Renton 17784 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: But he would deliver a hard Brexit. You honestly think he could supersede May without a GE!? Edited December 7, 2017 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, Renton said: You honestly think he calm supersede May without a GE!? It's the Tories man. Yes. Yes I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17784 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: It's the Tories man. Yes. Yes I do. No chance he could form a stable government, literally none at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34473 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 There'd be a general election and he would be sunk by the fact that he thinks rape victims should have to raise their rapist's child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 We have been talking about this government collapsing for fucking months, and it just won't die. We thought their coalition with the LDs would collapse, and again, it didn't. They do whatever it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34473 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I reckon Thornberry would batter this lot into submission. I like Corbyn but he's not doing nearly enough to highlight the outrageous incompetence of this government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19826 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 this government is hanging around like a stubborn winnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30414 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I reckon Thornberry would batter this lot into submission. I like Corbyn but he's not doing nearly enough to highlight the outrageous incompetence of this government. Good shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17784 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, Alex said: Good shout With Starmer as chancellor/Brexit negotiator. I'd buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Would also be happy with Thornberry on the evidence so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34473 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Corbyn seems to have just settled into his people's champion role, but has no ambition to lead. Thornberry seems fucking radge. That business last week where she had Green thinking she was about to ask him about his porn collection was mint. He never recovered his composure. Corbyn v May is like watching two retards play swing ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Literally none of that post is true. You said that everyone is now happy that sufficient progress has been made, not that they'll be happy in a few days. And what is agreed now on Ireland can in no way be rolled back in Phase 2. Everything agreed in Phase 1 underpins what will happen in Phase 2. It's not dependent on a trade deal. You have a very loose relationship with the truth. Jesus wept Its all in black & white if you scroll upwards I said everyone involved in the negotiations was happy to move onto Phase 2 on Monday. The spoiler was the DUP not liking the wording which will be resolved in a few days. EVERYBODY (but you), understands that phase 1 is about making “SUFFICIENT PROGRESS”. Nothing has been agreed on Ireland or will in phase 1 other than flowery words as what happens will depend on the deal agreed in Phase 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Britain has failed in its attempt to continue having senior representation in the ECJ. Quite why we thought we wouldn't get laughed out of the room on this one is beyond me, but the fact that we tried suggests that we are going for the route of Brexit just being a 'for show' political manoeuvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Getting out just in time..... In his speech to SPD conference, Schulz calls for a federal constitution for a United States of Europe by 2025. Martin Schulz has told the SDP party conference today that a new treaty should be presented to member states creating a United States of Europe and countries who oppose it must leave the EU. He demanded “there to be a constitutional treaty to create a federal Europe… the treaty will be presented to the member states and those who are against should just leave the European Union… We want the United States of Europe”. His plan is for this to come into existence by 2025. Edited December 7, 2017 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26844 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Unbelievably thick. Cuntface. Because your smelly breathed arsehole of a prime minister can't get Mrs Brown and her boys to agree to the wordy words on her piece of paper, there has been NO progress made as yet. Do you understand now? 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Think of it as a Facebook post that the DUP needs to click "Like" on if that's easier. Until that happens, we can't superpoke the EU. (Would've got an extra but I don't know what a superpoke is.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Getting out just in time..... In his speech to SPD conference, Schulz calls for a federal constitution for a United States of Europe by 2025. That the fella who comfortably lost the recent election to a fourth-term chancellor at an all-time popularity low? Sounds good though. Should be a nice strong EU when we rejoin it in 2040 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17784 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) This interesting. Guess who said the following? Quote There is a proper role for referendums in constitutional change, but only if done properly. If it is not done properly, it can be a dangerous tool. Referendums should be held when the electorate are in the best possible position to make a judgment. They should be held when people can view all the arguments for and against and when those arguments have been rigorously tested. In short, referendums should be held when people know exactly what they are getting. So legislation should be debated by Members of Parliament on the Floor of the House, and then put to the electorate for the voters to judge. We should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards. For referendums to be fair and compatible with our parliamentary process, we need the electors to be as well informed as possible and to know exactly what they are voting for. Referendums need to be treated as an addition to the parliamentary process, not as a substitute for it. Edited December 7, 2017 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26844 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Howmanheyman said: (Would've got an extra but I don't know what a superpoke is.) I'm guessing a superpoke isn't a large ice cream cone in Northern Ireland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14585 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Jesus wept Its all in black & white if you scroll upwards I said everyone involved in the negotiations was happy to move onto Phase 2 on Monday. The spoiler was the DUP not liking the wording which will be resolved in a few days. EVERYBODY (but you), understands that phase 1 is about making “SUFFICIENT PROGRESS”. Nothing has been agreed on Ireland or will in phase 1 other than flowery words as what happens will depend on the deal agreed in Phase 2. It's just the wording the DUP object to? Not Dublin and the EU getting their own way in the border issue then? Just "words"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30414 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, Meenzer said: That the fella who comfortably lost the recent election to a fourth-term chancellor at an all-time popularity low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, Meenzer said: That the fella who comfortably lost the recent election to a fourth-term chancellor at an all-time popularity low? Yes, the one who could be in coalition with her very shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17784 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Some politicians in Europe are federalists? Fuck me. Someone help me process this terrible news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 56 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Getting out just in time..... In his speech to SPD conference, Schulz calls for a federal constitution for a United States of Europe by 2025. Martin Schulz has told the SDP party conference today that a new treaty should be presented to member states creating a United States of Europe and countries who oppose it must leave the EU. He demanded “there to be a constitutional treaty to create a federal Europe… the treaty will be presented to the member states and those who are against should just leave the European Union… We want the United States of Europe”. His plan is for this to come into existence by 2025. Makes sense, practical in the world we're heading into, and ultimately will end up with us as part of it anyway - just with no say in determining how to develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26352 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said: Jesus wept Its all in black & white if you scroll upwards I said everyone involved in the negotiations was happy to move onto Phase 2 on Monday. The spoiler was the DUP not liking the wording which will be resolved in a few days. EVERYBODY (but you), understands that phase 1 is about making “SUFFICIENT PROGRESS”. Nothing has been agreed on Ireland or will in phase 1 other than flowery words as what happens will depend on the deal agreed in Phase 2. Sweet fucking Jesus, I guess I'm the muppet you've dragged into the mud this time. You are now saying that everyone was happy on Monday, your initial post on the matter said that everyone was currently happy that sufficient progress had been made. And what is an agreement but a collection of words laying out future plans? You colossal fuckwit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14055 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Yes, the one who could be in coalition with her very shortly I look forward to him making that a condition of their coalition agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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