect, but if he's offered the job full time if you were him, a legend at the club presented with the opportunity of a life time that will probably never come again, would you turn it down? It's harsh to criticise Peter for accepting the challenge no matter how much this situations stinks.

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A 'yes' man or one of Ashley's mates will get it. Jol? I'd be surprised, it'll either be given to Pedro or Pardew. If by some chance Jol was to get it (and I like Jol for what it's worth) I don't think it would last long or end well because he'd probably stand up for himself.

[ohhh_yeah 2795]

He said: "We are all upset that Chris is going. He helped a lot of the lads here with their careers when he was a coach and then as manager.

 

"We will never forget our promotion from the Championship last season and we have to do what he told us. Stick together, make sure we keep the unity Chris has built up and get through this difficult period.

 

"It goes without saying we were shocked by the announcement."

 

Former Bolton midfielder Nolan also paid tribute to how Hughton conducted himself after being informed of his fate, revealing that he had wished the players well for the remainder of the campaign.

 

"Chris was gutted about what had happened. You could see that," Nolan continued.

 

"But it said so much about him that, even though he was obviously disappointed to be going, he was still telling me and Joey (Barton) that we had to make sure we had a good season.

 

"There was such dignity about the way he left, which is how he conducted himself while he was the manager."

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-u..._medium=twitter

[ohhh_yeah 2795]

Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley has shown absolutely no class in sacking Chris Hughton

 

A long-standing, well-fancied contender for the title, Mike Ashley may just have slipped ahead of Blatter. Ashley’s decision to sack Chris Hughton demonstrated everything you needed to know about the Newcastle United chairman’s absence of class as a human being and an employer.

 

In dismissing Hughton, Ashley has done more than mistreat one of English football’s most popular and promising managers, an uncomplaining character who has dealt well with the many problems thrown at him on Tyneside. Ashley has shown contempt to Newcastle’s passionate supporters, who will be there on Gallowgate long after Ashley has sold up and sloped back south.

 

None of the Toon Army’s many foot soldiers racing to the phone-ins, Twitter and online forums could find any sense in Hughton’s defenestration. They liked Hughton, respecting his desire to take the post when nobody else would touch it.

 

Newcastle’s followers admired Hughton’s dignity and lack of ego. They enjoyed his commitment to attacking football, particularly loving results like Newcastle 5 Sunderland 1. They chanted Hughton’s name, backed him relentlessly, and now he’s sacked.

 

If Ashley behaved in similar offhand fashion towards customers at his sports merchandise emporium his business would not survive long.Newcastle fans deserve so much better. No wonder they were enraged.

 

Of the many critical comments made about Ashley, one of the comical ones hit home hardest: apparently Gazza turned up at St James’ with some sandwiches and some beer, asking to see Ashley before he did something stupid.

 

No laughter could drown out the howls of anger. No whisper of the old favourite that usually prefaces sackings, “losing the dressing room”, could be heard. If Newcastle players could be accused of lacking heart in the 3-1 defeat to West Brom it may have been that they knew what was going on, that Hughton was on borrowed time.

 

Now their immediate fortunes will be overseen by Peter Beardsley, who is close to Ashley but not the players. Beardsley loves his trips to London for West End shows and now he is cast in the role of The Caretaker. It promises to be a short run.

The frontrunner to take over at Ashley’s Circus is Martin Jol, a decent enough option but hardly brimming with the experience and stellar appeal that might mollify a seething St James’ Park.

 

The problem with any manager of genuine substance like Martin O’Neill considering joining Newcastle is that Ashley wants to sell the club. Whoever goes for the Newcastle manager’s job knows that new owners could arrive in 2011 and want to install their own man. Applier beware. Whether Jol, O'Neill or Alan Pardew, whoever arrives would be advised to check the small print in an Ashley contract. Good luck - and make sure you buy a return ticket..

 

What is particularly inexplicable is that Hughton fitted Ashley’s template for being inexpensive in salary and budgetary requirements.

 

He blooded youngsters. He delivered promotion back to the Premier League and had the Toon punching above their weight, currently sitting 11th on 19 points. Five more wins and a couple of draws will probably secure their elite status.

 

Ashley’s people praised Hughton’s work in the team’s “transition” from Championship to Premier League. Transition? Miracle more like.

 

After years of instability, Newcastle actually seemed settled.

 

But then came Ashley, not just rocking the boat but overturning it in the Tyne. How naive. When a series of storms rolled towards St James’, Hughton handled them well. He has worked hard in trying to make Andy Carroll a better person as well as a better player. Hughton never whinged when Hatem Ben Arfa was incapacitated by Nigel de Jong. He just got on with it.

