Happy Face 29 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Good Ben Arfa Tiote Cabaye Ba Cisse Santon Bad Obertan Kuqi Ugly Ireland Marveaux Abeid Perch Gosling Sol Campbell TBD Bigirimana Good Anita Amilfitano Unfair on Perch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Yes. Very unfair on Perch. I also think it's too early to make a call on Abeid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4296 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 unfair on perch, we didnt pay anything for ireland it was only a loan, abeids a kid still only 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Perch is definitely not in the good group, though. He is an extremely limited player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 It's not about whether he's a brilliant player, it's about whether he's a successful signing. He has been flawless the last 10 ish times I've seen him play. He cost relatively little and he's earning a relatively low wage. He can play right across the back four and also cover central midfield. I'd say he's a successful signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 How are you defining ugly? We never really saw enough of Kuqi to work out if he was bad or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Can Santon, hand on heart, truly be called a good signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 The fact that we never saw enough of him would suggest he was a failure as a signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 How are you defining ugly? We never really saw enough of Kuqi to work out if he was bad or not. Bad and ugly are much of a muchness really, never put much thought into it. Could formalize it as ugly means they've had too many injuries to be blamed for being a bad signing. The bad outweigh the good, but its impressive how well we do when we spend....and interesting how bad when we go very cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 39248 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Cabaye has to be bad. look in these eyes .... and tell me they're not the dead eyes of a cold assassin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Can Santon, hand on heart, truly be called a good signing? No he can be called a superb signing, we signed him for £5m and there have already been enquiries about him with far greater figures quoted than that. He was very good towards the back of the season, you can't expect a 20 year old kid to be up to the pace of the Premiership 5 games in, he got better and better, he'll play for games for Italy and his next club will be Juve, Inter or Milan. People who attend games will have been able to see his progress better than people who don't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20232 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 i'd probably put kuqi under ugly. perch has been a good signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I think a few of the "ugly" ones are strange. Marveaux - Looks good what we've seen though dont think he's been seen for a few days! Abeid - Looks a good player but one of the bairns, should see more this season Perch - I hated him when he joined and for a while after. Proved me wrong last season. Our new Aaron hughes. Gosling - See Abeid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9313 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Bad and ugly are much of a muchness really, never put much thought into it. Could formalize it as ugly means they've had too many injuries to be blamed for being a bad signing. The bad outweigh the good, but its impressive how well we do when we spend....and interesting how bad when we go very cheap. I think you've been harsh on Abeid and Marveaux and perhaps even Gosling. Also, there hasn't been a signing that is as bad as Cabayer (say) is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3658 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Aye cant put Marveaux in that category because on that basis then at this time last year HBA would have been an ugly signing! Dont agree on Gosling or Abeid either, too early to judge! And yes, harsh on Perch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Cabaye has to be bad. look in these eyes .... and tell me they're not the dead eyes of a cold assassin Mortimer is my all time favorite villain. Imagine being in the bar pulling with that stare. Men wet themselves. Women too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 Aye cant put Marveaux in that category because on that basis then at this time last year HBA would have been an ugly signing! Dont agree on Gosling or Abeid either, too early to judge! And yes, harsh on Perch. This time last year HBA was an ugly signing, he'd hardly played any games. Even now, he's still only managed 24 starts in 2 years, which despite his moments of genius hasn't justified his fee....though you can see he clearly will, if he can keep starting games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYD 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Good Ben Arfa Tiote Cabaye Ba Cisse Santon I think we should invest in more gay comedian's dads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWalrus 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 This time last year HBA was an ugly signing, he'd hardly played any games. Even now, he's still only managed 24 starts in 2 years, which despite his moments of genius hasn't justified his fee....though you can see he clearly will, if he can keep starting games. His fee was £2.5m. We've done worse - we had Joey Barton in his position a few years back, who managed about 24 games in 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 His fee was £2.5m. Where you got that from? £5.75m £5.75m £5.3m £5.1m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) The points he's won us, the shirts he's probably sold, the extra incentive for fans to buy tickets knowing they'll see an exciting player and most importantly the boost he gave to our French/Europenan profile have justified the fee already imo Might not have got Cabaye that summer if it wasn't for our treatment of Ben Arfa. edit: even if he never played for us again for some bizarre reason Edited August 22, 2012 by jonasjuice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6450 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Perch would be hovering somewhere in between. Was certainly bad/ugly initially but since his second coming he's been in the good side. Limited yes, but for the price has done very well especially when you consider how horribly poor he looked. To this day I am still astounded with how far along he has come - but still not totally convinced that we'll see old Perch come out again on occassion. Given Santon's age and coming from a different league I don't thin you could say that his signing has been anything but good. The best part about it as far as I'm concerned is that he's continually getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Interesting about Santon. Definitely like the look of him going forward but cant say I've noticed greatness from him with regard to defending. Was watching a few clips of the Spurs game in the pub last night and he looked a bit all at sea to me when challenging Defoe for their goal and earlier when the cross came in and Bale headed off the bar. Really struggling to recall any great defending prowess. (I have the memory span of a Goldfish however). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 The points he's won us, the shirts he's probably sold, the extra incentive for fans to buy tickets knowing they'll see an exciting player and most importantly the boost he gave to our French/Europenan profile have justified the fee already imo I think that's optimistic tbh. Ben Arfa has sold plenty of shirts and he's my nephews favourite player (cos i told him he is), but our entire merchandising and other commercial income is £15m. If every fan in the stadium had Ben Arfa on their back the income off it would only be £2m gross....then you'd have to deduct the other costs like material, staff, JJBs cut etc. No chance Ben Arfa is single handedly responsible for over a third of our commercial income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Interesting about Santon. Definitely like the look of him going forward but cant say I've noticed greatness from him with regard to defending. Was watching a few clips of the Spurs game in the pub last night and he looked a bit all at sea to me when challenging Defoe for their goal and earlier when the cross came in and Bale headed off the bar. Really struggling to recall any great defending prowess. (I have the memory span of a Goldfish however). Thank you; that's rather similar to my own take on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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