Gemmill 34698 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Got one of those plates of glass that people use in films to scribble equations on.You calculating Perez's off screen runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12462 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I agree with that, he's not doing loads wrong but he isn't doing much right in that position so it's not really hampering the team overly. As you've alluded to it's a minor complaint in an excellent season which I'm fairly sure will be remedied in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12462 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You calculating Perez's off screen runs. :lol: He closes his eyes as soon as Perez goes out of shot, "I can see it all... clearly... he's pulling the centre back off Gayle... ohh... haha ohh... wow... now he's.... he's going the other way and pulling the other centre back away... he's unbalancing them leaving the space clear for Gayle" he then slowly opens his eyes as Perez misplaced a pass, however he is smiling as he knows what REALLY happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9023 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 I agree with that, he's not doing loads wrong but he isn't doing much right in that position so it's not really hampering the team overly. As you've alluded to it's a minor complaint in an excellent season which I'm fairly sure will be remedied in the summer. Aye, that's where I am. He can play better and needs to either improve his technique, or make quicker decisions. I felt I had to defend him because he'd been singled out for criticism in a 2-0 away win against Leeds United who're pushing for the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34698 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 [emoji38] [emoji38] He closes his eyes as soon as Perez goes out of shot, "I can see it all... clearly... he's pulling the centre back off Gayle... ohh... haha ohh... wow... now he's.... he's going the other way and pulling the other centre back away... he's unbalancing them leaving the space clear for Gayle" he then slowly opens his eyes as Perez misplaced a pass, however he is smiling as he knows what REALLY happened.[emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9023 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 You calculating Perez's off screen runs. Pretty much, although he has a better beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12462 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Aye, that's where I am. He can play better and needs to either improve his technique, or make quicker decisions. I felt I had to defend him because he'd been singled out for criticism in a 2-0 away win against Leeds United who're pushing for the play-offs. I just think it's a case of the league not really suiting him, Ithink he'll be more effective next season. The Leeds game was perhaps among his poorest games for us imo but as AH said at least he was grafting. We'll never see him dominating the league as some of us thought he would but he's still a class player and will be more impactful next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9023 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 I just think it's a case of the league not really suiting him, Ithink he'll be more effective next season. The Leeds game was perhaps among his poorest games for us imo but as AH said at least he was grafting. We'll never see him dominating the league as some of us thought he would but he's still a class player and will be more impactful next season. Why do you think that is? The physicality? the pace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12462 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Not sure tbh, I don't think it helps that teams clearly play deeper against us giving him less space to operate but I also think players are allowed to get closer to him as the refs are a bit more lax on grabbing and shoving. It's an odd one really as like I say I'd heard it said about Alli and Jenas but wasn't really sure I believed it but Perez looked better in the PL imo, I don't know whether it's the above or if he thinks he should be able to do more and dribble past more players at this level but it's just not happening for him to the level I thought it would. I'm not saying he has been shite or anything mind just going off his ability in the division above I expected him to shine more than he has, we've only seen brief glimpses of quality like his volleyed goal. Edited November 22, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Isn't the PL known for physicality and pace...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9023 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Isn't the PL known for physicality and pace...? Usually when compared to the other top leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9023 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Not sure tbh, I don't think it helps that teams clearly play deeper against us giving him less space to operate but I also think players are allowed to get closer to him as the refs are a bit more lax on grabbing and shoving. It's an odd one really as like I say I'd heard it said about Alli and Jenas but wasn't really sure I believed it but Perez looked better in the PL imo, I don't know whether it's the above or if he thinks he should be able to do more and dribble past more players at this level but it's just not happening for him to the level I thought it would. I'm not saying he has been shite or anything mind just going off his ability in the division above I expected him to shine more than he has, we've only seen brief glimpses of quality like his volleyed goal. I also think he benefits from playing with Mitro more so than with Gayle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12462 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I also think he benefits from playing with Mitro more so than with Gayle. Aye that could be a big part of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Usually when compared to the other top leagues. Fair point I suppose. Is the Championship a pacier league though? I could see it being more physical... not sure about pacier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9023 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Fair point I suppose. Is the Championship a pacier league though? I could see it being more physical... not sure about pacier... Maybe that's the problem? maybe Perez is better when he's working at a faster pace, operating on instincts? The goals that stick in the mind are snap volleys or first time takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26514 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Yes, the problem is that he has TOO MUCH time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9023 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Yes, the problem is that he has TOO MUCH time. Thanks for this input Commodore Sarcasmo, but was that not a common criticism of Cisse and other "instinctive strikers"? Oh, wait, yes it fucking was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12462 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) How The Fish's day went after dealing with the HATERS in this thread: (don't watch with the sound up at work ) Edited November 22, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27029 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Fish understands tactics, fish loves tactics, nobody loves tactics more than fish.I love them more than fish. Wait, did you say tictacs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27029 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You calculating Perez's off screen runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27029 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 :lol: He closes his eyes as soon as Perez goes out of shot, "I can see it all... clearly... he's pulling the centre back off Gayle... ohh... haha ohh... wow... now he's.... he's going the other way and pulling the other centre back away... he's unbalancing them leaving the space clear for Gayle" he then slowly opens his eyes as Perez misplaced a pass, however he is smiling as he knows what REALLY happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12770 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Not having Perez looking better in a league where his lack of pace might get shown up even more tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I just think it's a case of the league not really suiting him, Ithink he'll be more effective next season. The Leeds game was perhaps among his poorest games for us imo but as AH said at least he was grafting. We'll never see him dominating the league as some of us thought he would but he's still a class player and will be more impactful next season. Tbh I think he's had much worse games for us this season than Saturday. It's just a shame that it's not working for him at the moment because he's clearly a talented player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You could say the championship is more frenetic that pacier maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 For me (disclaimer I can only see games on the TV) Perez seems to be rushing his passes to avoid the inevitable afters that seem to happen and go unpunished in the championship. Remember first couple of games he seemed to be rolling around like a tart when it happened and people were complaining he needed to harden up to survive at this level, well get rid of the ball quicker and it doesn't become an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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