 

When injury and suspension deprived him of his first-choice centre-halves, Hughton just scrambled the ageing and the creaking, Sol Campbell and Steven Taylor, who performed wonders for him in taming Didier Drogba in the draw with Chelsea. They were given the runabout by Peter Odemwingie at The Hawthorns on Sunday but, in hindsight, it seemed the whole team were in mourning for something.

 

Make that someone. Hughton was well-liked in the dressing-room, where the players respected his unflappability despite losing his No 2 Colin Calderwood. People within the British game clearly felt Hughton and his coaching staff were doing a good job as Calderwood was head-hunted by Hibernian. Hughton will have no problem finding employment. West Ham could be available soon.

 

In public and private, Hughton has been the model of discretion. He is not a man to dwell on his role in triumphs, whether as a nimble, industrious full-back for Tottenham Hotspur in the 1984 Uefa Cup final or in lifting the Championship trophy.

He didn’t rush to bask in the limelight after such memorable victories this season at Everton and Arsenal or crow after such triumphs over Sunderland or Aston Villa. Hughton is too classy a man, too keen to praise the exertions of his players and too respectful towards vanquished opponents.

 

Hughton leaves with the ingratitude of the board but with the thanks and sympathy of the people who matter, the fans and players. On his way out of St James’, politely declining comment, Hughton could hold his head high.

 

Not Ashley, who was busy releasing a statement that took hypocrisy to new levels. He praised Hughton’s “exceptional character and commitment”, exactly the traits Ashley is bereft of. Hughton out, Ashley remains. English football has lost a principled man but kept a shameless chairman.

 

 

 

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[manc-mag 1]

We had such a straightforward remit for this season: stay up. Do you know what, he would have kept us up.

 

If it's experienced managers you're after, they're not going to be any less experienced by next summer. If it's Pardew you're after specifically, you can safely assume he'll still be available then too.

 

I just don't know where you start with this.

[shackbleep 0]

Jol set for Newcastle talks

 

Martin Jol was last night favourite to replace sacked Chris Hughton as Newcastle faced an angry backlash from players and fans.

 

Mirrorsport can today reveal the behind the scenes tensions that blew Hughton’s reign apart - including having to play a fantasy football prediction game with owner Mike Ashley, and conflict over appointing caretaker boss Peter Beardsley as his No2.

 

Hughton was axed at 2pm yesterday by MD Derek Llambias after a five-game winless run - and ex Spurs boss Jol, who has interested Newcastle since the summer, last night quit his job as Ajax coach.

 

Jol quit Ajax by mutual consent six hours after Hughton was sacked, and last night his odds crashed from 40-1 outsider to 5-4 favourite to succeed Hughton.

 

And he is now ready to speak to Newcastle about his dream of returning to the Premier League.

 

Hughton was on a £400,000 a year deal which expired in June, meaning he was cheap to sack.

 

He said last night: “We have built on last season’s momentum following promotion back up to the Barclays Premier League and have produced some excellent results to see us sitting midway in the table at this stage of the season.

 

“I am immensely proud of my achievements with Newcastle and I enjoyed a fantastic relationship with the players, my staff and the supporters during my time as manager. I now wish them and the club all the very best for the future. The termination of my contract is now in the hands of the League Managers’ Association and I will therefore be making no further comment at this stage.”

 

United want to appoint a “more experienced boss” that can be a more high profile figurehead. One factor is that the club want to feature in more live Sky games which earn almost £500,000 a game, and they believed Hughton’s low key approach didn’t help sell the club in the Premier League.

 

Hughton was put “on trial” in October when United first refused to hand his a new contract, and while they were keen for him to succeed, poor home form against supposed lesser clubs didn’t help his cause.

 

Jol is not the only candidate with former West Ham and Southampton boss Pardew “strongly interested” in the job, while Llambias has also met old friend Alan Curbishley in the past couple of weeks.

 

Martin O’Neill would be a high risk appointment given his walk out on Aston Villa and need for a budget and no interference. Other candidates include Steve McClaren who is fire-fighting at Wolfsburg, while Peter Beardsley, a favourite in the boardroom and now caretaker, will be in the frame for a senior coaching role.

 

There was huge sympathy for dignified Hughton last night, whose side produced memorable wins against Aston Villa (6-0), Sunderland (5-1) and Arsenal at the Emirates this season.

 

Veteran defender Sol Campbell warning his departure made “no sense” and will have a negative effect in the dressing room.

