Tom 13861 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 and what about The Turner Prize? as you're no doubt a bit of a Grayson Perry aficionado / lookalike, how do you feel about Elizabeth Price winning it? Not asked of me but... I seen Elizabeth Price's entry & a couple of her other videos at the Baltic in March & i think she thoroughly deserves it. " The choir" was pretty terrifying at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 So, this "Wind Up Merchant" stuff. How's it working out for you? About as well as his team's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14602 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 and what about The Turner Prize? as you're no doubt a bit of a Grayson Perry aficionado / lookalike, how do you feel about Elizabeth Price winning it? Not asked of me but... I seen Elizabeth Price's entry & a couple of her other videos at the Baltic in March & i think she thoroughly deserves it. " The choir" was pretty terrifying at times. Grayson Perry I expect Gene had these on his bedroom wall, Tom probably wasn't born in 86...still, Liz has come a long way... http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/shortcuts/2012/dec/04/elizabeth-price-talulah-gosh-turner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Is Grayson Perry the tranny? The Turner Prize seems like a massive piss-take to me like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14602 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yeah he was on something on BBC2 I watched a while ago.....seems to be a bit Eddie Izzard ish....a mainly straight forward arty type who's just compelled to dress up as a woman... Turner prize is taken seriously by those who win it by the looks of it. To everyone else its a joke. No one normal can understand how Tracy Emins manky bed can win a prize. As long as these arty types take it seriously and have lackies in the media to give it coverage then it'll remain a piss take too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I remember that Grayson Perry from an article in the Sunday Times. He looks like a rugby player on one of their hilarious nights out rather than a proper drag queen. Not sure which looks worse like. I can't get me head round most contemporary art like (as opposed to modern art). I've been to the Baltic a few times and seen the odd thing I thought was canny but on the whole I've felt like I'm missing out on a joke. I'm more into photography like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26394 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Turner prize is taken seriously by those who win it by the looks of it. To everyone else its a joke. No one normal can understand how Tracy Emins manky bed can win a prize. As long as these arty types take it seriously and have lackies in the media to give it coverage then it'll remain a piss take too. Hosted by Lauren Laverne. Clearly someone on the inside is in on the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14602 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Tbf, Lauren Laverne is indisputably the best thing to come out of Wearside...pretty much ever. Kenickie were fab too. But she's got gigs that are far in advance of her abilities. Don't care. I don't think about her with my brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Lo-fi art is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Grayson Perry I expect Gene had these on his bedroom wall, Tom probably wasn't born in 86...still, Liz has come a long way... http://www.guardian....lah-gosh-turner Well i never..... i was very much in to C86 music, as you'd imagine; it was the sound of my final year at University to be honest..... i didn't actually own anything by Talullah Gosh, preferring The Shop Assistants for my girly indie group & i still think this sounds tremendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14602 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) Well i never..... i was very much in to C86 music, as you'd imagine; it was the sound of my final year at University to be honest..... i didn't actually own anything by Talullah Gosh, preferring The Shop Assistants for my girly indie group & i still think this sounds tremendous Thats classic jingly jangly indie...quite good too..heard of them but not any of their stuff Marychain,Cult,Bunnymen...think 86 was my goth phase I was a cool as you fuckin like tragic second year apprentice....I think it was hip-hop the following year..... Edited December 5, 2012 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I moved to London when I finished Uni in July 86 from County Derry, via about 3 days back home in Felling, which was a bit of a culture shock. I arrived with the idea of making it big as a music journo who also played in a band, but ended up working in a second hand record shop in Notting Hill (Record & Tape Exchange). Meant I was exposed to a zillion types of music; gigs I went to were uniformly indie / twee stuff, but bought lots of early hip hop then; still got the 12" singles. Moved to Leeds in 87 to go back to university; Goth Central, but I loved Age of Chance & The Mekons from that area rather that Sisters of Mercy shite. Still love the melodic indie stuff now; Teenage Fanclub my favourite band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13861 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Grayson Perry I expect Gene had these on his bedroom wall, Tom probably wasn't born in 86...still, Liz has come a long way... http://www.guardian....lah-gosh-turner I was born is 1986. In December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13861 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I remember that Grayson Perry from an article in the Sunday Times. He looks like a rugby player on one of their hilarious nights out rather than a proper drag queen. Not sure which looks worse like. I can't get me head round most contemporary art like (as opposed to modern art). I've been to the Baltic a few times and seen the odd thing I thought was canny but on the whole I've felt like I'm missing out on a joke. I'm more into photography like. There's a lot of shite but from what I gather Art circles are quite tightly knit i.e the same person lecturing at the University will have an installment somewhere local, friends will recommend the work of friends & there's a lot of money kicking about. In any art gallery I've been in the bad out weighs the good & a lot of the time - though the theory & hyperbole would suggest otherwise - it's simply a piss take & there's nothing to get. Otherwise you get some great stuff which isn't trying to be clever but just looks nice. Like the work of a Sculptor in the Hamburger Baunhaf (sp?) His work was class but there was little meaning behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The Laing's normally decent tbf. The Baltic was a wasted opportunity imo. It wanted to be anti-popularist, eschewing mainstream modern art and the sort of exhibitions you get at the Tate Modern to be purely 'contemporary'. It's public money, you cheeky fucking cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13861 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 My favourite work in the Laing - not sure if it's still there - was commissioned by Sting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I always like to see the John Martin painting (of Lot's wife getting turned into a pillar of salt). Isn't the Bible lovely btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5925 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Fuck me, you're pretentious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30433 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Pretentious, moi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The Baltic is unfortunately doing exactly what the critics up here said it would do; being pretentious, elitist, and insular. Wasted opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The Laing's normally decent tbf. The Baltic was a wasted opportunity imo. It wanted to be anti-popularist, eschewing mainstream modern art and the sort of exhibitions you get at the Tate Modern to be purely 'contemporary'. It's public money, you cheeky fucking cunts. Just like hanging around the Tate Modern. The place has a wierd otherworldy vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I moved to London when I finished Uni in July 86 from County Derry, via about 3 days back home in Felling, which was a bit of a culture shock. I arrived with the idea of making it big as a music journo who also played in a band, but ended up working in a second hand record shop in Notting Hill (Record & Tape Exchange). Meant I was exposed to a zillion types of music; gigs I went to were uniformly indie / twee stuff, but bought lots of early hip hop then; still got the 12" singles. Moved to Leeds in 87 to go back to university; Goth Central, but I loved Age of Chance & The Mekons from that area rather that Sisters of Mercy shite. Still love the melodic indie stuff now; Teenage Fanclub my favourite band Think you would have made a good music journalist if your idea of your own self importance is anything to go by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3205 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Tbf, Lauren Laverne is indisputably the best thing to come out of Wearside...pretty much ever. Kenickie were fab too. But she's got gigs that are far in advance of her abilities. Don't care. I don't think about her with my brain Bobby Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene_Clark 12 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Think you would have made a good music journalist if your idea of your own self importance is anything to go by. Alan Measles red & white army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Bobby Thompson Lived just round the corner from us in Monkseaton, was a customer in my dad's shop for years. Always thought he was from Durham for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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