adios 717 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: OK look, I just went and researched it myself - they're not specific individuals, and the artist claims to have depicted white and Jewish bankers as a criticism of the class system etc etc, but that it wasn't intended to be antisemitic. I rather suspect that it was intended to be antisemitic based on that comment, as I don't see the need to have 'white and jewish'. Why not just 'bankers'. If there was a single Star of David on there, I would probably concede this point. But to me, they just looked like rich white men running the world and crushing the rest of us. Does it make me anti-semitic that I haven't assumed these men were Jewish? I wasn't genuinely saying they were specific individuals btw. It's not an assumption that they're Jewish, several of them are Jewish caricatures. A rather disproportionate number of the general population, though maybe a fair proportion of the banking community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 How is Boris Johnson still Foreign Secretary? Classic case of jobs for the boys surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26334 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Rayvin said: Ok i had no idea what was wrong with that at first. Wealthy white guys playing monopoly on the backs of the poor and minorities. Sounds about right and is totally standard fare for the current art scene. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34449 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The Jews need to chill out a bit. The holocaust got them all paranoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26334 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Never happened [/Rayvin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 For the many, not the Jew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26334 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 You definitely stole that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Never happened [/Rayvin] Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19824 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 On 24/03/2018 at 07:18, ewerk said: Corbyn covering himself with glory again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26334 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/some-tory-mps-want-theresa-may-to-sack-an-aide-who-outed-a?utm_term=.jdbW1PbW0&bftwuk#.vdemb59mP What an unbelievably callous move from No.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30396 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 All part of the move back to the pre-EU golden age of Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14051 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Not a scrap of basic decency in the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30396 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-mp-bob-blackman-islamophobia-facebook-conservative-harrow-east-racism-muslims-a8276101.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26334 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) I imagine the tabloids will be covering this story and tales of Islamophobia in the Tory party for the next week. Edited March 28, 2018 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30396 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Obvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26334 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Not a word from Corbyn at PMQs about collusion between the leave campaigns or the fact that No.10 outed the whistleblower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30396 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, ewerk said: Not a word from Corbyn at PMQs about collusion between the leave campaigns or the fact that No.10 outed the whistleblower. Jesus, it's an open goal ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26334 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Kinda fucked up to have a leaver leading Labour and a remainer as head of the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Straight outta Mannion's office http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/now-we-can-tell-poor-people-to-collect-bottles-says-gove-20180328146528 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just gonna leave this in here as it at least sums up my thinking on that mural: http://guerillawire.org/politics/oh-all-right-lets-talk-about-that-mural-then/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3203 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Definitely no anti semitism in labour https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-ally-christine-shawcroft-labour-disciplinary-panel-councillor-holocaust-hoax-a8278766.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30396 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 14 hours ago, Rayvin said: Just gonna leave this in here as it at least sums up my thinking on that mural: http://guerillawire.org/politics/oh-all-right-lets-talk-about-that-mural-then/ Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30396 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Definitely no anti semitism in labour https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-ally-christine-shawcroft-labour-disciplinary-panel-councillor-holocaust-hoax-a8278766.html It's massively blown out of proportion though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I think this section from the article I linked sums it up for me: Now as I say, this whole business has been a nonsense. Even if there were genuine anti-Semitic content in the mural, so what? It was years ago, and it was very clear that Corbyn’s comment was not meant as a defence of anti-Semitism. Now, how is a passing comment that Corbyn made six years ago on a bit of bizarre artwork suddenly so important that it takes priority over the Local Elections, over Conservative laundering of Russian finance, over Tory and pro-Brexitgroups getting potentially-illegal help from Cambridge Analytica, the fantastic fraudulence of Jeremy Hunt’s untrue ‘pay-rise’ for NHS workers, the suspicious-looking miracle of only three people getting exposed to a lethal nerve agent in Salisbury and all of them so slightly that somehow none of them are dead almost a month later, the never-ending Brexit chaos, rampant child poverty… ? Good grief, I reckon even the ball-tampering scandal by the Australian Test Cricket team should rate as more of a priority than this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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