 

Campbell said: “Chris is such a lovely guy. Top man. This will hit the players hard. The players admired him, and liked him, and won’t be happy now he’s gone like this.”

 

“You have got to ask yourself why this has happened because it makes no sense. Here is a guy who has done an unbelievable job. He got the club back into the Premier League and any manager would have been rewarded for that with a new contract - but Chris wasn’t.

 

“The players are sure to be asking themselves ‘what the hell is going on?’, that is only natural.

 

“We all know he had a good relationship with the players, and when we left training this morning none of the players had a clue this was coming.

 

“But word started to spread that the bookies had stopped taking bets and the players started texting each other with the news. Yes, it has come as a shock, and it will effect the dressing room there is no doubt about that.”

 

LMA chief Richard Bevan said: “Not only did Chris secure promotion back to the Barclays Premier League, but achieved two club records in the process; 102 points to secure promotion and the longest sequence of unbeaten league matches (17).

 

“Throughout his time at Newcastle Chris has conducted himself with tremendous integrity and dignity, the team’s current position of 11th demonstrating the stabilising effect Chris has had in his role as manager during his period at Newcastle.”

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Marti...icle645841.html

 

[manc-mag 1]

Jol set for Newcastle talks

 

Martin Jol was last night favourite to replace sacked Chris Hughton as Newcastle faced an angry backlash from players and fans.

 

Mirrorsport can today reveal the behind the scenes tensions that blew Hughton's reign apart - including having to play a fantasy football prediction game with owner Mike Ashley, and conflict over appointing caretaker boss Peter Beardsley as his No2.

 

Hughton was axed at 2pm yesterday by MD Derek Llambias after a five-game winless run - and ex Spurs boss Jol, who has interested Newcastle since the summer, last night quit his job as Ajax coach.

 

Jol quit Ajax by mutual consent six hours after Hughton was sacked, and last night his odds crashed from 40-1 outsider to 5-4 favourite to succeed Hughton.

 

And he is now ready to speak to Newcastle about his dream of returning to the Premier League.

 

Hughton was on a £400,000 a year deal which expired in June, meaning he was cheap to sack.

 

He said last night: "We have built on last season's momentum following promotion back up to the Barclays Premier League and have produced some excellent results to see us sitting midway in the table at this stage of the season.

 

"I am immensely proud of my achievements with Newcastle and I enjoyed a fantastic relationship with the players, my staff and the supporters during my time as manager. I now wish them and the club all the very best for the future. The termination of my contract is now in the hands of the League Managers' Association and I will therefore be making no further comment at this stage."

 

United want to appoint a "more experienced boss" that can be a more high profile figurehead. One factor is that the club want to feature in more live Sky games which earn almost £500,000 a game, and they believed Hughton's low key approach didn't help sell the club in the Premier League.

 

Hughton was put "on trial" in October when United first refused to hand his a new contract, and while they were keen for him to succeed, poor home form against supposed lesser clubs didn't help his cause.

 

Jol is not the only candidate with former West Ham and Southampton boss Pardew "strongly interested" in the job, while Llambias has also met old friend Alan Curbishley in the past couple of weeks.

 

Martin O'Neill would be a high risk appointment given his walk out on Aston Villa and need for a budget and no interference. Other candidates include Steve McClaren who is fire-fighting at Wolfsburg, while Peter Beardsley, a favourite in the boardroom and now caretaker, will be in the frame for a senior coaching role.

 

There was huge sympathy for dignified Hughton last night, whose side produced memorable wins against Aston Villa (6-0), Sunderland (5-1) and Arsenal at the Emirates this season.

 

Veteran defender Sol Campbell warning his departure made "no sense" and will have a negative effect in the dressing room.

 

Campbell said: "Chris is such a lovely guy. Top man. This will hit the players hard. The players admired him, and liked him, and won't be happy now he's gone like this."

 

"You have got to ask yourself why this has happened because it makes no sense. Here is a guy who has done an unbelievable job. He got the club back into the Premier League and any manager would have been rewarded for that with a new contract - but Chris wasn't.

 

"The players are sure to be asking themselves 'what the hell is going on?', that is only natural.

 

"We all know he had a good relationship with the players, and when we left training this morning none of the players had a clue this was coming.

 

"But word started to spread that the bookies had stopped taking bets and the players started texting each other with the news. Yes, it has come as a shock, and it will effect the dressing room there is no doubt about that."

 

LMA chief Richard Bevan said: "Not only did Chris secure promotion back to the Barclays Premier League, but achieved two club records in the process; 102 points to secure promotion and the longest sequence of unbeaten league matches (17).

