Mike Ashley -- Football Cunt

[The Fish 781]

Journalists are certainly using more definite language with this rumour than they were with ours.

Edited October 8, 2017 by The Fish

[TheGingerQuiff 1,636]

So she's gone to an away game as a guest of NUFC related folk and sat with them, then disappeared down the tunnel with a Benitez associate because she wants to buy LFC? Unlikely. It was reported that she was looking at more than one club though so perhaps she's having a last throw of the dice with them before moving on. A billion quid valuation will kill off that anyway though.

 

Likely just the mirror stirring the pot.

Edited October 8, 2017 by TheGingerQuiff

[The Fish 781]

10 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said:

So she's gone to an away game as a guest of NUFC related folk and sat with them, then disappeared down the tunnel with a Benitez associate because she wants to buy LFC? Unlikely. It was reported that she was looking at more than one club though so perhaps she's having a last throw of the dice with them before moving on. A billion quid valuation will kill off that anyway though.

 

Likely just the mirror stirring the pot.

 

Aye, it could be. Similarly, she may have met with the top brass at St James' and been put off by their incompetence/abrasiveness? Is it better to work with competent people and spend a bit more, or try to make a cheaper deal with famously dickish businessmen?

[TheGingerQuiff 1,636]

Aye she wants to part with £600m extra because Charnley, who'll leave after a sale anyway, is a tit. Bingo.

[The Fish 781]

1 minute ago, TheGingerQuiff said:

Aye she wants to part with £600m extra because Charnley, who'll leave after a sale anyway, is a tit. Bingo.

£600m for a bigger club, closer to the promised land, with an excellent playing squad, a good manager, and so on.

 

Or trying to strike a deal with Mike Ashley, Justin Barnes and Luke Charnley. The A, B, & C of corporate cunts. Where the goal posts will move during the negotiations, the valuation is already inflated, the club need more investment on the squad, on the facilities etc.

 

fwiw I think Newcastle United are a better proposition for investors than most club in the country, but Liverpool are one of the most famous clubs on the planet and wouldn't need a sizeable investment to actually compete with Man City et al.

[PaddockLad 2,670]

31 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Journalists are certainly using more definite language with this rumour than they were with ours.

 

The likes of Caulkin and Douglas should be shot with shit for their dog whistling crap on this like. 

[TheGingerQuiff 1,636]

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

£600m for a bigger club, closer to the promised land, with an excellent playing squad, a good manager, and so on.

 

Or trying to strike a deal with Mike Ashley, Justin Barnes and Luke Charnley. The A, B, & C of corporate cunts. Where the goal posts will move during the negotiations, the valuation is already inflated, the club need more investment on the squad, on the facilities etc.

 

fwiw I think Newcastle United are a better proposition for investors than most club in the country, but Liverpool are one of the most famous clubs on the planet and wouldn't need a sizeable investment to actually compete with Man City et al.

 

I don't know where the promised land is or who Luke Charnley is.

[The Fish 781]

Just now, TheGingerQuiff said:

 

I don't know where the promised land is or who Luke Charnley is.

 

Title challenging, and Lee Charnley. Pretty hungover tbf.

[TheGingerQuiff 1,636]

Klopp isn't a good enough manager to challenge for the title imo.

[Ayatollah Hermione 3,740]

Seems like his Liverpool side haven't been able to defend since he arrived. No idea about his Dortmund team but they did have Hummels at centre half so that probably covers a multitude of sins.

[The Fish 781]

1 minute ago, TheGingerQuiff said:

Klopp isn't a good enough manager to challenge for the title imo.

 

It's interesting, when the parts click, they're excellent. But there must be something to explain why, when they stop clicking, they struggle so much to win games. They have the talent, the workrate, the invention and "game management". 

 

He doesn't seem able to get them to grind out a win. That might be a lack of a goal scorer who can have a pretty quiet game, but still be relied upon to put the ball in the back of the net like Kane, Lukaku, Joselu. Or it might be that Klopp's coaching is lacking that department.

