Joe Willock

[PaddockLad 20230]

AM NOT COMPARING WILLOCK TO CRUYFF!!  

 

but the great man would’ve been 76 today… I think he’d have enjoyed our display on Sunday

 

 

 

[Alex 38413]

  On 25/04/2023 at 16:03, PaddockLad said:

AM NOT COMPARING WILLOCK TO CRUYFF!!  

 

but the great man would’ve been 76 today… I think he’d have enjoyed our display on Sunday

 

 

 

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He’s on about the current Sunderland team 👍🏻

[Alex 38413]

I think it was in David Winner’s Brilliant Orange where’s he on about Cruyff. He said Cruyff had so much time to think about how the game should be played because when he was 18, he could already do everything 

[PaddockLad 20230]

  On 25/04/2023 at 16:08, Alex said:

I think it was in David Winner’s Brilliant Orange where’s he on about Cruyff. He said Cruyff had so much time to think about how the game should be played because when he was 18, he could already do everything 

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Criminally forgotten nowadays in the pantheon of all time greats, along with Pele. Ronaldo and Messi didn’t help invent a new way of playing the game. Johan Cruyff did and Barca (& now Man City) are influenced by it to this day. He was my dads favourite player. I’ve just sent my battered copy of Brilliant Orange to a charity shop…think I’ll get it on audio book.. David Wimner is always up for a chat on twitter too, very nice fella 👍

[Alex 38413]

  On 25/04/2023 at 16:14, PaddockLad said:

Criminally forgotten nowadays in the pantheon of all time greats, along with Pele. Ronaldo and Messi didn’t help invent a new way of playing the game. Johan Cruyff did and Barca (& now Man City) are influenced by it to this day. He was my dads favourite player. I’ve just sent my battered copy of Brilliant Orange to a charity shop…think I’ll get it on audio book.. David Wimner is always up for a chat on twitter too, very nice fella 👍

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When Cruyff passed away I was talking to Tooj when we were out for a few jars. He said (and it’s hard to disagree) that no one had more influence on the modern game than Cruyff. When you think about the way he played the game, his time coaching/managing teams, as a commentator, philosopher on the game, as an administrator, etc….

[RobinRobin 13249]

  On 25/04/2023 at 16:18, Alex said:

When Cruyff passed away I was talking to Tooj when we were out for a few jars. He said (and it’s hard to disagree) that no one had more influence on the modern game than Cruyff. When you think about the way he played the game, his time coaching/managing teams, as a commentator, philosopher on the game, as an administrator, etc….

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Is he the only player with a move named after him? 

[wykikitoon 24473]

  On 25/04/2023 at 16:18, Alex said:

When Cruyff passed away I was talking to Tooj when we were out for a few jars. He said (and it’s hard to disagree) that no one had more influence on the modern game than Cruyff. When you think about the way he played the game, his time coaching/managing teams, as a commentator, philosopher on the game, as an administrator, etc….

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You still in touch with Tooj?  That video on Cruyff he made was great from what I remember.  Well, I think it was his!

[Meenzer 17002]

  On 26/04/2023 at 02:45, RobinRobin said:

Is he the only player with a move named after him? 

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Panenka!

[OTF 8998]

  On 26/04/2023 at 02:45, RobinRobin said:

Is he the only player with a move named after him? 

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 The Steven Taylor; it's a complex one, so you don't see it as often as something as basic as the Cruyff turn.

 

 

[Alex 38413]

  On 26/04/2023 at 06:10, wykikitoon said:

You still in touch with Tooj?  That video on Cruyff he made was great from what I remember.  Well, I think it was his!

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Yeah. I don’t get out much these days tbh But we probably catch up and have a few bevvies every couple of months 

[Alex 38413]

  On 26/04/2023 at 02:45, RobinRobin said:

Is he the only player with a move named after him? 

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No, but easily the most famous 

[The Fish 11646]

  On 26/04/2023 at 02:45, RobinRobin said:

Is he the only player with a move named after him? 

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A 'Murphy' - Hitting the post when one on one was submitted to the naming committee, but recent events have made them reconsider it. 

[Alex 38413]

  On 26/04/2023 at 08:18, The Fish said:

A 'Murphy' - Hitting the post when one on one was submitted to the naming committee, but recent events have made them reconsider it. 

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Now named after the move where you kick the ball away when pretending to pick it up 

[RobinRobin 13249]

The Lascelles which involves getting booked without getting on the pitch? 

[ewerk 34964]

Joe Willock, Joelinton, ASM, Callum Wilson. That Steve Bruce fella really did have an eye for a good player*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*As long as he's nowhere near the coaching of them.

[Monkeys Fist 47206]

Good to hear him speaking so positively about the club and the city. 
 

You hear players say stuff like that all the time, but given his honesty about his initial problems, you get the sense he’s not just blowing smoke up our arses. 
 

Good lad. 
 

( I don’t know if he’s from a nice family )

[Alex 38413]

  On 12/05/2023 at 12:07, ewerk said:

Joe Willock, Joelinton, ASM, Callum Wilson. That Steve Bruce fella really did have an eye for a good player*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*As long as he's nowhere near the coaching of them.

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Or looking after their wellbeing, etc. it’s fucking mental how much some clubs neglect that sort of thing when you consider how valuable players are as assets and how much it can impact on their play etc. It comes as absolutely no surprise given the previous manager / regime that Willock wasn’t supported though (reading between the lines) 

[RobinRobin 13249]

  On 12/05/2023 at 12:07, ewerk said:

Joe Willock, Joelinton, ASM, Callum Wilson. That Steve Bruce fella really did have an eye for a good player*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*As long as he's nowhere near the coaching of them.

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Or actually choosing them in the first place (apart from Wilson)

[Kid Dynamite 8139]

I remember thinking it was a bit weird that he bought a house out in the sticks when he moved up here. Bliss if you're a 40 year old who hates people. Probably a bit isolating if you're 23, live on your own and finish work at 1pm every day.

Edited May 13, 2023 by Kid Dynamite

[The Fish 11646]

Kind of expect Howe and the coaches to encourage more team bonding shit away from the training ground. 

 

Didn't Pardew's teams use to have barbecues and that? 

[Monkeys Fist 47206]

  On 15/05/2023 at 13:48, The Fish said:

Didn't Pardew's teams use to have barbecues and that? 

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Aye, but Eddie isn’t trying to bang their lasses, soooo…

[The Fish 11646]

  On 15/05/2023 at 13:50, Monkeys Fist said:

Aye, but Eddie isn’t trying to bang their lasses, soooo…

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Mad Dog however,

[Dr Gloom 24671]

 

[v.old 76]

  On 06/06/2023 at 09:25, Dr Gloom said:

 

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I mean this is brilliant. So many moments of really high quality. Under appreciated by some

[The Fish 11646]

The lad has a higher ceiling than I thought, it definitely helps that he's playing with much, much better players now. 

 

It's his pace on the ball that's surprised me most, usually best shown when he's pushed wide left. Can't think many players who've left Kyle Walker in their wake.