 

"Throughout his time at Newcastle Chris has conducted himself with tremendous integrity and dignity, the team's current position of 11th demonstrating the stabilising effect Chris has had in his role as manager during his period at Newcastle."

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Marti...icle645841.html

 

 

You can honestly believe the bit about wanting someone who'd court the sky camera's attention more. For fuck's sake.

[shackbleep 0]

REVEALED: Why Hughton got the Newcastle bullet

 

Chris Hughton's crazy world as Newcastle boss can today be revealed – including being forced to battle owner Mike Ashley in fantasy football results.

 

Hughton had spent the last three months on the verge of being axed by managing director Derek ­Llambias and Ashley – because they want a manager who is more ­“showbusiness” and can grab the club headlines on the world stage.

 

The ex-Tottenham coach kept a dignified calm in public, but was constantly fighting confrontation behind the scenes that could put Newcastle’s pursuit of a major managerial figure in jeopardy.

 

•Hughton was required to submit a list of predictions for future games and discuss them with the United chiefs... whose own fantasy football ­guesswork has forecast that the Geordies will finish in 11th place this season.

 

•Sources close to the Hughton camp have let slip that he had a furious bust-up with the top brass immediately AFTER beating Sunderland 5-1 in the club’s greatest derby triumph in living memory.

 

What should have been a night of unbridled celebration was soured for Hughton because he was accused of milking the crowd as the Toon Army chanted his name.

 

•Hughton was expected to hold meetings with Ashley and Llambias just before games, and respect their footballing input. Former boss Kevin Keegan routinely ignored such interference so close to a match but Hughton, in a bid to keep the peace, always made himself ­available.

 

There is no suggestion he took any notice of the feedback he was given, but Ashley and Llambias regard themselves as ­knowledgeable football fans, whose opinion is valid on even small tactical matters.

 

•Hughton was also furious that his close relationship with senior players, treating them as human beings with opinions rather than schoolchildren, ended up being perceived as a weakness and an example of ‘bowing to player power’. He angrily denied such charges last Friday.

 

Hughton was sacked at 2pm yesterday after being summoned to St James’ Park.

 

The timing has been widely condemned with the Magpies five points clear of the drop zone in 11th. But they are on a five-game run without a victory, with only two points from the last 15.

 

Hughton had been effectively ‘on trial’ since September and needed to prove himself as a top- flight boss, despite his obvious heroics in taking Newcastle from the wreckage of relegation, and knitting together a strong team- spirit that clinched ­promotion in style.

 

Ashley and ­Llambias were adamant that Hughton would not be getting a new, big-money contract extension.

 

The big reason cited behind the scenes is that they want a boss who can attract the Sky cameras to St James’ more often, at almost £500,00 per televised match.

 

While Hughton’s measured exterior was just what the club needed to calm the chaos of the relegation season, Ashley and his cohorts reckon that more spark is needed to sell the club now they are surrounded by the glitz and worldwide profile of the Premier League.

 

Plans to sack Hughton surfaced in October after Newcastle were thrashed at home by Arsenal in the Carling Cup.

 

Yet the club issued this statement: “Chris is our manager and will remain our manager. It is our intention to renegotiate his contract at end of year.”

 

Privately, United were happy to see Hughton’s job ­insecurity was out in the open. To understand why, is to ­understand how Ashley runs his businesses.

 

His top lieutenants love a good verbal scrap. Swearing and cursing each other is a way of life, and he relishes the creative tension it produces. It is the same when it comes to Newcastle.

 

The next boss had better be a tough operator.

 

Ironically, United cashed in on the rumours swirling around in autumn. The players united in support of Hughton, convincingly beat Sunderland before going to Arsenal to record a shock win.

 

But Hughton was badly ­weakened by his No.2 Colin Calderwood departing to manage Hibs, with rows about a successor dragging on for weeks.

 

It became impossible for Hughton to find a replacement given that there was no contract to secure his own job.

 

Club insiders are grooming Peter Beardsley for a senior managerial position as he has been a constant supporter of the Ashley regime, but they want experience this time round.

 

Beardo was placed in caretaker charge last night alongside Steve Stone. In the end, perhaps Hughton was done for precisely because he kept a lid on the hidden moments of turmoil.

 

Had he taken on Ashley and Llambias in public it may not have done him many favours, but up to the end he retained the backing of the Toon Army.

 

There was not one moment when the Geordie fans turned against him.

 

Every week they sang his name, and Hughton, modestly, almost reluctantly, clapped back in their direction.

 

He could rant and rave when standards slipped, but he also earned respect for protecting the players during difficult moments, including dressing-room scraps and sticky results.

