Christmas Tree 5383 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 07/12/2017 at 14:00, Meenzer said: I look forward to him making that a condition of their coalition agreement. Expand I’m sure she’s already got one eye on the Presidency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16831 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 07/12/2017 at 14:02, Christmas Tree said: I’m sure she’s already got one eye on the Presidency Expand Mind, Blair must be gutted we're leaving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Looks like there is currently a deal that has been agreed by everyone bar the DUP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5383 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 07/12/2017 at 21:11, ewerk said: Looks like there is currently a deal that has been agreed by everyone. Expand Fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5383 Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Interesting to note as well how much Junker / Tusk etc have bent over backwards to try and get this deal done this week. I think this shows how keen they are to get onto Phase 2 and get a deal done. All bodes well for a cracking deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Bent over backwards and gotten everything demanded. It’s an amazing victory for Theresa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10761 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 06:18, Christmas Tree said: Interesting to note as well how much Junker / Tusk etc have bent over backwards to try and get this deal done this week. I think this shows how keen they are to get onto Phase 2 and get a deal done. All bodes well for a cracking deal. Expand How did they bend over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 A quick look at the text on NI suggests that Dublin got exactly what they were asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 ECJ jurisdiction for eight years on citizens rights. Full alignment on EU regulations. I’m not sure the UK got a single thing their own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19733 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 07:31, ewerk said: A quick look at the text on NI suggests that Dublin got exactly what they were asking for. Expand Is there anything to stop the EU setting up customs checks at the road north out of somewhere like Dundalk?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16831 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 07:34, ewerk said: ECJ jurisdiction for eight years on citizens rights. Full alignment on EU regulations. I’m not sure the UK got a single thing their own way. Expand Lucky it only took us 18 months to get this far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 07:34, PaddockLad said: Is there anything to stop the EU setting up customs checks at the road north out of somewhere like Dundalk?... Expand The idea is to have no customs checks at all. No matter where they’re at they’re not acceptable. Plus at least 90% of North/South trade runs along the N1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) On 08/12/2017 at 08:15, Meenzer said: Lucky it only took us 18 months to get this far. Expand Cracking deal though*. *For the EU. Edited December 8, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 06:18, Christmas Tree said: Interesting to note as well how much Junker / Tusk etc have bent over backwards to try and get this deal done this week. I think this shows how keen they are to get onto Phase 2 and get a deal done. All bodes well for a cracking deal. Expand Phase 2 is transition talks. Trade isn’t til Phase 3. Shows just how desperate the EU are to give us a cracking deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19733 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 08:18, ewerk said: The idea is to have no customs checks at all. No matter where they’re at they’re not acceptable. Plus at least 90% of North/South trade runs along the N1. Expand There's a two year transitional period, and I've just listened to the PM and the dup wife list the bullet points. Campbell on 5live has just read out the massively ambiguous paragraph 49 of the agreement being trumpeted this morning. This isn't the end, this isn't the beginning of the end and it's definitely not the end of the beginning on the border issue for you folks. I think you'll end up with EU checks for lorries going South out of NI, but not till after the two year transitional period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24526 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 “In the absence of agreed solutions, the United Kingdom will maintain full alignment with those rules of the internal market and the customs union which, now or in the future, support north-south cooperation, the all-island economy and the protection of the 1998 agreement... “The United Kingdom will ensure that no new regulatory barriers develop between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom, unless, consistent with the 1998 agreement, the Northern Ireland executive and assembly agree that distinct arrangements are appropriate for Northern Ireland. “In all circumstances, the United Kingdom will continue to ensure the same unfettered access for Northern Ireland’s businesses to the whole of the United Kingdom internal market.” Don't know about anyone else, but given the DUP has insisted there is no divergence of NI from Britain, this sounds like we are paying a fortune to effectively stay in the SM and CU, whilst losing any input into changing it. Obviously begs the question what's the fucking point? I think the Brexiteers'heads are going to explode today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 We are going to have full alignment unless otherwise agreed so I think that pretty much means SM/CU in all but name. But Michael Gove still reckons we’re going to be negotiating our own free trade deals around the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6482 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) Aye, SM in all but name, basically as we were saying a few days ago. Pointless fucking exercise were my words the other day, fitting now too Still, technically it's a win for May since she can push the talks forward, again as predicted. Onwards we go to the next catastrophe. Edited December 8, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 They say the transition period is two years...What's the betting it ends up being 3 or 5? My mate at the investment bank now says that they have shelved their plans for Frankfurt till 2022 even though they did the feasibility and regulatory study last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52696 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Everyone born in NI will retain EU citizenship according to Varadkar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6482 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 FFS. They may as well fucking roll that out to everyone then, given that the Tories said it will be 'exactly the same, everywhere'. What is the actual fucking point of any of this now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 09:21, Gemmill said: Everyone born in NI will retain EU citizenship according to Varadkar. Expand I’ve got my Irish passport anyway so was always going to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 52696 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 People will be getting the Seacat over to give birth. Running a serious risk of giving birth to a retahhhhhded little Paddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34282 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 SeaCat? Why don’t they get the old steamer over granddad? Fucking SeaCat has been used in about twenty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24526 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 08/12/2017 at 09:23, Rayvin said: FFS. They may as well fucking roll that out to everyone then, given that the Tories said it will be 'exactly the same, everywhere'. What is the actual fucking point of any of this now? Expand This was always going to happen because of the GFA. Its possible British citizens will be able buy EU citizenship going forward, which I will certainly do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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