trooper 940 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Lower apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 This isn't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 44 minutes ago, Anorthernsoul said: Sources, leaks, sports hacks. Fucking hell some people are so full of shit it is unreal don’t shoot the messenger! i did speak to a colleague who used to cover sport about it. I’m just relaying his theory but he does still have sources in that world. Whether he’s right or not remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The Times also say that their sources claim the Staveley offer is ‘take it or leave it’ and with the two sides seemingly so far apart, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, trooper said: Mark Douglas ... Right, I'm on the morning blog. Come and join me... Reports claim #nufc bid is "take it or leave it" Straight out of the Ashley playbook if that’s the case. Playing the fat cunt at his own game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Just guessing here but i wonder if Stavley has told him to sod off about repaying the loan to him as he's probably had more than that back in free advertising. As i say it's just a guess Edited November 21, 2017 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, trooper said: Just guessing here but i wonder if Stavley has told him to sod off about repayingvthe loan to him as he's probably had more than that back in free advertising. As i say it's just a guess The proposed bid appears to cover original value plus loan though. Also, there's no way in hell he would accept that. There's no way in hell he would accept any of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3206 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Madbobitis seems to have struck Toontastic hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Its really a case of brinkmanship then Edited November 21, 2017 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The reality is a genuine opening bid from a credible buyer is highly unlikely to be a take it or leave it offer. So yes, it’s almost certainly brinksmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26414 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Nonsense, here's the latest from the man with his finger on the pulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16703 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Oh well there was some excitment whilst the dreams lasted. Back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't mind know what the bid was to make Ashley furious. i wonder how far away from £300 million it was Edited November 21, 2017 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: The reality is a genuine opening bid from a credible buyer is highly unlikely to be a take it or leave it offer. So yes, it’s almost certainly brinksmanship. That's like going all in right at the start though. If he calls her bluff and she goes back with another offer, why won't he just think he can do it again and get an even higher one third time around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rayvin said: That's like going all in right at the start though. If he calls her bluff and she goes back with another offer, why won't he just think he can do it again and get an even higher one third time around? We all know he's a gambler the take it or leave might well be genuine & there mightbbe no other offer. We're all in the brown stuff then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8998 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: That's like going all in right at the start though. If he calls her bluff and she goes back with another offer, why won't he just think he can do it again and get an even higher one third time around? No it's not. You're assuming the reports that it's a "take it or leave it" offer are legit, when really, we have no proof of that. What's most likely is that this £300m official bid is the opening salvo. He might want £400m but that is ludicrously high. PCP are looking closer to £300m, which is still a good price for us. There'll be a back and forth and the final price will be somewhere between the two, if it happens. Both parties are apparently open to flexibility in terms of payment structure, so making your first bid a "take it or leave it" offer would be a bit fucking counterintuitive, wouldn't it? Newcastle's stock will never be higher without significant investment, and if Ashley wants to get a decent amount for us, now's the time to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8998 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, trooper said: We all know he's a gambler the take it or leave might well be genuine & there mightbbe no other offer. We're all in the brown stuff then Fucking Hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Suicide watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: No it's not. You're assuming the reports that it's a "take it or leave it" offer are legit, when really, we have no proof of that. What's most likely is that this £300m official bid is the opening salvo. He might want £400m but that is ludicrously high. PCP are looking closer to £300m, which is still a good price for us. There'll be a back and forth and the final price will be somewhere between the two, if it happens. Both parties are apparently open to flexibility in terms of payment structure, so making your first bid a "take it or leave it" offer would be a bit fucking counterintuitive, wouldn't it? Newcastle's stock will never be higher without significant investment, and if Ashley wants to get a decent amount for us, now's the time to sell. True, if the reports are false, then fine. But the rest of your post appears to back up the claim that your first line rejects. I agree with you, if you intend the negotiation to keep going then making a take it or leave it offer right off the bat is stupid. That was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8998 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: True, if the reports are false, then fine. But the rest of your post appears to back up the claim that your first line rejects. I agree with you, if you intend the negotiation to keep going then making a take it or leave it offer right off the bat is stupid. That was my point. Aye, but rather than the stupidity of the rumoured move giving you pause to doubt the stupid move has been made at all, you react to the rumoured stupid move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: Aye, but rather than the stupidity of the rumoured move giving you pause to doubt the stupid move has been made at all, you react to the rumoured stupid move. Um... no... I said it would be a stupid move, same as you. So if I'm 'reacting to it', then you've done the same thing since our position is...the same! The only mitigation on that point is that I consider that the low offer would actually make sense if it was a take it or leave it kind of deal. If it's not, then I would just consider it derisory if I were Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12460 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 We don’t even know what the actual amount of the bid is, yet people are not only pissing their kegs about that but now about some “take it or leave it” claim and Ashley being furious a higher amount than was offered was leaked. All from news agencies that only just found out about a week old bid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Ashley will of course be fuming that we the fans know about the offer i'd imagine SJP will have a strange atmosphere on saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Howay said: We don’t even know what the actual amount of the bid is, yet people are not only pissing their kegs about that but now about some “take it or leave it” claim and Ashley being furious a higher amount than was offered was leaked. All from news agencies that only just found out about a week old bid. I'm not remotely concerned tbh, because I firmly believe this won't happen Having said that, what's the harm in a little speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12460 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: I'm not remotely concerned tbh, because I firmly believe this won't happen Having said that, what's the harm in a little speculation? Interesting that you felt it was aimed at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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