 

He was a straight man, who played a straight bat in public, while also being passionate.

 

It was precisely what the club needed to settle the turmoil of the previous decade and claw back some stability.

 

That stability was blown apart by Ashley yesterday.

 

Hughton certainly didn’t deserve it.

 

The timing of the sacking was strange but, as explained, not totally ­unexpected.

 

He walks away with a modest pay-off of less than £200,000 – compared to the £4.5million it cost to get rid of Sam Allardyce. But at least he leaves with great dignity and the total respect of the Geordie faithful, and football fans everywhere.

 

They will sing their goodbyes for him at the Liverpool game this Saturday, for sure.

 

Unfortunately, Chris Hughton will not be around to milk it in front of the directors.

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Why-C...icle645857.html

[wykikitoon 16904]

Weve been on TV loads this season though :S

[Christmas Tree 3997]

REVEALED: Why Hughton got the Newcastle bullet

 

Chris Hughton's crazy world as Newcastle boss can today be revealed – including being forced to battle owner Mike Ashley in fantasy football results.

 

Hughton had spent the last three months on the verge of being axed by managing director Derek ­Llambias and Ashley – because they want a manager who is more ­“showbusiness” and can grab the club headlines on the world stage.

 

The ex-Tottenham coach kept a dignified calm in public, but was constantly fighting confrontation behind the scenes that could put Newcastle’s pursuit of a major managerial figure in jeopardy.

 

•Hughton was required to submit a list of predictions for future games and discuss them with the United chiefs... whose own fantasy football ­guesswork has forecast that the Geordies will finish in 11th place this season.

 

•Sources close to the Hughton camp have let slip that he had a furious bust-up with the top brass immediately AFTER beating Sunderland 5-1 in the club’s greatest derby triumph in living memory.

 

What should have been a night of unbridled celebration was soured for Hughton because he was accused of milking the crowd as the Toon Army chanted his name.

 

•Hughton was expected to hold meetings with Ashley and Llambias just before games, and respect their footballing input. Former boss Kevin Keegan routinely ignored such interference so close to a match but Hughton, in a bid to keep the peace, always made himself ­available.

 

There is no suggestion he took any notice of the feedback he was given, but Ashley and Llambias regard themselves as ­knowledgeable football fans, whose opinion is valid on even small tactical matters.

 

•Hughton was also furious that his close relationship with senior players, treating them as human beings with opinions rather than schoolchildren, ended up being perceived as a weakness and an example of ‘bowing to player power’. He angrily denied such charges last Friday.

 

Hughton was sacked at 2pm yesterday after being summoned to St James’ Park.

 

The timing has been widely condemned with the Magpies five points clear of the drop zone in 11th. But they are on a five-game run without a victory, with only two points from the last 15.

 

Hughton had been effectively ‘on trial’ since September and needed to prove himself as a top- flight boss, despite his obvious heroics in taking Newcastle from the wreckage of relegation, and knitting together a strong team- spirit that clinched ­promotion in style.

 

Ashley and ­Llambias were adamant that Hughton would not be getting a new, big-money contract extension.

 

The big reason cited behind the scenes is that they want a boss who can attract the Sky cameras to St James’ more often, at almost £500,00 per televised match.

 

While Hughton’s measured exterior was just what the club needed to calm the chaos of the relegation season, Ashley and his cohorts reckon that more spark is needed to sell the club now they are surrounded by the glitz and worldwide profile of the Premier League.

 

Plans to sack Hughton surfaced in October after Newcastle were thrashed at home by Arsenal in the Carling Cup.

 

Yet the club issued this statement: “Chris is our manager and will remain our manager. It is our intention to renegotiate his contract at end of year.”

 

Privately, United were happy to see Hughton’s job ­insecurity was out in the open. To understand why, is to ­understand how Ashley runs his businesses.

 

His top lieutenants love a good verbal scrap. Swearing and cursing each other is a way of life, and he relishes the creative tension it produces. It is the same when it comes to Newcastle.

 

The next boss had better be a tough operator.

 

Ironically, United cashed in on the rumours swirling around in autumn. The players united in support of Hughton, convincingly beat Sunderland before going to Arsenal to record a shock win.

 

But Hughton was badly ­weakened by his No.2 Colin Calderwood departing to manage Hibs, with rows about a successor dragging on for weeks.

 

It became impossible for Hughton to find a replacement given that there was no contract to secure his own job.

 

Club insiders are grooming Peter Beardsley for a senior managerial position as he has been a constant supporter of the Ashley regime, but they want experience this time round.