[ewerk 6,290]

1 hour ago, TheGingerQuiff said:

So she's gone to an away game as a guest of NUFC related folk and sat with them, then disappeared down the tunnel with a Benitez associate because she wants to buy LFC? Unlikely. It was reported that she was looking at more than one club though so perhaps she's having a last throw of the dice with them before moving on. A billion quid valuation will kill off that anyway though.

 

Likely just the mirror stirring the pot.

 

 

This. You don’t go to an away game to make enquiries. You also don’t go to NUFC v Stoke unless you’re interested. It could be that she’s made enquiries about both clubs about a possible purchase as she did with both us and City when they got bought over.

[ewerk 6,290]

Oh, I nearly forgot, shut up Fish.

[The Fish 781]

15 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

 

This. You don’t go to an away game to make enquiries. You also don’t go to NUFC v Stoke unless you’re interested. It could be that she’s made enquiries about both clubs about a possible purchase as she did with both us and City when they got bought over.

 

Aye maybe so, and if the choice was between us and West Ham, or Everton I'd fancy us to win out. But Liverpool are a different beast entirely.

 

[The Fish 781]

Oh and fuck all y'all.

[Tom 3,027]

30 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Oh, I nearly forgot, shut up Fish.

 

 

[ewerk 6,290]

21 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Aye maybe so, and if the choice was between us and West Ham, or Everton I'd fancy us to win out. But Liverpool are a different beast entirely.

 

 

Yes but if they’re playing hardball with pie in the sky figures she has shown that she’ll walk away and go to a more reasonable vendor. Hopefully Justin Barnes is easier to work with than Ashley and Llambias were.

[Dr Gloom 2,966]

She has been rumoured to have been interested in Liverpool for ages. The link to Newcastle is more recent. 

[RobinRobin 433]

On 10/7/2017 at 0:13 AM, Howay said:

Charnley can’t even handle sacking Steve McClaren during a disasterous run that made it easy as fuck to sack him. I’ve no doubt Ashley will have him heading up the negotiation team for this possible £400m transaction. 

 

It would be better if they had Joe Kinnear involved.  The price would end up being $400.

[The Fish 781]

20 hours ago, ewerk said:

 

Yes but if they’re playing hardball with pie in the sky figures she has shown that she’ll walk away and go to a more reasonable vendor. Hopefully Justin Barnes is easier to work with than Ashley and Llambias were.

 

That's the kernel of my concerns. Ashley is a notoriously difficult negotiator, and Barnes apparently has a reputation for being a pain the arse.

[ewerk 6,290]

But he's willing to sell now, which is the key difference to last time. Of course they'll want the best deal they can get but the club has effectively been up for sale for years and we don't appear to have seen any serious interest so he knows what an opportunity this could be. On the other hand I don't think that FSG have any interest in selling Liverpool barring an offer too good to turn down.

[The Fish 781]

13 minutes ago, ewerk said:

But he's willing to sell now, which is the key difference to last time. Of course they'll want the best deal they can get but the club has effectively been up for sale for years and we don't appear to have seen any serious interest so he knows what an opportunity this could be. On the other hand I don't think that FSG have any interest in selling Liverpool barring an offer too good to turn down.

 

No, I get all that, but I'm tempering any excitement at the prospect of any possible new owner because of Ashley's intractable nature. He says he's happy to sell, but the price tag seems high and he's known for shifting the goalposts (apparently), on top of that the only thing he's ever cared about is the promotion of Sports Direct so I wouldn'tbe surprised if he insists on some kind of SD deal for merchandise or whatever.

 

I dunno, perhaps I am being too cynical, but if Staveley wants to buy a Premier League club I'm convinced Ashley and his cronies would prove too much of a pain in the arse to deal with?

[ewerk 6,290]

I think you're better just sitting back and waiting to see if anything develops like the rest of us.

[The Fish 781]

19 minutes ago, ewerk said:

I think you're better just sitting back and waiting to see if anything develops like the rest of us.

 

I'm just thinking ahead mate, like the rest of us.

[ToonMarshy 2]

Chronicle reporting that ashley has reduced his asking price for the club from more than £450million to around £380m in an attempt to attract interest.
Could he really actually be trying to shift it now?

I mean its from chronicle like so he's probably actually renamed the tea lady sports direct, but..