Happy Face 29 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This is how it went. MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks. Dekka Yeah, take it Guv MA What about the mongs outside? Carroll I'll put in a request... MA Eh? What? Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss... MA At right. Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye.. MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh).. I reckon Carroll assumed he wouldn't need to put a request in...hence it coming so late in the day after 2 rejections. He started to panic that his dream contract was disappearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Cant believe people are taking this transfer request as a straight up wish for AC to leave. All too convenient for Ashley imo. Deflecting stick away from him to the player. Course he wanted to leave. An extra £4 million a year....£20m over the length of his contract or something. Ridiculous to think he'd not be keen. And just as importantly, why are people so intent that carroll would want to help ashley!!! The only answer would be money, making him a greedy bastards as i said earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin 1 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 There's not a feeling in the world like playing infront of my people wearing the number nine shirt in the town i was born and bread in its just something money can not buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 right couple of wankers just been on NE news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This is how it went. MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks. Dekka Yeah, take it Guv MA What about the mongs outside? Carroll I'll put in a request... MA Eh? What? Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss... MA At right. Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye.. MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh).. I reckon Carroll assumed he wouldn't need to put a request in...hence it coming so late in the day after 2 rejections. He started to panic that his dream contract was disappearing. Pretty sure he met Dalglish in Dubai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This is how it went. MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks. Dekka Yeah, take it Guv MA What about the mongs outside? Carroll I'll put in a request... MA Eh? What? Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss... MA At right. Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye.. MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh).. I reckon Carroll assumed he wouldn't need to put a request in...hence it coming so late in the day after 2 rejections. He started to panic that his dream contract was disappearing. That's what i'm wondering about and if so its very said indeed that he's done that. If he comes out an denies the request and can show the club were lying then fine, otherwise as it stands, they rejected bids to keep him and he fucked us off to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ronaldo - £80m Ibrahimovic - £56.5m Kaka - £56m Torres - £50m (?) Zidane - £45m Figo - £37m Crespo - £35.5m Andy Carroll - £35m (?) Villa - £34m Buffon - £32.6m Robinho - £32.5m Vieri - £32m Shevchenko - £11m Nedved - £30.7m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This is how it went. MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks. Dekka Yeah, take it Guv MA What about the mongs outside? Carroll I'll put in a request... MA Eh? What? Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss... MA At right. Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye.. MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh).. I reckon Carroll assumed he wouldn't need to put a request in...hence it coming so late in the day after 2 rejections. He started to panic that his dream contract was disappearing. Pretty sure he met Dalglish in Dubai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Who'll want to go to the games next year knowing that the best Geordie player in a generation will be lining up elsewhere I hardly know what to say. We need to do something to attract the customers back and sharpish, wouldn't you agree ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This is how it went. MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks. Dekka Yeah, take it Guv MA What about the mongs outside? Carroll I'll put in a request... MA Eh? What? Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss... MA At right. Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye.. MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh).. I reckon Carroll assumed he wouldn't need to put a request in...hence it coming so late in the day after 2 rejections. He started to panic that his dream contract was disappearing. That's what i'm wondering about and if so its very said indeed that he's done that. If he comes out an denies the request and can show the club were lying then fine, otherwise as it stands, they rejected bids to keep him and he fucked us off to go there. No way on earth this would have gone through today if two or more parties hadn't agreed earlier in the window. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Your Name Here Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ronaldo - £80mIbrahimovic - £56.5m Kaka - £56m Torres - £50m (?) Zidane - £45m Figo - £37m Crespo - £35.5m Andy Carroll - £35m (?) Villa - £34m Buffon - £32.6m Robinho - £32.5m Vieri - £32m Shevchenko - £11m Nedved - £30.7m That's inflation for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12461 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Last time I get my hopes up until Ashley is gone tbh. Just hope we don't go down, can't see the Fat cunt spending a wrapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This is how it went. MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks. Dekka Yeah, take it Guv MA What about the mongs outside? Carroll I'll put in a request... MA Eh? What? Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss... MA At right. Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye.. MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh).. I reckon Carroll assumed he wouldn't need to put a request in...hence it coming so late in the day after 2 rejections. He started to panic that his dream contract was disappearing. That's what i'm wondering about and if so its very said indeed that he's done that. If he comes out an denies the request and can show the club were lying then fine, otherwise as it stands, they rejected bids to keep him and he fucked us off to go there. No way on earth this would have gone through today if two or more parties hadn't agreed earlier in the window. IMO. Indeed, you have to think the scousers were pretty confident carroll was coming, and would make sure of it if the club unusually for them held out on a sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Torres gone pending a medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34613 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Carroll's been forced into putting a transfer request. I think that a month ago he wouldn't have dreamt that Liverpool would have tried to sign him. I think once he found out they were interested in him, he found out that he could double his wage, and all the rest of it, he very probably WANTED to go. But I think the club have then said to his agent "He wants to go, we want the money. Just see if you can talk him into handing in a request for damage limitation purposes from our point of view." And honestly it would be a piece of piss to talk him into it, I reckon. You only have to read the order of events being played out in this thread to see that it was choreographed. £35m bid rejected. Transfer bid accepted. £35m bid accepted. In the space of 20 minutes. He wasn't forced into doing anything, but the claim that it was the transfer request that forced the deal through is a a fucking stitch-up man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 They've made enquiries and we've told them no. Im sure we'll do the same again. We'll see. We'd be rejecting offers now anyway, whether we intend on keeping him or not. The time to get smug about rejected offers is 1st Feb, cos then we'll know that we weren't just holding out for a bigger offer on the last day of the window. Is that the same time the humble pie gets eaten......I doubt it. Humble pie about what? Nobody wants him sold, but people are rightly concerned. Why do you have to try and lord it over people and insist they eat humble pie? When I say that the time to be smug is on Feb 1, that's not strictly true. What I should say is that while the rest of us choose to be relieved that we kept our best player, knowing what you're like, you won't be able to stop crowing about how you predicted it all and acting the smug prick. And a better time for THAT would be Feb 1st. Although tbh there's never a good time for that sort of shit. So Im smug for being pleased we've YET AGAIN, turned down an offer, but others in this thread who claim the deals being done all along shouldnt eat humble pie on 1st Feb.. What utter fucking TOSH. ASM is right, come 1st Feb, the usual nay sayers will be spouting about how the clubs just waiting til the summer to get more money.....and so it goes on. TIT CT, you're a fuckin pleb man, not so much as Skidders like, but you are talking about selling Carroll in January/August etc, you are talking about WHEN Carroll will be sold. Mate, nothing is as sure as this club will, eventually, lose Carroll and Enrique to one of the top clubs attempting to win the trophies and play in europe, and they will be happy to leave when the penny drops when they realise they have to make this move for their career ambitions. Do you want to know what will help convince them to stay, and build on this "platform he has started" ? Its quite simple man, all Mike Ashley has to do is buy a couple of quality players like Carroll and Enrique to show them that THIS club is trying to go places, this will also correctly bring about a u-turn in attitudes among supporters of the club towards him and his ambitions for the club. It's THAT simple man. Tiote? Ben Arfa? exactly and not too expensive either. so do you think it is possible to put together a team to consistently play in europe and/or the Champions League rummaging around the basement transfer market ? I wouldnt say Tiote nor Barfa were basement bargains...far from it. Clever business. You can assemble a quality squad without spending alot of money if you have a quality scouting network in place and then know how to manage them. That isn't what I asked. And Tiote and Ben Arfa were relatively cheapish buys in todays market. Exactly. Ben Arfa was nearing the end of his contract [heading into his final 12 months], and his disciplinary issues with OM probably devalued his true market value at the time when he effectively talked himself out other feasible options [permanent transfers] were avilable, when Ashley was lurking in the background with a loan offer [minus a concrete 'to buy' figure set in the loan contract] which amounted to Venus Fly Trap [with all the bargaining power in Ashley's court] in waiting. And Tiote is one of those 'chancer' & inexpensive type of signings, a player in development whose attributes [physical attributes & his reading of the play] have made for an immediate impact in the physical & fast paced nature of the top flight. The most comparible signing in the premiership era would be Viera: a peripheral figure at his former club [Milan], but like Tiote made added steel to Wenger's overall football philosophy re. their outfield play, and hence a pivotal signing. Credit goes to the scouting department in this case, but they don't always come off ie. Guppy & Huckerby under KK. It's still an extremely hit & miss transfer policy, to rely on 'chancer' signings. Tiote & Ben Arfa are gifts. We've been the beneficiaries of a combination of good scouting and a volatile/ugly 'player vs club & manager' situation. Players of this ability don't consistently drop into your lap, for next to peanuts in today's market at a highly consistent rate. Even Arsenal/Wenger hunt down & ultimately are prepared to fork out the going rate for those youngsters deemed to be in the top echelon of the talent pool, this why talk of Ashley trying to emulate 'the Arsenal Model' is offensive. But the sort of signings we should be aiming for, you have be prepared to go that extra yard. Instead trolling around for mid-late 20's players in the lower leagues a kid like Delph [identified by KK], under a lengthy contract at Leeds, was exactly the type of emerging & dominating talent we should be trying to sign from the lower divisions. The prospect of a shaft type of move [where a compensation via tribunal ruling was out of the question] wasn't a feasible option. Instead Ashley/Dekka tabled an offer which brought about a reportedly colorful response from Bates. Under the previous regime such signings [ie Jenas] were completed with the upmost of professionalism............ or in the case of Delph [as KK suggested] did Ashley & Dekka purposely underbid for a player in their attempts to push the manager to the periphery of the squad's building plans. Either way it's embarrasing running of the club. common sense which still escapes some people, it would appear. Todays news is gutting and absolutely no surprise at all, tbh Get fucked you silly old cunt, why only turn up on here after the bids been accepted? You fuckin' love it, get fuckin' wankin. aye of course you stupid little arsehole I've always said how going back to the 70's and 80's would be great. We are a selling club again, get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Carroll's been forced into putting a transfer request. I think that a month ago he wouldn't have dreamt that Liverpool would have tried to sign him. I think once he found out they were interested in him, he found out that he could double his wage, and all the rest of it, he very probably WANTED to go. But I think the club have then said to his agent "He wants to go, we want the money. Just see if you can talk him into handing in a request for damage limitation purposes from our point of view." And honestly it would be a piece of piss to talk him into it, I reckon. You only have to read the order of events being played out in this thread to see that it was choreographed. £35m bid rejected. Transfer bid accepted. £35m bid accepted. In the space of 20 minutes. He wasn't forced into doing anything, but the claim that it was the transfer request that forced the deal through is a a fucking stitch-up man. If not this exactly then deffo a variation of it Gemms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Money ? Loyalty/Everything else Words mean nothing, 2 perfect examples in Bent and Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12461 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Carroll's been forced into putting a transfer request. I think that a month ago he wouldn't have dreamt that Liverpool would have tried to sign him. I think once he found out they were interested in him, he found out that he could double his wage, and all the rest of it, he very probably WANTED to go. But I think the club have then said to his agent "He wants to go, we want the money. Just see if you can talk him into handing in a request for damage limitation purposes from our point of view." And honestly it would be a piece of piss to talk him into it, I reckon. You only have to read the order of events being played out in this thread to see that it was choreographed. £35m bid rejected. Transfer bid accepted. £35m bid accepted. In the space of 20 minutes. He wasn't forced into doing anything, but the claim that it was the transfer request that forced the deal through is a a fucking stitch-up man. Agreed, it's just a big show by Ashley and co. Carroll's had his head turned by more cash and Ashley obviously wanted to sell, it's just like you say they needed a way of damage limitation for the fans so turning Carroll into the bad guy gives them a good out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Carroll's been forced into putting a transfer request. I think that a month ago he wouldn't have dreamt that Liverpool would have tried to sign him. I think once he found out they were interested in him, he found out that he could double his wage, and all the rest of it, he very probably WANTED to go. But I think the club have then said to his agent "He wants to go, we want the money. Just see if you can talk him into handing in a request for damage limitation purposes from our point of view." And honestly it would be a piece of piss to talk him into it, I reckon. You only have to read the order of events being played out in this thread to see that it was choreographed. £35m bid rejected. Transfer bid accepted. £35m bid accepted. In the space of 20 minutes. He wasn't forced into doing anything, but the claim that it was the transfer request that forced the deal through is a a fucking stitch-up man. Knowing the cunts we have in charge i dont doubt for a minute that your scenario could easilly have happened, but at the end of the day, carroll decides to stay or go, nobody else and he made it clear where he stands, after all his shit about staying here to be the next shearer. And to be fair i think he has know for a while now that plenty of clubs would be after him, its been all over the press, on football programmes etc continually about people saying the "big 4" and others should/will sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Anyone else feel Carroll has been a victim of his own hype? He's good, but he's not that good to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Carroll's been forced into putting a transfer request. I think that a month ago he wouldn't have dreamt that Liverpool would have tried to sign him. I think once he found out they were interested in him, he found out that he could double his wage, and all the rest of it, he very probably WANTED to go. But I think the club have then said to his agent "He wants to go, we want the money. Just see if you can talk him into handing in a request for damage limitation purposes from our point of view." And honestly it would be a piece of piss to talk him into it, I reckon. You only have to read the order of events being played out in this thread to see that it was choreographed. £35m bid rejected. Transfer bid accepted. £35m bid accepted. In the space of 20 minutes. He wasn't forced into doing anything, but the claim that it was the transfer request that forced the deal through is a a fucking stitch-up man. Fair post, I don't think "forced into it" was fundamentally what I meant. Influenced by the club? Yes, I could see that. Not for a minute do I honestly think he desperately wants to stay and is only going because he was somehow made to hand in a request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Money ? Loyalty/Everything else Words mean nothing, 2 perfect examples in Bent and Carroll. Indeed, very few players left now who aren't arseholes. Only differences here sadly is that whilst we got a alot more money than you did for Bent, you'll end up spending more and better than us most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Anyone else feel Carroll has been a victim of his own hype? He's good, but he's not that good to be fair. I'd love that to be true, but sadly i've rated him for a long time, though didn't see this meteoric a rise, and i think he will go on to do the business for years to come, hope not though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Let's hope his thigh injury gives him as much grief as Woodgate's did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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