 

Beardo was placed in caretaker charge last night alongside Steve Stone. In the end, perhaps Hughton was done for precisely because he kept a lid on the hidden moments of turmoil.

 

Had he taken on Ashley and Llambias in public it may not have done him many favours, but up to the end he retained the backing of the Toon Army.

 

There was not one moment when the Geordie fans turned against him.

 

Every week they sang his name, and Hughton, modestly, almost reluctantly, clapped back in their direction.

 

He could rant and rave when standards slipped, but he also earned respect for protecting the players during difficult moments, including dressing-room scraps and sticky results.

 

He was a straight man, who played a straight bat in public, while also being passionate.

 

It was precisely what the club needed to settle the turmoil of the previous decade and claw back some stability.

 

That stability was blown apart by Ashley yesterday.

 

Hughton certainly didn’t deserve it.

 

The timing of the sacking was strange but, as explained, not totally ­unexpected.

 

He walks away with a modest pay-off of less than £200,000 – compared to the £4.5million it cost to get rid of Sam Allardyce. But at least he leaves with great dignity and the total respect of the Geordie faithful, and football fans everywhere.

 

They will sing their goodbyes for him at the Liverpool game this Saturday, for sure.

 

Unfortunately, Chris Hughton will not be around to milk it in front of the directors.

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Why-C...icle645857.html

 

 

Posted last night man when the real men were still up

[shackbleep 0]

Obviously ESPN aren't paying as much as Sky

 

What I can't fathom with this is they got rid of Keegan because he was too high profile for them - wanted too much control for their liking, they wanted a 'yes' man who would quietly do his job without question.

 

Now they've got rid of Hughton citing that they want a profile who is as close to Keegan's stature as you can get!

 

Contrary beyond belief these two fuckers...

[Guest WDP]

Weve been on TV loads this season though :S

The telly reason is a total load of bollocks, we've been on more than Man City and Tottenham. 500k per game, as if that makes a difference, someone like Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton a year anyway. Poor journalism from Bird who I know from years ago and is a really good lad.

[manc-mag 1]

Tell you what like, it's sad as fuck how may times in the 10 year history of this message board and it's predecessor we've been in this situation saying the same things. You could literally cut and paste the Roeder, Souness, Allardyce, Keegan, JFK etc appointment/dismissal posts into this thread and you'd only need to change the names for it to read seamlessly.

Edited December 7, 2010 by manc-mag

[Monkeys Fist 38982]

REVEALED: Why Hughton got the Newcastle bullet

 

Chris Hughton's crazy world as Newcastle boss can today be revealed – including being forced to battle owner Mike Ashley in fantasy football results.

 

Hughton had spent the last three months on the verge of being axed by managing director Derek ­Llambias and Ashley – because they want a manager who is more ­“showbusiness” and can grab the club headlines on the world stage.

 

The ex-Tottenham coach kept a dignified calm in public, but was constantly fighting confrontation behind the scenes that could put Newcastle’s pursuit of a major managerial figure in jeopardy.

 

•Hughton was required to submit a list of predictions for future games and discuss them with the United chiefs... whose own fantasy football ­guesswork has forecast that the Geordies will finish in 11th place this season.

 

•Sources close to the Hughton camp have let slip that he had a furious bust-up with the top brass immediately AFTER beating Sunderland 5-1 in the club’s greatest derby triumph in living memory.

 

What should have been a night of unbridled celebration was soured for Hughton because he was accused of milking the crowd as the Toon Army chanted his name.

 

•Hughton was expected to hold meetings with Ashley and Llambias just before games, and respect their footballing input. Former boss Kevin Keegan routinely ignored such interference so close to a match but Hughton, in a bid to keep the peace, always made himself ­available.

 

There is no suggestion he took any notice of the feedback he was given, but Ashley and Llambias regard themselves as ­knowledgeable football fans, whose opinion is valid on even small tactical matters.

 

•Hughton was also furious that his close relationship with senior players, treating them as human beings with opinions rather than schoolchildren, ended up being perceived as a weakness and an example of ‘bowing to player power’. He angrily denied such charges last Friday.

 

Hughton was sacked at 2pm yesterday after being summoned to St James’ Park.

 

The timing has been widely condemned with the Magpies five points clear of the drop zone in 11th. But they are on a five-game run without a victory, with only two points from the last 15.

 

Hughton had been effectively ‘on trial’ since September and needed to prove himself as a top- flight boss, despite his obvious heroics in taking Newcastle from the wreckage of relegation, and knitting together a strong team- spirit that clinched ­promotion in style.

 

Ashley and ­Llambias were adamant that Hughton would not be getting a new, big-money contract extension.

 

The big reason cited behind the scenes is that they want a boss who can attract the Sky cameras to St James’ more often, at almost £500,00 per televised match.

 

While Hughton’s measured exterior was just what the club needed to calm the chaos of the relegation season, Ashley and his cohorts reckon that more spark is needed to sell the club now they are surrounded by the glitz and worldwide profile of the Premier League.

 

Plans to sack Hughton surfaced in October after Newcastle were thrashed at home by Arsenal in the Carling Cup.

 

Yet the club issued this statement: “Chris is our manager and will remain our manager. It is our intention to renegotiate his contract at end of year.”

 

Privately, United were happy to see Hughton’s job ­insecurity was out in the open. To understand why, is to ­understand how Ashley runs his businesses.

 

His top lieutenants love a good verbal scrap. Swearing and cursing each other is a way of life, and he relishes the creative tension it produces. It is the same when it comes to Newcastle.

 

The next boss had better be a tough operator.

 

Ironically, United cashed in on the rumours swirling around in autumn. The players united in support of Hughton, convincingly beat Sunderland before going to Arsenal to record a shock win.

 

But Hughton was badly ­weakened by his No.2 Colin Calderwood departing to manage Hibs, with rows about a successor dragging on for weeks.

 

It became impossible for Hughton to find a replacement given that there was no contract to secure his own job.

 

Club insiders are grooming Peter Beardsley for a senior managerial position as he has been a constant supporter of the Ashley regime, but they want experience this time round.

 

Beardo was placed in caretaker charge last night alongside Steve Stone. In the end, perhaps Hughton was done for precisely because he kept a lid on the hidden moments of turmoil.

 

Had he taken on Ashley and Llambias in public it may not have done him many favours, but up to the end he retained the backing of the Toon Army.

 

There was not one moment when the Geordie fans turned against him.

 

Every week they sang his name, and Hughton, modestly, almost reluctantly, clapped back in their direction.

 

He could rant and rave when standards slipped, but he also earned respect for protecting the players during difficult moments, including dressing-room scraps and sticky results.

 

He was a straight man, who played a straight bat in public, while also being passionate.

 

It was precisely what the club needed to settle the turmoil of the previous decade and claw back some stability.

 

That stability was blown apart by Ashley yesterday.

 

Hughton certainly didn’t deserve it.

 

The timing of the sacking was strange but, as explained, not totally ­unexpected.

 

He walks away with a modest pay-off of less than £200,000 – compared to the £4.5million it cost to get rid of Sam Allardyce. But at least he leaves with great dignity and the total respect of the Geordie faithful, and football fans everywhere.

 

They will sing their goodbyes for him at the Liverpool game this Saturday, for sure.

 

Unfortunately, Chris Hughton will not be around to milk it in front of the directors.

 

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Why-C...icle645857.html

 

 

Posted last night man when the real men were still up

And the Taboo Crew.…

 

 

If even one part of the above is true, we are royally fucked as long as the Fatman owns us.

Not earth shattering news really, just depressing to have it brought starkly into focus again.

[manc-mag 1]

Weve been on TV loads this season though :S

The telly reason is a total load of bollocks, we've been on more than Man City and Tottenham. 500k per game, as if that makes a difference, someone like Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton a year anyway. Poor journalism from Bird who I know from years ago and is a really good lad.

 

Whether its bollocks or not, people are only too willing to believe his only transfer policy is to make a couple million quid here or there (I don't think that way for the record, but lots of people do) so I don't know why the sky theory is so outlandish by comparison. Again, whether it's true or not.

[Monkeys Fist 38982]

Obviously ESPN aren't paying as much as Sky

 

What I can't fathom with this is they got rid of Keegan because he was too high profile for them - wanted too much control for their liking, they wanted a 'yes' man who would quietly do his job without question.

 

Now they've got rid of Hughton citing that they want a profile who is as close to Keegan's stature as you can get!

 

Contrary beyond belief these two fuckers...

Or a pair of lieing cunts who are making it up as they stumble along.

[Bibble 0]

Aaaaaargh! It's just another case of idiots making decisons for the wrong reasons at the wrong times. It just makes me shake my head and feel sad.

 

Can't see how anyone with the kind of experience the club is looking for would go anywhere near Ashley's employ. And imo anyone who does will be viewed with suspicion and will need time to win round the fans. Not ideal in a relegation battle.

 

Anyone know if the increased relegation parachute payments would cover our costs this time round? Has Mike been doing some maths?

 

Does Pedro or Stone have the required badges to be appointed a PL manager? FFS what kind of track record in organising and motivating top level footballers do they have. [insert cheap shot at Pedro's lack of vocal clarity here]

 

Pass the gun...

[Happy Face 29]

Obviously ESPN aren't paying as much as Sky

 

What I can't fathom with this is they got rid of Keegan because he was too high profile for them - wanted too much control for their liking, they wanted a 'yes' man who would quietly do his job without question.

 

Now they've got rid of Hughton citing that they want a profile who is as close to Keegan's stature as you can get!

 

Contrary beyond belief these two fuckers...

 

The way I see it they got rid of Keegan for not doing as he was told (signing players he hadn't seen) and they've got rid of Hughton for not doing as he's told (appointing Beardo number 2).

[Guest WDP]

Weve been on TV loads this season though :S

The telly reason is a total load of bollocks, we've been on more than Man City and Tottenham. 500k per game, as if that makes a difference, someone like Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton a year anyway. Poor journalism from Bird who I know from years ago and is a really good lad.

 

Whether its bollocks or not, people are only too willing to believe his only transfer policy is to make a couple million quid here or there (I don't think that way for the record, but lots of people do) so I don't know why the sky theory is so outlandish by comparison. Again, whether it's true or not.

The notion of it isn't outlandish, but on this occasion it's unlikely. As I say if we were on four more times than we have been we'd be on more than Man Utd. He made a mistake Bird.

[Ketsbaia 0]

Weve been on TV loads this season though :S

The telly reason is a total load of bollocks, we've been on more than Man City and Tottenham. 500k per game, as if that makes a difference, someone like Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton a year anyway. Poor journalism from Bird who I know from years ago and is a really good lad.

 

It chimes with what some people ITK have said elsewhere, especially the bit about him milking the applause.

[Christmas Tree 3997]

Weve been on TV loads this season though :S

The telly reason is a total load of bollocks, we've been on more than Man City and Tottenham. 500k per game, as if that makes a difference, someone like Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton a year anyway. Poor journalism from Bird who I know from years ago and is a really good lad.

 

It chimes with what some people ITK have said elsewhere, especially the bit about him milking the applause.

 

 

Cant see how the manager of a club has any bearing on whether there on sky other than the team is playing very good football (which we have at times this season).

 

I have never thought to myself, I must watch such and suchs club game so that I can hear the post match comments from manager x

[Guest WDP]

Weve been on TV loads this season though :S

The telly reason is a total load of bollocks, we've been on more than Man City and Tottenham. 500k per game, as if that makes a difference, someone like Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton a year anyway. Poor journalism from Bird who I know from years ago and is a really good lad.

 

It chimes with what some people ITK have said elsewhere, especially the bit about him milking the applause.

That might be right, and if it is we know what a cunt Ashley is, but the man is a cunt of epic proportions if that is true, he wasn't even milking the applause he was just celebrating. The telly thing, there's only three teams been on more than us, so I think it's a load of bollocks. As I said Jol would cost £2m more than Hughton which is 4 tv appearances more, so it doesnt wash as a reason with me.

[Guest alex]

Obviously ESPN aren't paying as much as Sky

 

What I can't fathom with this is they got rid of Keegan because he was too high profile for them - wanted too much control for their liking, they wanted a 'yes' man who would quietly do his job without question.

 

Now they've got rid of Hughton citing that they want a profile who is as close to Keegan's stature as you can get!

 

Contrary beyond belief these two fuckers...

Good point. What exactly do they want? I reckon Ashley changes his mind all the time. Wakes up one day and decides Dennis Wise is good for the club, etc.

[Guest alex]

Obviously ESPN aren't paying as much as Sky

 

What I can't fathom with this is they got rid of Keegan because he was too high profile for them - wanted too much control for their liking, they wanted a 'yes' man who would quietly do his job without question.

 

Now they've got rid of Hughton citing that they want a profile who is as close to Keegan's stature as you can get!

 

Contrary beyond belief these two fuckers...

 

The way I see it they got rid of Keegan for not doing as he was told (signing players he hadn't seen) and they've got rid of Hughton for not doing as he's told (appointing Beardo number 2).

Allegedly Beardsley didn't want the number 2 job as he thought Hughton wouldn't last long anyway so he'd be tarred with the same brush. I think you're right though in that neither toed the line so that is unltimately why they 'had' to go.

[Ayatollah Hermione 12825]

I'm still at a loss for how Ashley was once a billionaire. How can one person continually make the wrong decisions with every facet of his assets?